Thoughts on CCA meeting tonight on state of Calcasieu fishery

[fishwater]

I should have kept going west and gone to the camp rather than sit through that. Head cca guy said there was definite data from Mississippi but could not say where is was published. The oyster discussion was the best part imo. I took it that the game wardens just ticket for over fishing, if I get caught over the limit they can take my boat and license but not oystermen?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by fishwater

Head cca guy said there was definite data from Mississippi but could not say where is was published.

The triple tail data from Mississippi has not been published or peer reviewed, thus it was only hear-say from the CCA rep who represented it to LWC. And the data on triple tail was life history data from Mississippi waters. There were no life history data or stock assessments from Louisiana waters at all.

We wrote to LWC pointing out that there is available data on triple tail in Louisiana waters (collected by NOAA and other federal groups) and asking them whether the stock data from Louisiana supported imposing the limits. We received no response, and by all appearances, the data from Louisiana waters was not considered.

This is a great example of CCA claiming that their management positions have scientific support, when they do not.

Would it make sense to manage the Louisiana deer herd based on Mississippi data?

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

The triple tail data from Mississippi has not been published or peer reviewed, thus it was only hear-say from the CCA rep who represented it to LWC. And the data on triple tail was life history data from Mississippi waters. There were no life history data or stock assessments from Louisiana waters at all.

We wrote to LWC pointing out that there is available data on triple tail in Louisiana waters (collected by NOAA and other federal groups) and asking them whether the stock data from Louisiana supported imposing the limits. We received no response, and by all appearances, the data from Louisiana waters was not considered.

This is a great example of CCA claiming that their management positions have scientific support, when they do not.

Would it make sense to manage the Louisiana deer herd based on Mississippi data?

Wish you woulda been there for this. We needed someone more educated on this issue. They didn't like hearing what Nickt87 had to say. He admitted the limit change in 05 was a social issue. The last guy to talk, i don't remember his name, but i didn't like him.