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Vermillionaire 06-25-2013 03:48 PM

Leader knots with micro guides
 
I'm looking at a new rod with micro guides, and I fish braid on all my reels. Has anyone run into problems with braid to mono knots, like uni to uni, catching the micro guides?

bayouchub 06-25-2013 03:50 PM

Uni to uni will catch. Alberto will not from my experience

swamp snorkler 06-25-2013 04:14 PM

Blood knot...... try that. Download the knot wars app

Ducktrickster 06-25-2013 04:55 PM

Micros are horrible for leader knots. I have tried three different knot and even tried smaller leader material with a duce and nothing has worked. I spoke with one of their guys at the outdoor expo last year and was told to use a 6 inch leader...lol....or no leader at all...lolx2.

noodle creek 06-25-2013 05:26 PM

Tie a shorter leader

MathGeek 06-25-2013 06:06 PM

I routinely use 4-6 ft leaders with a swivel. No need to reel the knot into the guides to put fish in the boat. No need to tie 6" leaders either.

beachblind 06-25-2013 06:11 PM

Search on you tube Albright knot great video easy to see how to tie it works great using my duce rod

jchief 06-25-2013 06:46 PM

Micros don't like knots.

I have seen a couple of recoil guides break with guy's using leaders.

Short leader would probably be best.

Goooh 06-25-2013 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 598100)
I routinely use 4-6 ft leaders with a swivel. No need to reel the knot into the guides to put fish in the boat. No need to tie 6" leaders either.

I'm with you on this, I don't use leaders that long though. No matter what, I don't see a need to reel them into the guides.

Bucoo 06-25-2013 07:28 PM

I just use a leader that is a foot or so and I don't reel it into my guides. If i do reel into my guides I don't cast until I get the knot out.

jlincecum 06-25-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucoo (Post 598122)
I just use a leader that is a foot or so and I don't reel it into my guides. If i do reel into my guides I don't cast until I get the knot out.

^^^this

Montauk17 06-25-2013 08:01 PM

I hate banging the knot through the guides....you can't tell me the knot does not weaken from the friction. I just tie a 20" leader to the braid uni to uni or if in a rush a triple sergens knot. With a jerk jr or sand eel I use a #10 spro swivel to keep the line twist to a minimum.

I make oil 06-25-2013 08:18 PM

I use a blood knot to a 3' Fluoro leader. No problems.

goldenrod 06-25-2013 08:21 PM

You ain't using a duce

BassYakR 06-25-2013 09:23 PM

I use the albright and i have duce rods... Hits the guides but still casts a mile

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PotLikinisAhabbit 06-25-2013 09:31 PM

Crazy Alberto tied right seems to be the best for micro guides just cut the tags flush and only use 10-12 lb leader with 20lb braid. Just don't forget to set the drag fishin a smaller dia. Leader

Montauk17 06-26-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotLikinisAhabbit (Post 598150)
Crazy Alberto tied right seems to be the best for micro guides just cut the tags flush and only use 10-12 lb leader with 20lb braid. Just don't forget to set the drag fishin a smaller dia. Leader

Tried the alberto knot,seems to go through the guides better than a uni to uni. Just not sold on the knot going through the guides.

PotLikinisAhabbit 06-26-2013 06:51 PM

Yea you can deff still feel the knot. I've never had any trouble with it losing integrity in a days fishing. Not sure on the long term wear on the guide though.

Gasper Master 06-29-2013 11:19 PM

I use the uni to uni knot with a 24" leader on a deuce with micro guides and don't have a problem. If you reel it up slow or disengage your spool and let your bait drop, the knot will hang every time. But, with normal casting and retrieving I rarely have problems.


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