Spraying duck marsh

[Big pond]

Does anyone know what is the best time of the year to spray and what to use I need to kill sawgrass and cattail and cane

[T-TOP]

I think its spring... We have some spraying in our marsh scheduled. Have no idea what poison they are using though.

[T-TOP]

Can try and find out though.

[flounder_smacker]

sawgrass is a pain to kill. we sprayed one of our ponds that is getting closed in 3 times last summer. it killed the grass but the roots stayed alive on the ones that was submerged. we even burned the dead portion. i cant remember what we sprayed i can find out tomorrow for you. the chemical we used didn't kill the vegetation in the pond.

[Big pond]

Thanks for the posts that is the problem I have it kills it then it comes back stronger by the fall I have tried 24d , roundup and aquacide pellets I ordered off the Internet but every year I lose more pond

[lilrab1989]

2-4-d an round up is the best

[meaux fishing]

pm duckbutter. He has knowledge in the world of aquatic plants

[Top Dawg]

I think it would take a nuclear war to kill cat tail !

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by meaux fishing

pm duckbutter. He has knowledge in the world of aquatic plants

PM Smalls

I don't want to give out information on how to kill native plants. Smalls works on trying to establish these plants in the marsh, it would kill him

All those plants have extensive root systems, and they have evolved with fire, so fire would just make em happy. Most of the chemicals that you would use to actually kill the plants would need you to be a certified pesticide applicator to buy. Maybe just wait until duck season gets a little closer and use a weedeater with a brush attachment to knock down an area for the ducks to land.

[Roy123]

2-4 d and roundup. We normally spray multiple times a year if we can. Late april through may is a good time to start. And one more time around teal season. Sometimes its a loosing battle. Makes rice field hunting more and more appealing. Each year the cattails are worse, along with everything else that grows out there. The only thing that can clean out a marsh is a hurricane.

[Raymond]

Best to fly application on and it isn't cheap, I think it's $350/gal. I can put in touch with someone that can do it, pm me and I'll forward his #. Ask Casey what kind of damage it did to the cats in that marsh.

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Best to fly application on and it isn't cheap, I think it's $350/gal. I can put in touch with someone that can do it, pm me and I'll forward his #. Ask Casey what kind of damage it did to the cats in that marsh.

X2, expensive but it works.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Best to fly application on and it isn't cheap, I think it's $350/gal. I can put in touch with someone that can do it, pm me and I'll forward his #. Ask Casey what kind of damage it did to the cats in that marsh.

Have you looked at the marsh this year? Curious as to if it killed them completely or just 'topkilled' them

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Have you looked at the marsh this year? Curious as to if it killed them completely or just 'topkilled' them

I have not been back there since duck season but I will be going soon.

[Raymond]

It kills the veg down to roots, and should last 3-4 yrs. aquatic spec in Abbéville said best to spray late spring to kill first blooms.

[Big pond]

Thanks I might be interested but I hunt on Miami property and will have to check with them first

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Raymond

It kills the veg down to roots, and should last 3-4 yrs. aquatic spec in Abbéville said best to spray late spring to kill first blooms.

Sounds like Triclopyr (Arsenal). That has a good bit of soil activity and a long half-life so it stays in the soil a good while. It will kill for sure But, it keeps on killing and kills the desirables plants also. If you want a hole, that will sure open up a hole Not against herbicides by any means, I try and kill every tallowtree there is.

BigPond, I don't know about Miami Corp, but I am curious as to if they would allow herbicide spraying. If you find out, please let us know. Cattails and sawgrass are not preferred duck forage, but what they do provide is cover and a source of invertebrates. The late season is when this may be crucial as ducks are getting as much protein as they can getting ready to head back and make more duckies. You have probably witnessed late season ducks land in the thickest cover they can find.

You could prevent cattails if you had a way of controlling the water on your place. A drawdown would keep the cattails at bay and let the other desirables sprout.

Your cheapest bet may just be to get out there with a weedeater and open up a hole right before teal season and then again before big duck season and/or get a mudboat or airboat in there to keep it down.

Good luck, keep us informed

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Sounds like Triclopyr (Arsenal). That has a good bit of soil activity and a long half-life so it stays in the soil a good while. It will kill for sure But, it keeps on killing and kills the desirables plants also. If you want a hole, that will sure open up a hole Not against herbicides by any means, I try and kill every tallowtree there is.

BigPond, I don't know about Miami Corp, but I am curious as to if they would allow herbicide spraying. If you find out, please let us know. Cattails and sawgrass are not preferred duck forage, but what they do provide is cover and a source of invertebrates. The late season is when this may be crucial as ducks are getting as much protein as they can getting ready to head back and make more duckies. You have probably witnessed late season ducks land in the thickest cover they can find.

You could prevent cattails if you had a way of controlling the water on your place. A drawdown would keep the cattails at bay and let the other desirables sprout.

Your cheapest bet may just be to get out there with a weedeater and open up a hole right before teal season and then again before big duck season and/or get a mudboat or airboat in there to keep it down.

Good luck, keep us informed

Miami Corp is good with it for sure but doubt they would recommend an airboat to make holes. Only Little Pecan has the ability to draw down their true marsh $$$$$$$$$. Marsh lessees are labor and financially intensive, animals and the good ones are worth the fight but its an annual fight.

[Big pond]

This is in the burns and most everywhere there is growing over less water every year and the hurricanes made it worse before Rita and Ike u only had to worry about lily pads the hurricanes brought the cane and cat tails

[Duck Butter]

ETA: I meant to say Imazapyr not Triclopyr in my previous post