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Old 09-08-2009, 08:13 AM
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Thats the best way to F-up a dog right there
best way to fix a dog too. IF you know how to use one.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:23 AM
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best way to fix a dog too. IF you know how to use one.
I have to disagree somewhat. E-Collars are great training tools in the right hands. They should not be used to "fix a dog". They are used to reinforce KNOWN commands. If you are not 100% positive that a dog understands a command, then the collar is totally out of the question for correction for that command.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:48 AM
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I have to disagree somewhat. E-Collars are great training tools in the right hands. They should not be used to "fix a dog". They are used to reinforce KNOWN commands. If you are not 100% positive that a dog understands a command, then the collar is totally out of the question for correction for that command.
Teach then Reinforce with the tools of the trade, ie; pinch collar, stick, lead, or E-collar. Hey Charlie, maybe we need to be the dog training Mods on this site????
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:28 AM
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Teach then Reinforce with the tools of the trade, ie; pinch collar, stick, lead, or E-collar. Hey Charlie, maybe we need to be the dog training Mods on this site????
Maybe, if there is such a thing. I really have been out of the training loop for a while but I still remember a few things. It really annoys me when people give others looking for advice information like what's been stated above.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:50 AM
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I have to disagree somewhat. E-Collars are great training tools in the right hands. They should not be used to "fix a dog". They are used to reinforce KNOWN commands. If you are not 100% positive that a dog understands a command, then the collar is totally out of the question for correction for that command.

Yup, dis guy knows what he talking about. You cannot teach a dog anything with a shock collar.
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:38 AM
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Most people i see that are having problems with their dog just dont give the dog enuff patience and try other tools that just mess the dog up. They think a dog gonna learn stuff way to fast and they just get frustrated with them. Traing a dog takes a lot of time and patience and some people just cant handle it IMO.
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Old 09-09-2009, 11:01 AM
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Most people i see that are having problems with their dog just dont give the dog enuff patience and try other tools that just mess the dog up. They think a dog gonna learn stuff way to fast and they just get frustrated with them. Traing a dog takes a lot of time and patience and some people just cant handle it IMO.
Thats exactly it. Dogs learn by repettition!
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