Deity debate

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by FF_T_Warren

Believing in God doesn't get you into heaven. Even the demons believe in God. Believing that Jesus is the only way into heaven gets you into heaven. No matter how great of a person you are, your works cannot get you into heaven. God sent his son Jesus to be the atonement for our sins so that we can come to him. Its really that simple. Now on another note, a true believing, confessing that your a sinner and that you can't make it on your own, and turning your life over to him will be evident in your lifestyle. Its a one time decision and a lifetime of worship. Good works wont get you to heaven, but living for Jesus will make you desire to follow him and do works that you never thought possible.

I agree but also not disagree but say I don't know. I believe in God and Jesus Christ. I don't think I have to go to church on Sunday to show that. Some of the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen carried a bible and wore a suit. Some of the best people I have ever met carried a bible and wore overalls. The bible doesn't make the person. The person makes the bible.
I believe someone can give their life to God and never step foot in a church. If you truely believe your gifts in life come from God (true gifts not bday presents) and you repay those gifts by being a good person and being kind to others and honest is that not enough? I know Jesus died on the cross for my sins. He shed his blood to give me eternal life. I try everyday to be a good caring person. I fail but if he lets me wake up tomorrow I'll try again.

[slimbullet]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

I agree but also not disagree but say I don't know. I believe in God and Jesus Christ. I don't think I have to go to church on Sunday to show that. Some of the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen carried a bible and wore a suit. Some of the best people I have ever met carried a bible and wore overalls. The bible doesn't make the person. The person makes the bible.
I believe someone can give their life to God and never step foot in a church. If you truely believe your gifts in life come from God (true gifts not bday presents) and you repay those gifts by being a good person and being kind to others and honest is that not enough? I know Jesus died on the cross for my sins. He shed his blood to give me eternal life. I try everyday to be a good caring person. I fail but if he lets me wake up tomorrow I'll try again.

Your right. Look at the 2 sinners crucified with Jesus. This is a huge lesson. There was a reason for this. While one mocked him through other surrendered and exhibited faith by asking Jesus to remember him in heaven. Jesus responded to his faith and said today you will be with me in paradise. Saul, or their apostle Paul a murder.
But as far as not going to church ect that's where everyday faith comes in. That's the flesh talking. Once you accept Jesus as your savior you get a big help from three holy spirit. And then you will want to do their things pleasing to God. Not by your own power but his. I encourage anyone to read Romans chapter 7.

[slimbullet]

One more thing before I hit the sack. If you live under their law, ie there 10 commandments, you will be judged by God. His judgement handed down will be hellfire every single time. All these 10 commandments do is define who you are, but doesn't do anything to save you from who you are. That's where Jesus comes in. Sadly most churches don't preach this. They stop at their law, defining who man is but don't give them solution, which is the cross of christ