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Old 04-25-2012, 12:49 PM
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Just to let you know where i stand, I use my live well for storage. I find using artificial lures far more satisfying in the pursuit of trout than the use of live bait...including dead shrimp on a grub tail.
It seems down here out of VB more than half the fishermen use live bait to fish the wells and platforms. I just don't see the sport in taking a live shrimp or croaker and dangling this in front of a trout. They gonna eat it no matter what the conditions are. I've found in the last coupla years that the live bait movement has moved to the reefs big time. I stopped fishing the rigs because of the proliferation of live bait fishermen; hard to compete next to a boat fishing LB when you're throwing plastic...I just move on to other areas.

I sound like I'm complaining but I have no problem with anyone who chooses to LB fish. I guess w/ the price of fuel and expenses involved with trout fishing that some guys want to stack the odds in their favor the bring home some meat. I've noticed even on BL that some of the guides use live shrimp for their sports, is this the only way you can catch fish at certain times on BL or is this just to hurry and fill a limit?

Should LB be allowed in trout fishing tournaments or artificial only?

Like to hear your thoughts..

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Old 04-25-2012, 12:52 PM
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Just to let you know where i stand, I use my live well for storage. I find using artificial lures far more satisfying is the pursuit of trout than the use of live bait...including dead shrimp on a grub tail.
It seems down here out of VB more than half the fishermen use live bait to fish the wells and platforms. I just don't see the sport in taking a live shrimp or croaker and dangling this in front of a trout. They gonna eat it no matter what the conditions are. I've found in the last coupla years that the live bait movement has moved to the reefs big time. I stopped fishing the rigs because of the proliferation of live bait fishermen; hard to compete next to a boat fishing LB when you're throwing plastic...I just move on to other areas.

I sound like I'm complaining but I have no problem with anyone who chooses to LB fish. I guess w/ the price of fuel and expenses involved with trout fishing that some guys want to stack the odds in their favor the bring home some meat. I've noticed even on BL that some of the guides use live shrimp for their sports, is this the only way you can catch fish at certain times on BL or is this just to hurry and fill a limit?

Should LB be allowed in trout fishing tournaments or artificial only?

Like to hear your thoughts..

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Old 04-25-2012, 01:12 PM
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I have nothing against live or dead bait. My PB 29" Speck was caught on cut bait. There is an art to catching big Specks on cut bait. My great uncle taught me how to prepare and rig the bait.

However, I have converted to mostly arties over the last couple of years. I agree there is something about working the bait to find fish. Feeling the strike. Being more in tune with what’s going on around you. Drinking less beer while fishing. I also do a lot more catch and release.

The only problem I have is my two 14 year old boys. To keep them interested, they have to catch fish. So we do use live or cut bait just so they can catch something. They don’t really care what is on the hook at this point. I have started teaching them about arties, but it’s a slow process.

As far as tournaments, I think that’s up to the sponsor running it. I could see a case for lure only tournaments as more companies try to get their products out into the saltwater community.
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:16 PM
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The only problem I have is my two 14 year old boys. To keep them interested, they have to catch fish. So we do use live or cut bait just so they can catch something. They don’t really care what is on the hook at this point. I have started teaching them about arties, but it’s a slow process.
Well I can tell you this 1st hand........My dad never let us use live or dead bait at all......
I can remember when we was fishing next to a boat and they had live shrimp ripping them end left and right.....I told my dad...We need some live Shrimp...
He said and you tell me what those guys are learning from this fishing trip???



Im glad he never let us use Live bait....Might of wished on some trips we did but now Im thankful we didnt
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:50 PM
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I have nothing against live or dead bait. My PB 29" Speck was caught on cut bait. There is an art to catching big Specks on cut bait. My great uncle taught me how to prepare and rig the bait.

However, I have converted to mostly arties over the last couple of years. I agree there is something about working the bait to find fish. Feeling the strike. Being more in tune with what’s going on around you. Drinking less beer while fishing. I also do a lot more catch and release.

The only problem I have is my two 14 year old boys. To keep them interested, they have to catch fish. So we do use live or cut bait just so they can catch something. They don’t really care what is on the hook at this point. I have started teaching them about arties, but it’s a slow process.

As far as tournaments, I think that’s up to the sponsor running it. I could see a case for lure only tournaments as more companies try to get their products out into the saltwater community.


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Old 04-25-2012, 01:18 PM
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I like using artificail especially topwater nothing like a trout or red smacking a topwater. Way more satisfying.
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:29 PM
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I have two kinds of trips....Fishing with my buddies, artificial ONLY! no exceptions....When taking my family or my Dad (CONVINCED SOMETHING LIVE OR DEAD IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO "OLD SKEWL") I always use live or dead, because I have tough enough time serving as deckhand baiting, re-rigging, rebuilding reels, re-spooling, getting them drinks, etc....that I couldn't imagine the hangups and lost $$$ in my artificial lures...

I feel it is more of a challenge to look at water clarity, light, tidal movement, time of year, stage the fish are in and determining what to use out of the box...ofcourse we have our go-to baits, but to have the discipline to go away from that and adjust, then when you get into them with the change, makes the whole trip...That's the way I see it anyway....Ofcourse if nothing else, we can break out the nikon glasses and spot that Haynie and see what he is throwing!!! A little "LONG DISTANCE POTLICKING!" Commonly refered to as SNIPER LICKING....
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:31 PM
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I have two kinds of trips....Fishing with my buddies, artificial ONLY! no exceptions....When taking my family or my Dad (CONVINCED SOMETHING LIVE OR DEAD IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO "OLD SKEWL") I always use live or dead, because I have tough enough time serving as deckhand baiting, re-rigging, rebuilding reels, re-spooling, getting them drinks, etc....that I couldn't imagine the hangups and lost $$$ in my artificial lures...

I feel it is more of a challenge to look at water clarity, light, tidal movement, time of year, stage the fish are in and determining what to use out of the box...ofcourse we have our go-to baits, but to have the discipline to go away from that and adjust, then when you get into them with the change, makes the whole trip...That's the way I see it anyway....Ofcourse if nothing else, we can break out the nikon glasses and spot that Haynie and see what he is throwing!!! A little "LONG DISTANCE POTLICKING!" Commonly refered to as SNIPER LICKING....

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Old 04-25-2012, 01:34 PM
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You know I'm just messing with you dub.... I've never even fished Big Lake....
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:22 PM
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I love live bait late summer. SOWS!! And oh yea live bait offshore too. And for catfish. And bass like live bait too!!
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:40 PM
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While I'm at it, if you lay on the bow and rest the optics on trolling motor mount, this would be "prone long distance sniper licking" Utilizing the trolling motor as concealment....If you prop up, in a standing position and rest on your T-top risers, this would be considered a "Standing Pilgrim Licking Sniper"....I really need to stop!!! No, I don't have a T-top
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If you think anyone can catch a limit of trout with live bait, come fishing with me. I'll prove you wrong
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If you think anyone can catch a limit of trout with live bait, come fishing with me. I'll prove you wrong
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:07 PM
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You've seen me in action with artificial. It just ain't for me. I'm more worried about catching the fish to eat than the sport of it
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:41 PM
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I know that's right...Been there, done that!
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:45 PM
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My buddies' boss fishes VBay alot and has a camp out there. He drives all the way to Cocodrie with a huge baitwell in the back of his truck and fills it up with prob 1000 croakers and brings em back to VBay where he has a big bait well under his camp. That's crazy!
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:45 PM
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I'm old school........
I fish to catch fish.

And what ever it takes to catch them is what I will use.
I've had days in Grand Isle where artificial was better than live shrimp

Beleive it or not
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:29 PM
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I'm old school........
I fish to catch fish.

And what ever it takes to catch them is what I will use.
I've had days in Grand Isle where artificial was better than live shrimp

Beleive it or not
Yep!
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:09 PM
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I'm old school........
I fish to catch fish.

And what ever it takes to catch them is what I will use.
I've had days in Grand Isle where artificial was better than live shrimp

Beleive it or not
I believe it ,but i more than once have pulled up on a spot where a boat was on one side of a platform catching a few trout on arties and started fishing the other side w/ live shrimp. arties never got another bite.
We fish live shrimp ,get the fish feeding then go to plastics till they slow down then back to shrimp to turn em on again.
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Some like some don't, no wrong or right, just preference.
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