Cajun Navy - Training, Permits, License and Fees

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by jchief

You guys don't get it. Any idea how many went out there with an ice chest of beer? How about 4 "buddies" in a 15' boay to rescue people? How about LDWF having to pull units from rescue to deal with th ones that were drunk or lost?

Granted, they were the minority, but it happened. There has to be some coordination! If you just drop and go, you may be going where the area has already been cleared or if you clear an area, the others who go through there are wasting valuable time.

There has to be some training and coordination.

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Not a shot at you Chief just a thought.
If I'm using my time, my boat and my fuel to come get you out of your flooded house and you have a problem with the beer in my hand just get comfy at home because that's where I'm leaving you. Even drunk neighbors get stuff done faster than a sober government.

[Jcredeur]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Not a shot at you Chief just a thought.

If I'm using my time, my boat and my fuel to come get you out of your flooded house and you have a problem with the beer in my hand just get comfy at home because that's where I'm leaving you. Even drunk neighbors get stuff done faster than a sober government.

Whether it's at my paid department or my volunteer department I want competent people working around me... A level of competence is expected from myself and our crew, I expect it from everyone working around me also. My life could very well be in their hands... You would be surprised at the amount of victims that started out as untrained would be rescuers..


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[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Jcredeur

Whether it's at my paid department or my volunteer department I want competent people working around me... A level of competence is expected from myself and our crew, I expect it from everyone working around me also. My life could very well be in their hands... You would be surprised at the amount of victims that started out as untrained would be rescuers..


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I was a volunteer firefighter. I know all about training. I also know the trapped person doesn't give a damn about training or certifications when they are trapped. The only thing that matters to them at that point is getting out.

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

I was a volunteer firefighter. I know all about training. I also know the trapped person doesn't give a damn about training or certifications when they are trapped. The only thing that matters to them at that point is getting out.

Well said. My hats off to those that spent their own money and gave time to go and help. Did some people go and drink beer, etc. and get in the way I'm sure they did but the majority were there to help. Let's not take what is great about Louisiana and make it like everything else in this country please.

[Jcredeur]

[QUOTE=duckman1911;804794]I was a volunteer firefighter. I know all about training. I also know the trapped person doesn't give a damn about training or certifications when they are trapped. The only thing that matters to them at that point is getting out.[/

True but this is besides the original post.... Let's get back to chain of command and incident organization. Say we have 25 people in an area where we have 5 boats operating... Do we want all five boats going to house to house or duplicating efforts or do we want resources properly allocated and moving through victims in the most efficient manner???


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[ckinchen]

[quote=Jcredeur;804798]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

I was a volunteer firefighter. I know all about training. I also know the trapped person doesn't give a damn about training or certifications when they are trapped. The only thing that matters to them at that point is getting out.[/

True but this is besides the original post.... Let's get back to chain of command and incident organization. Say we have 25 people in an area where we have 5 boats operating... Do we want all five boats going to house to house or duplicating efforts or do we want resources properly allocated and moving through victims in the most efficient manner???


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You are right in what you are saying but I think this was a chaos type of situation and there was no real way to control it. People were literally drowning in the streets, in that situation it's all hands on deck and you get as many hands out there as you possibly can. I'd prefer someone coming in to not spend the 15 minutes checking with "the boss" and just come get me before I run out of air.

[Rat-Red]

[quote=ckinchen;804799]

Originally Posted by Jcredeur

You are right in what you are saying but I think this was a chaos type of situation and there was no real way to control it. People were literally drowning in the streets, in that situation it's all hands on deck and you get as many hands out there as you possibly can. I'd prefer someone coming in to not spend the 15 minutes checking with "the boss" and just come get me before I run out of air.

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[B-Stealth]

Originally Posted by Jcredeur

Whether it's at my paid department or my volunteer department I want competent people working around me... A level of competence is expected from myself and our crew, I expect it from everyone working around me also. My life could very well be in their hands... You would be surprised at the amount of victims that started out as untrained would be rescuers..


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Ok tell me how many people "untrained rescuers" became victims?