Whooping Crane

[Goooh]

Don't choot

http://www.katc.com/news/10-whooping...rmilion-parish

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[BuckingFastard]

Does anyone know why they were becoming endangered in the first place? lack of adaptation?

[LakenLady]

Originally Posted by BuckingFastard

Does anyone know why they were becoming endangered in the first place? lack of adaptation?

You wanna shoot that... Cook dat & invite all your buddies!!!

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by BuckingFastard

Does anyone know why they were becoming endangered in the first place? lack of adaptation?

Overhunting, habitat loss, and they also take a while to reach adulthood and breeding age. Feathers from a whooper were fashionable (egrets and ibis actually used to be a LOT less common for this reason also). The population in SW La was a non-migratory flock and a huge white bird that is not off limits to shooting doesn't stand a chance in south La
The group here is deemed an 'experimental' flock.

I went to see them last year at White Lake and they have an fenced in area (no top) where they release the birds to adapt for a period of time (called a 'soft release'), they place feed in there and they come and go as they please until they are able to feed themselves. The researchers dress in all white and have a mask on so that the birds never 'see' a human, the person has a 'glove' that looks like a whooping cranes head and they are led around that way. When you go up to see them, you get out the boat and get in a blind so that they never see you. Also listened to a presentation on them this year and at the time they weren't breeding. There was a nest made but no eggs were laid, apparently this isn't uncommon behavior to make a false nest.

If anyone wants to see Sandhill Cranes, the largest population in Louisiana is right there in Holmwood and they should be there right now

[Micah]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Overhunting, habitat loss, and they also take a while to reach adulthood and breeding age. Feathers from a whooper were fashionable (egrets and ibis actually used to be a LOT less common for this reason also). The population in SW La was a non-migratory flock and a huge white bird that is not off limits to shooting doesn't stand a chance in south La
The group here is deemed an 'experimental' flock.

I went to see them last year at White Lake and they have an fenced in area (no top) where they release the birds to adapt for a period of time (called a 'soft release'), they place feed in there and they come and go as they please until they are able to feed themselves. The researchers dress in all white and have a mask on so that the birds never 'see' a human, the person has a 'glove' that looks like a whooping cranes head and they are led around that way. When you go up to see them, you get out the boat and get in a blind so that they never see you. Also listened to a presentation on them this year and at the time they weren't breeding. There was a nest made but no eggs were laid, apparently this isn't uncommon behavior to make a false nest.

If anyone wants to see Sandhill Cranes, the largest population in Louisiana is right there in Holmwood and they should be there right now

They are here

[Top Dawg]

What a waste of money

[Finfeatherfur]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

What a waste of money

But the tree huggers and politicians love this stuff!!!

[3FLa]

What DuckButter said is true. However, another issue was that ants would eat the eggs. That same problem is now occurring with bobwhite quail. Many years ago the ants were controlled by certain, and very effective chemical applications. The government, in its majestic wisdom, banned that chemical, so the ant population exploded. Now, after an act my Congress, that same chemical can now be placed at nesting sites ONLY for whooping cranes, and ONLY by trained government officials.

[Duck Butter]

There was once a time not that long ago when whitetailed deer and turkeys were not common throughout much of the state due to overhunting and habitat loss, but some organizations stepped in and through reintroduction efforts look at what we have now. Add black bears to that list as well, we will have a hunting season on black bears thanks to reintroduction efforts Most of these efforts were not done by 'tree huggers' by any means The word 'conservation' kinda sorta resembles the word 'conservative' strangely enough

[Spunt Drag]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

There was once a time not that long ago when whitetailed deer and turkeys were not common throughout much of the state due to overhunting and habitat loss, but some organizations stepped in and through reintroduction efforts look at what we have now. Add black bears to that list as well, we will have a hunting season on black bears thanks to reintroduction efforts Most of these efforts were not done by 'tree huggers' by any means The word 'conservation' kinda sorta resembles the word 'conservative' strangely enough

Those efforts are also paid for by license sales. A little way to give back to the hunters who funded them. A whooping crane does very little in the way of giving back to hunters.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag

Those efforts are also paid for by license sales. A little way to give back to the hunters who funded them. A whooping crane does very little in the way of giving back to hunters.

Not everyone with a Save the Louisiana Black bear license plate is a hunter, and not everyone in the National Wild Turkey Federation hunts turkeys. Many birdwatchers give money to Ducks Unlimited as well and they don't hunt but they are not against hunting and realize that money used for ducks benefits a suite of other species. The same habitat that whooping cranes use is the same habitat that other waterbirds use (even ones we get to hunt), its all connected.

[Mr T]

I'm no tree hugger or politician, but I love seeing the Whooping Crane back in Louisiana. I hunt and fish every opportunity I get but there's more to outdoor recreation than shooting things.'
Open your mind dude. That ignorant attitude is the reason WHoopers, Black Bears, WT deer, turkey etc got in trouble in the first place. I'm sure folks said the same things when Roosevelt created the first National Parks.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by Mr T

I'm no tree hugger or politician, but I love seeing the Whooping Crane back in Louisiana. I hunt and fish every opportunity I get but there's more to outdoor recreation than shooting things.'
Open your mind dude. That ignorant attitude is the reason WHoopers, Black Bears, WT deer, turkey etc got in trouble in the first place. I'm sure folks said the same things when Roosevelt created the first National Parks.

10 pages

[Spunt Drag]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

10 pages

Haha for sure

[Spunt Drag]

Originally Posted by Mr T

I'm no tree hugger or politician, but I love seeing the Whooping Crane back in Louisiana. I hunt and fish every opportunity I get but there's more to outdoor recreation than shooting things.'
Open your mind dude. That ignorant attitude is the reason WHoopers, Black Bears, WT deer, turkey etc got in trouble in the first place. I'm sure folks said the same things when Roosevelt created the first National Parks.

I'll open my mind when I can close my wallet.

[Goooh]

Wood ducks too.

So, the only thing worth conserving is something we can kill? Because symbiotic relationships don't exist within an ecosystem?

[BloodKnot]

I am no tree hugger, but I applaud efforts to restore and retain the natural land and species to the area. The efforts to get whooping cranes back in the area should be welcomed by hunters and non-hunters, in my opinion.

These cranes where in my area during teal season. No one stopped our hunting and we did hunt. No Whooping Cranes were harmed.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by BloodKnot

I am no tree hugger, but I applaud efforts to restore and retain the natural land and species to the area. The efforts to get whooping cranes back in the area should be welcomed by hunters and non-hunters, in my opinion.

That will never happen because many hunters don't care about something they can't shoot. Fact is, it was not so long ago that you couldn't shoot a Turkey. If they can't shoot it, they don't see the point of restoring something that has no economic value to them.

My view is, there are hunters and there are conservationists. A conservationist appreciates all species, whether huntable or not. A hunter only cares about a species he can put in the pot. Some conservationists are hunters, but a hunter isn't a conservationist. All he wants tto do is fill the freezer.

Same can be said for some fishermen I know.

I'm just glutton for arguments......

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[Spunt Drag]

Goddddddddddd so all the run-down and underfunded WMA's around the state and you guys honestly think all the money they're spending on whooping cranes is terrific?!?!?