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Old 03-15-2014, 06:02 PM
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I bought a snapper pro from christian at Abbeville snapper excellent mower and dealer check it out before you buy
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Old 03-15-2014, 08:27 PM
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I have owned two Gravelys, and can not be any more satisfied. I never operated others so I cannot comment, other than repeat what was said.

Whatever brand, get welded deck, not stamped manufac!!!!!
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Old 03-15-2014, 08:50 PM
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I work for an outdoor power equipment mfg.
Owned a shop at one time and repaired them, and now been working for a large worldwide OPE mfg for a few years.

We sell to the residential big boxes and commercial dealers.
Badboy is an ok mower made in Arkansas, idler pulley not up to a light commercial grade of other mowers in the price range.
For the money you can get a better commercial unit from a dealer that will service you.
Big problem with Bad Boy from a big box is the same issue we have getting the local dealer to service you.
If you get a Bad Boy buy from a dealer that offers service.
We are bigger so we have more of a dealer network where they don't.
They have pissed off their dealer network, and it is not as big as ours, so service has been an issue on those.

If you spend that much money buy a lot better lines (Gravely, Dixon, Hustler, Cub Cadet Z Series, Exmark, Ferris) from a commercial dealer due to they will back you up with service. Most commercial dealers that are larger have financing programs also if that is an issue.

Different mowers have their place in the market not matter what the what to be shade tree mechanic from idiot ville tells you
I been to the testing facilities, worked with R&D, and most companies but a lot into their testing to idiot proof them, quality of cut, and price point.
But Leroy the shadetree mechanic that know everything about nothing knows more than me LOL!
Each mower has its place but without service none of them are any good due to guess what they all break!

Stamped boxes gives a better cut due to air circulation and really made for subdivision lawn which has its price point & price versus quality
(Husqvarna, MTD (Troy-Bilt, yardmachine, lower end Cub Cadet, Craftsman HOP & MTD makes, John Deere D series, Ariens made by Gravely or Husqvarna)
Yes your green & yellow John Deere D series in Lowes and Home Depot just a low end model to get you to go to their dealer to buy a bigger one down the road, but it has its place. Toro in Home Depot guess what yup low end residential mower nothing wrong with that even with the KW engine it has its place.
Yup, I been to where snapper is made and guess what is it made on the same assembly line as some other brands I mentioned. Yes Massey Ferguson is made at the same plant too oh know this really throws off Leroy the shade tree mechanic!

This is a market that will take care of a lot of people with residential lawns especially if you take care of the mower.

Fabricated box on lower end level will last longer than stamped, but lose the quality of cut.
lower end commercial and light residential boxes.
Massey Ferguson lawn & garden series, snapper upper level,
Huster, Bad Boy, Cub Cadet 54" fabricated Deck, Ariens made by Gravely, Husqvarna series in Lowes & hardware store with no service dept
(This typically is not an issue when you are cutting 2 to 3 acres of field grass)

True Commercial Fabricated box will give you a balance of both, but you are looking toward 8k to 12k for that quality of cut.
Heck I can buy 2 drive shaft light commercial mowers for this.
These are for the pros and going toward diesel engines, water cooled engines, and thicker metal made for longer usage.
Dixion, Ferris, exmark, grasshopper, Cub Cadet Tank and Z, Gravely upper end,

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Old 03-16-2014, 08:15 AM
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I will give everyone advice to get more out of any outdoor power equipment.
1. 80% of returns or service calls are the carb.
- Ethanol is corrosive and within 30 days or less of sitting it will do some damage.
- How to solve this
A. Use a fuel stabilizer like Stabil or your favorite brand
B. Best way when you know you are not going to use the equipment weekly drain the tank and run the carb out of fuel.
C. Fuel solenoid which goes up and down in the carb shuts fuel off and on.
This gets stuck a lot if ethanol sits and it an easy fix.
Please don't get back yard Leroy cutting down your fuel solenoid, and put a fuel line with a fuel shutoff on your unit.
It does work, but if you forget to shut it off you get fuel dripping all over.
Good idea but you run into 1 stupid person that screws this up plus it voids your warranty.
D. Please don't ask me on lower end commercial or residential which motor is better.
Briggs has issues
Kohler is better but they had their run of some bad models not as bad as briggs
Kawasaki has issues also on their low end commercial models not as bad as briggs

Low end rider units (got to make the motors in china to keep the riders under $1,200)
Yup skippy not made to cut 5 acres. They will do it, but it just won't last due to hours this units designed for will be reached quicker.
They guy that has a little yard if he takes care of it these mowers will last due to he will never reach the hours they were built for.

Briggs made in China Not bad have a larger percentage of service than other two below but not huge like people think
(no oil filter in this price range)
Kohler made in China Not bad like others has a small percentage of bad units
( I think they do have oil filters)
Powermore made in China MTD makes not a bad engine for being out 6 years very few complaints.
(surprised me that it does have an oil filter and lasted as long as it has without a lot of issues)
It is made in a plant that Chi***** use to be made which everyone thinks is so great
I put the Chi infront due to it throws people off to what motor was made in this plant before powermore.
I been surprised about this motor also in a low end motor its a pretty good little engine.

Now remember change your oil per mfg's recommendations and filters.
Good fuel and use a stabilizer
Run engine fuel out of the engine if you sit it up.
Change your mower blades or sharpen blades

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Old 03-16-2014, 09:21 AM
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I personally couldn't be given a machine with a Kohler engine, I along with several people I know had to replace these on Dixie Choppers with below 500 hrs and mine only had around 100 hrs due to them blowing head gaskets which cause damage resulting in catastrophic failure.... we have all replaced them with industrial 30+ hp engines for less money and far better warranty.... My choice would be a commercial machine with a Kawasaki engine unless I bought the Kubota then I would have the diesel or possibly their gas engine but I am not sure about the quality of the Kubota gas engine since I haven't used the newer models.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:32 AM
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Boy a lot of misrepresentation here! Bottom line find a dealer that you are comfortable dealing with and runs an honest business. Dealers don't just sell brands they sell themselves. Brands come and go these days because of corporate buyouts and the like. Any local dealership keeps money in the local economy and you can always reach management not somebody in another state. There is a lot of good equipment out there these days but there is also some less desirable. Ask around word of mouth is any dealers best advertisement. And yes follow manufacturers recommendations they have lots at stake and know there equipment better than anyone.
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Old 03-16-2014, 09:34 AM
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Simple answer here. JD D665. 60 inch cut

If you have 6k to spend, it will eat stumps and keep going

Have to go to the JD dealer to get one. Nuf said.
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I had to replace head gasket on my Kohler engine with 500 hrs. I also have a generac engine on my com. mower with 700 hrs that has had no issues at all.
Anybody else have good luck with generac
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Old 03-16-2014, 12:31 PM
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I had to replace head gasket on my Kohler engine with 500 hrs. I also have a generac engine on my com. mower with 700 hrs that has had no issues at all.
Anybody else have good luck with generac
Generac is what's on alot of commercial generators, not saying that's the same motor on the mowers but they are supposed to be good engines
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Old 03-16-2014, 01:28 PM
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I bought a snapper pro from christian at Abbeville snapper excellent mower and dealer check it out before you buy

In my opinion Ed, you can't ask for more down to earth people willing to help you at any cost than Christian & Mr Jake & of course their outstanding service team of experts!


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