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Goooh 12-12-2013 05:23 AM

Whooping Crane
 
Don't choot

http://www.katc.com/news/10-whooping...rmilion-parish

bgizzle 12-12-2013 07:38 AM

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BuckingFastard 12-12-2013 08:30 AM

Does anyone know why they were becoming endangered in the first place? lack of adaptation?

LakenLady 12-12-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 651179)
Does anyone know why they were becoming endangered in the first place? lack of adaptation?

You wanna shoot that... Cook dat & invite all your buddies!!!

Duck Butter 12-12-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BuckingFastard (Post 651179)
Does anyone know why they were becoming endangered in the first place? lack of adaptation?

Overhunting, habitat loss, and they also take a while to reach adulthood and breeding age. Feathers from a whooper were fashionable (egrets and ibis actually used to be a LOT less common for this reason also). The population in SW La was a non-migratory flock and a huge white bird that is not off limits to shooting doesn't stand a chance in south La:eek::rotfl:
The group here is deemed an 'experimental' flock.

I went to see them last year at White Lake and they have an fenced in area (no top) where they release the birds to adapt for a period of time (called a 'soft release'), they place feed in there and they come and go as they please until they are able to feed themselves. The researchers dress in all white and have a mask on so that the birds never 'see' a human, the person has a 'glove' that looks like a whooping cranes head and they are led around that way. When you go up to see them, you get out the boat and get in a blind so that they never see you. Also listened to a presentation on them this year and at the time they weren't breeding. There was a nest made but no eggs were laid, apparently this isn't uncommon behavior to make a false nest.

If anyone wants to see Sandhill Cranes, the largest population in Louisiana is right there in Holmwood and they should be there right now

Top Dawg 12-12-2013 09:24 AM

What a waste of money

Finfeatherfur 12-12-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 651197)
What a waste of money


But the tree huggers and politicians love this stuff!!!

3FLa 12-12-2013 10:31 AM

Another issue
 
What DuckButter said is true. However, another issue was that ants would eat the eggs. That same problem is now occurring with bobwhite quail. Many years ago the ants were controlled by certain, and very effective chemical applications. The government, in its majestic wisdom, banned that chemical, so the ant population exploded. Now, after an act my Congress, that same chemical can now be placed at nesting sites ONLY for whooping cranes, and ONLY by trained government officials.

Duck Butter 12-12-2013 10:38 AM

There was once a time not that long ago when whitetailed deer and turkeys were not common throughout much of the state due to overhunting and habitat loss, but some organizations stepped in and through reintroduction efforts look at what we have now. Add black bears to that list as well, we will have a hunting season on black bears thanks to reintroduction efforts:) Most of these efforts were not done by 'tree huggers' by any means:rotfl: The word 'conservation' kinda sorta resembles the word 'conservative' strangely enough:spineyes:

Mr T 12-12-2013 10:44 AM

I'm no tree hugger or politician, but I love seeing the Whooping Crane back in Louisiana. I hunt and fish every opportunity I get but there's more to outdoor recreation than shooting things.'
Open your mind dude. That ignorant attitude is the reason WHoopers, Black Bears, WT deer, turkey etc got in trouble in the first place. I'm sure folks said the same things when Roosevelt created the first National Parks.

Spunt Drag 12-12-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 651221)
There was once a time not that long ago when whitetailed deer and turkeys were not common throughout much of the state due to overhunting and habitat loss, but some organizations stepped in and through reintroduction efforts look at what we have now. Add black bears to that list as well, we will have a hunting season on black bears thanks to reintroduction efforts:) Most of these efforts were not done by 'tree huggers' by any means:rotfl: The word 'conservation' kinda sorta resembles the word 'conservative' strangely enough:spineyes:

Those efforts are also paid for by license sales. A little way to give back to the hunters who funded them. A whooping crane does very little in the way of giving back to hunters.

Duck Butter 12-12-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 651224)
I'm no tree hugger or politician, but I love seeing the Whooping Crane back in Louisiana. I hunt and fish every opportunity I get but there's more to outdoor recreation than shooting things.'
Open your mind dude. That ignorant attitude is the reason WHoopers, Black Bears, WT deer, turkey etc got in trouble in the first place. I'm sure folks said the same things when Roosevelt created the first National Parks.

:cheers:




10 pages:rotfl:

Spunt Drag 12-12-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr T (Post 651224)
I'm no tree hugger or politician, but I love seeing the Whooping Crane back in Louisiana. I hunt and fish every opportunity I get but there's more to outdoor recreation than shooting things.'
Open your mind dude. That ignorant attitude is the reason WHoopers, Black Bears, WT deer, turkey etc got in trouble in the first place. I'm sure folks said the same things when Roosevelt created the first National Parks.

I'll open my mind when I can close my wallet.

Spunt Drag 12-12-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 651227)
:cheers:




10 pages:rotfl:

Haha for sure

Duck Butter 12-12-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 651225)
Those efforts are also paid for by license sales. A little way to give back to the hunters who funded them. A whooping crane does very little in the way of giving back to hunters.

Not everyone with a Save the Louisiana Black bear license plate is a hunter, and not everyone in the National Wild Turkey Federation hunts turkeys. Many birdwatchers give money to Ducks Unlimited as well and they don't hunt but they are not against hunting and realize that money used for ducks benefits a suite of other species. The same habitat that whooping cranes use is the same habitat that other waterbirds use (even ones we get to hunt), its all connected.

Spunt Drag 12-12-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 651234)
Not everyone with a Save the Louisiana Black bear license plate is a hunter, and not everyone in the National Wild Turkey Federation hunts turkeys. Many birdwatchers give money to Ducks Unlimited as well and they don't hunt but they are not against hunting and realize that money used for ducks benefits a suite of other species. The same habitat that whooping cranes use is the same habitat that other waterbirds use (even ones we get to hunt), its all connected.

Haha yea axe hunters how excited they get when they share their "habitat" with whooping cranes. That's the quickest way to get your blind shut down.

Duck Butter 12-12-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 651241)
Haha yea axe hunters how excited they get when they share their "habitat" with whooping cranes. That's the quickest way to get your blind shut down.

This population of whooping cranes doesn't fall under the Endangered Species Act, they are 'experimental' so your place is fine if they are using it, just don't shoot em, a transmitter gives a signal when the animal is dead:spineyes:

LakenLady 12-12-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 651249)
This population of whooping cranes doesn't fall under the Endangered Species Act, they are 'experimental' so your place is fine if they are using it, just don't shoot em, a transmitter gives a signal when the animal is dead:spineyes:

lol

Goooh 12-12-2013 12:23 PM

Wood ducks too.

So, the only thing worth conserving is something we can kill? Because symbiotic relationships don't exist within an ecosystem?

Micah 12-12-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 651189)
Overhunting, habitat loss, and they also take a while to reach adulthood and breeding age. Feathers from a whooper were fashionable (egrets and ibis actually used to be a LOT less common for this reason also). The population in SW La was a non-migratory flock and a huge white bird that is not off limits to shooting doesn't stand a chance in south La:eek::rotfl:
The group here is deemed an 'experimental' flock.

I went to see them last year at White Lake and they have an fenced in area (no top) where they release the birds to adapt for a period of time (called a 'soft release'), they place feed in there and they come and go as they please until they are able to feed themselves. The researchers dress in all white and have a mask on so that the birds never 'see' a human, the person has a 'glove' that looks like a whooping cranes head and they are led around that way. When you go up to see them, you get out the boat and get in a blind so that they never see you. Also listened to a presentation on them this year and at the time they weren't breeding. There was a nest made but no eggs were laid, apparently this isn't uncommon behavior to make a false nest.

If anyone wants to see Sandhill Cranes, the largest population in Louisiana is right there in Holmwood and they should be there right now


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