Calcasieu Lake Destruction

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by swamp snorkler

Sister Lake and Lake Mechant are farmed for oysters year round. No one has a problem catching specks there.

Fact Check:

Sister Lake is closed this season, and the Lake Mechant season did not begin until Sept.

The following areas shall remain closed for the 2016/2017 oyster season:

? The area east of the Mississippi River and south of a line extending east from the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet at latitude 29 degrees 42 minutes 56.74 seconds N latitude, excluding the American Bay area listed above

? The Bay Gardene and Sister Lake Public Oyster Seed Reservations

The following opening dates were set for the upcoming oyster season (see maps above):


? Wednesday, September 7, 2016 - Bay Junop Public Oyster Seed Reservation, Lake Mechant Public Oyster Seed Grounds, and Vermilion/East and West Cote Blanche/Atchafalaya Bay Public Oyster Seed Grounds will open at one-half hour before sunrise. No harvest of oysters for market sales is allowed on any public oyster area prior to the second Monday in October. Therefore, any and all vessels harvesting on the open public oyster seed grounds between September 7, 2016 and October 9, 2016, both dates inclusive, shall be harvesting seed oysters for bedding purposes only and shall not have sacks or other containers typically used to hold oysters on board the harvest vessel.

You might check the regs before posting such ignorant statements.

See: http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/fishing...oyster-seasons

[swamp snorkler]

Originally Posted by swamp snorkler

Sister Lake and Lake Mechant are farmed for oysters year round. No one has a problem catching specks there.

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Fact Check:

Sister Lake is closed this season, and the Lake Mechant season did not begin until Sept.

The following areas shall remain closed for the 2016/2017 oyster season:

? The area east of the Mississippi River and south of a line extending east from the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet at latitude 29 degrees 42 minutes 56.74 seconds N latitude, excluding the American Bay area listed above

? The Bay Gardene and Sister Lake Public Oyster Seed Reservations

The following opening dates were set for the upcoming oyster season (see maps above):


? Wednesday, September 7, 2016 - Bay Junop Public Oyster Seed Reservation, Lake Mechant Public Oyster Seed Grounds, and Vermilion/East and West Cote Blanche/Atchafalaya Bay Public Oyster Seed Grounds will open at one-half hour before sunrise. No harvest of oysters for market sales is allowed on any public oyster area prior to the second Monday in October. Therefore, any and all vessels harvesting on the open public oyster seed grounds between September 7, 2016 and October 9, 2016, both dates inclusive, shall be harvesting seed oysters for bedding purposes only and shall not have sacks or other containers typically used to hold oysters on board the harvest vessel.

You might check the regs before posting such ignorant statements.

See: http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/fishing...oyster-seasons

I said Farmed, not harvested. There's a difference. Also, that's public beds. They have private leased beds that get worked over too.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by swamp snorkler

I said Farmed, not harvested. There's a difference. Also, that's public beds. They have private leased beds that get worked over too.

So you are arguing that the farming of a very small fraction of the area in two small bodies of water makes it scientifically sound to rape most of the area in Calcasieu Lake?

I didn't think anyone could possibly be that stupid.

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

So you are arguing that the farming of a very small fraction of the area in two small bodies of water makes it scientifically sound to rape most of the area in Calcasieu Lake?

I didn't think anyone could possibly be that stupid.

No one has a problem catching fish at calcasieu either. It's faux outrage in order to push an agenda to ban oystering

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

No one has a problem catching fish at calcasieu either. It's faux outrage in order to push an agenda to ban oystering

Who has mentioned banning oystering in Calcasieu Lake?

The consensus here is that it should be limited to tonging, and it should only be allowed at sustainable levels.

The claim that folks here are advocating a ban on oystering is a lie, by a liar, who just keeps lying.

[DaPointIsDaBomb]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Who has mentioned banning oystering in Calcasieu Lake?

The consensus here is that it should be limited to tonging, and it should only be allowed at sustainable levels.

The claim that folks here are advocating a ban on oystering is a lie, by a liar, who just keeps lying.

Y'all hands don't know nothing about oystering in the lake in specific areas. They do surveys in the areas beforehand. They don't go to their crystal ball and decide which area to open up. There are also four cultch plants on calcasieu lake

Tong or dredge doesn't matter, the same amount of oysters are coming back to the dock at the end of the season. Dredging gets it over with quicker.

[swamp snorkler]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

Y'all hands don't know nothing about oystering in the lake in specific areas. They do surveys in the areas beforehand. They don't go to their crystal ball and decide which area to open up. There are also four cultch plants on calcasieu lake

Tong or dredge doesn't matter, the same amount of oysters are coming back to the dock at the end of the season. Dredging gets it over with quicker.

Agree, however dredging is more destructive.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb

Y'all hands don't know nothing about oystering in the lake in specific areas. They do surveys in the areas beforehand. They don't go to their crystal ball and decide which area to open up. There are also four cultch plants on calcasieu lake

Tong or dredge doesn't matter, the same amount of oysters are coming back to the dock at the end of the season. Dredging gets it over with quicker.

Is it that you cannot read, that you choose not to, or that you simply deceitfully ignore what you have read?

I wrote:

[Your] statement ignores the plain fact that the ecosystem benefits of oyster reefs are not only related to the biomass of living oysters, but are also strongly related to the physical structure of oyster reefs providing valuable habitat for benthic invertebrates.

Studies have shown that tonging for oysters preserves the reef structure and the habitat benefits nearly as well as not harvesting the oysters at all. In contrast dredging destroys the reefs and results in most of the calcified material getting buried in the muck and mud resulting in a much less dynamic benthic ecosystem. Further, all the silt stirred up negatively impacts light penetration and photosynthesis.

It is much better to think about the ecosystem in terms of the food web. Everything about harvesting with tongs is better for the food web than dredging.