Obama health care

[jchief]

Supreme court ruling out.

Check out your news source.

[Raymond]

I can't believe the Supremes voted to allow private industry to require the citizens of the United States to purchase something or be penilized by the federal gov't. Judge Roberts said it passed muster because it is a tax but the citizens were told it wasn't a TAX. Now, you know why the ACA has in it the addition of 15,000 New IRS agents for enforcement.

Mods,Casey, please allow this to stay in the general forum to those who don't keep up with current events might learn more about this travesty.

[southern151]

How do you tax someone who isn't paying taxes anyway?

[ElectricChicken]

Judge Roberts fell on his head! Everyone was worried about Kennedy and look what this guy does! Unbelievable! Our constitution is eroding faster than the marsh in Louisiana! The last front line against the imposition of the federal government is the states and the 10th Amendment. Best pay attention to who we elect in state government along these lines fellows.

["W"]

Poor people have zero money to buy health ins. ... You can't tax them because they don't pay taxes

So what really changes...
O forgot , now we the working class pick up another tax for the lazy and poor and also pick up there Health ins plus ours


So if your working you will adopt a few extra family in 2014 so make sure you find some SS numbers to add them to your taxes

[Super Spook]

This makes me want to

[fun w son]

frinkin! amazing!!!!!!

[CajunSaint]

If I remember correctly won't this become income for us working class? Therefore higher tax bracket.

[eman]

So if i own a small company that right now pays or partial pays for my employees health insurance . I can now get off cheaper by saying screw my employees. Cancel the insurance, put them on the govt dole (which is what this whole thing is meant to do ) and pay the fine of $750 per employee per year .

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by eman

So if i own a small company that right now pays or partial pays for my employees health insurance . I can now get off cheaper by saying screw my employees. Cancel the insurance, put them on the govt dole (which is what this whole thing is meant to do ) and pay the fine of $750 per employee per year .

YEP, 40% of my income is from health insurance. If my clients decide to drop their group health policies, I will effectively be out of business.

[eman]

Originally Posted by Raymond

YEP, 40% of my income is from health insurance. If my clients decide to drop their group health policies, I will effectively be out of business.

Which IMHO is the bottom line of the whole obama health care bill.

[2ndamendment]

Originally Posted by eman

Which IMHO is the bottom line of the whole obama health care bill.

Your opinion is spot on. Government (crooked group) is and has always been afraid of losing power over the people.

[Pole Kat]

REVOLUTION- I'm in

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by Raymond

YEP, 40% of my income is from health insurance. If my clients decide to drop their group health policies, I will effectively be out of business.

Get ready.....

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by eman

So if i own a small company that right now pays or partial pays for my employees health insurance . I can now get off cheaper by saying screw my employees. Cancel the insurance, put them on the govt dole (which is what this whole thing is meant to do ) and pay the fine of $750 per employee per year .

Yep and I wonder what the Company's CPA will advice them to do.

[CajunSaint]

Originally Posted by ckinchen

Yep and I wonder what the Company's CPA will advice them to do.

What would your advice be

[ckinchen]

Originally Posted by CajunSaint

What would your advice be

I won't and can't go on record about this for several reasons. But I will say that I will advice my clients to do what is best for their shareholders and puts the most money in their pockets which is always the advice that I give. Any paid advisor that does not do such is not fulfilling their fiduciary duty to their clients. I also personally believe it will take a significant turn of events for our current president not to be here in four years. This four year term in my opinion will be much harder on the southern states and conservatives than his first four years. I suspect he will use his special executive powers (that does not require a vote from the other branches) to push through very radical ideas with no consequence of having to ever be re-elected again. Buckle up America, it will be a very trying time.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by CajunSaint

What would your advice be

My largest group pays close to $100,000 per year for their employees health insurance coverage. Can't remember what the fine is but lets use $2500.00 per employee x 25 employees = $50,000 reduction, what would you do??? This will effectively push everyone into govt run health care because actuarially, for profit companies cannot operate at a loss but the govt does it everyday!

[Matt G]

Originally Posted by Raymond

My largest group pays close to $100,000 per year for their employees health insurance coverage. Can't remember what the fine is but lets use $2500.00 per employee x 25 employees = $50,000 reduction, what would you do??? This will effectively push everyone into govt run health care because actuarially, for profit companies cannot operate at a loss but the govt does it everyday!

And we all know how well the government run facilities are doing. I mean just look at the VA's.

[Matt G]

Our freedom's just died today. What's next? Tax us for not driving an electric car, converting our houses to solar energy, eating sugar (O wait, some places are already trying that), or owning a firearm!!!! When will this infringement on our rights end? I know basically all politicians are the same, but Republican's are more in line with TRUE Americans (people who contribute to society). Liberals scream that the GOP is for businesses only, but who makes this country work? I know if a "business" didn't give us jobs, then how will we pay taxes? You can't!!! Without "business" there would be no America. Remember that freeloaders! Next time you blame your problems on the business man, remember without him there would be no taxes and no lobster dinner on your LA Purchase card! YOU'RE WELCOME!!!!