Duck/Goose Decoys

[Shawn Braquet]

If its lacassine your talkin about then i agree, wish they would kee the water right, put a 5 fish limit along with a slot limit then charge for yearly permits. Id pay 100 a year to fish it if they managed it better.

[DUCKGOGETTER]

Originally Posted by deadly d

wish the could but they cant. They get tax money from all over the us and 50 million people dont know nothing about it. Let the right people find out about and you can kiss the fishing good-bye forever, it will be used as it was built for (bird sanctuary) bottom line so enjoy why we can guys

they not gonna stop the fishing in there for sure, cause the tax payers money pays for it and they know if they stop fishing in there or sabine all hell will break lose.

[DUCKGOGETTER]

Originally Posted by deadly d

please dont think that. This is a national wildlife refuge and they can do what they want to. It is federal funding not state funding

like shawn said a man can dream. I remember that place when ron castel was stocking it the fish we used to catch in there, and i'm sure you remember that too. It will never be like that again.

[DUCKGOGETTER]

Originally Posted by deadly d

oh i go alot futher back than that. I would like to know how many big ol bream i pulled out of that place. Had the ol plastic fish stringers and couldnt put another one on there. I have a 6lb2oz bass mounted that i caught out of there in 1975 and back then that was like a 12lb fish now

you absolutely right my dad has atleast 8 fish mounted from there from the 70's that are like 5 pounds and he told me that was a big fish in ther back then. My dad has many old pictures from out there and that place will never look like that again, and the stories he has from out there are unreal. Him and my uncle would stack boats at a landing that some lady had on the bell city drain ditch i can't think of her name would rent with 9.8 mercurys and she wouldn't charge them. Also they would have millers house of sports order them black lizards with white dots on them, cause they would wax they *** on them. I can go on forever about his stories i love hearing them.

[cajunsorc]

Originally Posted by Deadly D

Wish the could but they cant. They get tax money from all over the US and 50 million people dont know nothing about it. Let the right people find out about and you can kiss the fishing good-bye forever, it will be used as it was built for (bird sanctuary) bottom line so enjoy why we can guys

The original stocking of Florida strain largemouth bass took place in 1985 and was paid for by federal funds. These same federal funds are what paid for the "old" boat ramp(1985ish) and also the "new" boat ramps(previous access was through the rollers located on the bell city ditch and the lacassine bayou perimeter levees). These improvements were and have been made to promote the use of the refuge as a fishery. The stockings done by Castille were part of an agreement he had to show that the fisherman were "giving back" to the fishery. So, don't for one second, think that the "Sole" purpose of this impoundment is for ducks...Thats the EXCUSE they use for doing W T F they want to do. If you don't believe me- go back and do a little research on where the funding for the ramps and the original florida strain stocking came from.

[cajunsorc]

Originally Posted by Deadly D

Go way back and see what funds built the refuge and thats where it starts. I would love for it to stay open forever. I am not trying to start a argument but they can do what they want when the want. They are just trying to help the local people and jobs around here

I understand that the original purpose for the refuge was for waterfowl.

However, in 1985 the mission statement for the refuge was changed to include the purpose for use as a fishery.

And regardless; when they start spending TAX PAYERS money on creating, improving, stocking, etc. for a fishery then they don't get to blow smoke up my a$$ about it being "strickly for waterfowl"!!! And until everyone quits swallowing this line of BS that the management is presenting to all of us "uneducated coonasses" (this is what the management thinks we are) and holds someone accountable for not sticking to the Comprehensive Conservation Plan that they released a few years ago (which by the way includes managing the pool for fishing) then the management of the refuge will continue to mismanage the pool and do whatever they feel like doing. And everyone says they want to do something-- but when they were having those public comment meetings during the formulation period for the CCP the same 30-35 of us showed up for each meeting-All that showed them was that Not enough people were interested in what they were doing for them to give a rip!!!

[DUCKGOGETTER]

Originally Posted by cajunsorc

i understand that the original purpose for the refuge was for waterfowl.

However, in 1985 the mission statement for the refuge was changed to include the purpose for use as a fishery.

And regardless; when they start spending tax payers money on creating, improving, stocking, etc. For a fishery then they don't get to blow smoke up my a$$ about it being "strickly for waterfowl"!!! And until everyone quits swallowing this line of bs that the management is presenting to all of us "uneducated coonasses" (this is what the management thinks we are) and holds someone accountable for not sticking to the comprehensive conservation plan that they released a few years ago (which by the way includes managing the pool for fishing) then the management of the refuge will continue to mismanage the pool and do whatever they feel like doing. And everyone says they want to do something-- but when they were having those public comment meetings during the formulation period for the ccp the same 30-35 of us showed up for each meeting-all that showed them was that not enough people were interested in what they were doing for them to give a rip!!!

amen brother preach it!!!! Just like the tax money they used to put them big *** pumps in there that probably have never been cranked. Everybody says they can't pump due to the salinity levels. Well guess what they new the salinity was to high before they wasted the money on them. Where do you find out where those meetings are, cause i'd like to go to the next one?

[cmcnabb]

Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER

amen brother preach it!!!! Just like the tax money they used to put them big *** pumps in there that probably have never been cranked. Everybody says they can't pump due to the salinity levels. Well guess what they new the salinity was to high before they wasted the money on them. Where do you find out where those meetings are, cause i'd like to go to the next one?

I was told by a game warden who works lacassine the reason they can't use the pumps is bc they can't pull from any outside water source(except for well water) due to the chance of importing invasive aquatics. He is a friend too so he has no reason to bs me. I think the people who run it just look for one excuse after the other to not have to worry about it, but I'm not really the most informed on this issue.

The same game warden also told me the "wilderness area" between the pipeline and lake misere could be shut down if a certain group of whackos knew what happens there

[BassAssasin]

Originally Posted by cmcnabb

I was told by a game warden who works lacassine the reason they can't use the pumps is bc they can't pull from any outside water source(except for well water) due to the chance of importing invasive aquatics. He is a friend too so he has no reason to bs me. I think the people who run it just look for one excuse after the other to not have to worry about it, but I'm not really the most informed on this issue.

The same game warden also told me the "wilderness area" between the pipeline and lake misere could be shut down if a certain group of whackos knew what happens there

what happens there????

[cmcnabb]

Originally Posted by BassAssasin

what happens there????

Well before it grew up to nothing but cattails and all the water evaporated, it was good duck hunting

[DUCKGOGETTER]

Originally Posted by cmcnabb

i was told by a game warden who works lacassine the reason they can't use the pumps is bc they can't pull from any outside water source(except for well water) due to the chance of importing invasive aquatics. He is a friend too so he has no reason to bs me. I think the people who run it just look for one excuse after the other to not have to worry about it, but i'm not really the most informed on this issue.

The same game warden also told me the "wilderness area" between the pipeline and lake misere could be shut down if a certain group of whackos knew what happens there

that's fine, but they didn't know that before they spent the money on the pumps?? It seems like they had some money that they had to use by a certain time and instead of using it to actually help the refuge they just made it look like they cared. I know i'm an outsider looking in on this i just feel like it could have been manged way better than it has imo.

[cmcnabb]

Originally Posted by DUCKGOGETTER

that's fine, but they didn't know that before they spent the money on the pumps?? It seems like they had some money that they had to use by a certain time and instead of using it to actually help the refuge they just made it look like they cared. I know i'm an outsider looking in on this i just feel like it could have been manged way better than it has imo.

Yea that's what I was getting at, why install the pumps to begin with if you can't use them. I think your right about the money thing because if they don't spend all they have, whatever is left over is taken from the next budget. But that's just what I was told