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matt1118 09-03-2009 05:03 PM

Question on dog training(my yellow lab)
 
I have an AKC atta boy yellow male 8 months old, he has about 28 field trial champs on *his sire's side and about 26 on his dam's side. He has senior, master, junior hunters all threw out it. He has the brains for the training. I have him doing all the commands I give him. He will sit, down, off(lay down), find it(search) like for a treat in high grass or blood, he is learning heel. BUT..........his name and come is like I am not even talking. Whats ya'll suggestions. :help:

Ducktrickster 09-03-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by matt1118 (Post 42533)
I have an AKC atta boy yellow male 8 months old, he has about 28 field trial champs on *his sire's side and about 26 on his dam's side. He has senior, master, junior hunters all threw out it. He has the brains for the training. I have him doing all the commands I give him. He will sit, down, off(lay down), find it(search) like for a treat in high grass or blood, he is learning heel. BUT..........his name and come is like I am not even talking. Whats ya'll suggestions. :help:

He should have been responding to his name before any other formal training began. It is hard to tell what the problem might be without being around the dog through his training. After sit, come should have been taught. Back up, teach him his name maybe by calling it and giving him a treat or something like that. After you are satisfied that he knows his name, teach come on lead and don't stop until he comes imediately every time called. These are only suggestions as I have never had either of these problems. Good luck.

Deerfarmer 09-04-2009 10:13 AM

Vitamin Supplement
 
I think he just needs some extra vitamins. Maybe Vitamin "38" LMAO

Jay 09-04-2009 11:55 AM

You need to remember he is a pup. Take it slow and be patient.

Cajun Elite 09-04-2009 12:29 PM

Shock coller you can teach him to do backflips

Jay 09-04-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajun Elite (Post 43080)
Shock coller you can teach him to do backflips

Thats the best way to F-up a dog right there:shaking:

bay_slayer 09-04-2009 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajun Elite (Post 43080)
Shock coller you can teach him to do backflips

How would that work on my wife?????:help:

matt1118 09-04-2009 03:06 PM

Thats what my cousin told me to Jay, he is a k9 officer and he said to chill he is a puppy. Also I know alot of people that have used the shock collar and they worked on there dog. Oh and Ducktricker, he knows his name and what come means but when people are around or another dog around its like he forgets. But when its me and him and nothing around he is fine.

matt1118 09-04-2009 03:08 PM

Deerfarmer you aint right. But I do know a certain poodle that it would be fun to watch eat a 7 mag bullet.

Ducktrickster 09-04-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by matt1118 (Post 43100)
Thats what my cousin told me to Jay, he is a k9 officer and he said to chill he is a puppy. Also I know alot of people that have used the shock collar and they worked on there dog. Oh and Ducktricker, he knows his name and what come means but when people are around or another dog around its like he forgets. But when its me and him and nothing around he is fine.

Train him on the commands on lead with distractions. Get the kids or friend out in the yard and teach him that he must listen to known commands regardless of the situation. The worst thing you can do is to keep trying to get him to come in these situations without having him on a leash or rope. Basically you are teaching him that he only should come when he feels like it.


Shock coller you can teach him to do backflips Spoken like a man who has never used a collar or he forgot this---->:*****: Tacky either way.

matt1118 09-04-2009 04:05 PM

yea you are right. I am going to keep trying

Thanks

Deerfarmer 09-06-2009 09:29 PM

7 MM Poodle
 
Yea you right and maybe a weiner dog will be standing behind it. LOL

matt1118 09-07-2009 10:28 AM

hell yeah. But there would be some very upset women on the hill.

JLDAK318 09-08-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay (Post 43082)
Thats the best way to F-up a dog right there:shaking:

best way to fix a dog too. ;) IF you know how to use one.

Ducktrickster 09-08-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JLDAK318 (Post 44263)
best way to fix a dog too. ;) IF you know how to use one.

I have to disagree somewhat. E-Collars are great training tools in the right hands. They should not be used to "fix a dog". They are used to reinforce KNOWN commands. If you are not 100% positive that a dog understands a command, then the collar is totally out of the question for correction for that command.

Raymond 09-08-2009 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 44283)
I have to disagree somewhat. E-Collars are great training tools in the right hands. They should not be used to "fix a dog". They are used to reinforce KNOWN commands. If you are not 100% positive that a dog understands a command, then the collar is totally out of the question for correction for that command.

Teach then Reinforce with the tools of the trade, ie; pinch collar, stick, lead, or E-collar. Hey Charlie, maybe we need to be the dog training Mods on this site????:cool:

Ducktrickster 09-08-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by R Little (Post 44321)
Teach then Reinforce with the tools of the trade, ie; pinch collar, stick, lead, or E-collar. Hey Charlie, maybe we need to be the dog training Mods on this site????:cool:

Maybe, if there is such a thing. I really have been out of the training loop for a while but I still remember a few things. It really annoys me when people give others looking for advice information like what's been stated above.:pissed:

matt1118 09-08-2009 08:00 PM

I tried the pinch collar....thats a NO. He shut down fast, he wouldnt do anything. He is doing good with a regular collar. Just have to get him to come and he will be a very Lab. He knows all other commands but that one. I know, weird huh. HAHA

PocketLab 09-08-2009 08:49 PM

Good Advice
 
Ducktrickster, by far the best most effective adive I have seen anywhere. Don't care how long you've been out of the training scene. The principles don't change.

Feesherman 09-09-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducktrickster (Post 44283)
I have to disagree somewhat. E-Collars are great training tools in the right hands. They should not be used to "fix a dog". They are used to reinforce KNOWN commands. If you are not 100% positive that a dog understands a command, then the collar is totally out of the question for correction for that command.


Yup, dis guy knows what he talking about. You cannot teach a dog anything with a shock collar.


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