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pdar88 12-01-2012 07:30 AM

Ethanol Production
 
Just curious, if anyone on here has ever, or is involved in the Production of said substance.

Ray 12-01-2012 09:50 AM

It's crap.

jldsc 12-01-2012 07:19 PM

x2...democrat fuel!!!

pdar88 12-01-2012 09:07 PM

It as a fuel is Crap, however it is also called Moonshine.
Alot of Northern people distill it and it's Legal.

Hebert 12-01-2012 10:24 PM

The BP bio-diesel experimental plant in mermentau is shutting down production....BP has decided not to build the full scale Florida or laccasine plants...

marshrunner757 12-02-2012 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdar88 (Post 523703)
It as a fuel is Crap, however it is also called Moonshine.
Alot of Northern people distill it and it's Legal.

Not legal to distill anything in the states.

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kibb 12-02-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshrunner757 (Post 523759)
Not legal to distill anything in the states.

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It can be distilled if you have the fuel permit.

Ray 12-02-2012 10:17 AM

It is not efficient to distill as a fuel for the masses.
It can be done in countries like Brazil, where the labor and fuel is cheaper.
They don't require clean burning diesel for their tractors like the US.
Their labor is 10X less than in the US.
It costs more to prep a field, plant, fertilize, cut, transport, store, distill, transport, sell... ect.
After all that, it is not as efficient as the products it is replacing, AND the biggest downfall, it has messed up more boat tanks, hoses and engines than anything else.

Leave the corn and sugar to food sources.

Let the oil companies drill, produce and refine the fuels.

swamp snorkler 12-02-2012 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 523787)
It is not efficient to distill as a fuel for the masses.
It can be done in countries like Brazil, where the labor and fuel is cheaper.
They don't require clean burning diesel for their tractors like the US.
Their labor is 10X less than in the US.
It costs more to prep a field, plant, fertilize, cut, transport, store, distill, transport, sell... ect.
After all that, it is not as efficient as the products it is replacing, AND the biggest downfall, it has messed up more boat tanks, hoses and engines than anything else.

Leave the corn and sugar to food sources.

Let the oil companies drill, produce and refine the fuels.


Well Said.

eman 12-02-2012 11:53 AM

Got a great friend in South Carolina that can teach you the fine art of setting up a "fuel" distillation unit .And i bet he can give you a good "recipe" for some grade a
ethanol.

marshrunner757 12-02-2012 12:26 PM

Yes, with the proper permits its legal. Better have deep pockets for that. As stated, for fuel, its simply not worth it.

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weedeater 12-02-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshrunner757 (Post 523835)
Yes, with the proper permits its legal. Better have deep pockets for that. As stated, for fuel, its simply not worth it.

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Thought you were allowed to brew a limited number gallons "fuel" a yr for personal use

pdar88 12-02-2012 03:30 PM

An Individual can with a permit produce up to 10,000 gallons a year.
However the cost of production will likely be more expensive than just buying it at the pump. But you can also heat your home with ethanol.
I have a fireplace that runs on ethanol, that I produce with rotten fruits and such.
The fermentation part, is the hardest part to deal with.
Just doing this to get, off the Grid a little.

weedeater 12-02-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdar88 (Post 523872)
An Individual can with a permit produce up to 10,000 gallons a year.
However the cost of production will likely be more expensive than just buying it at the pump

I ment the other type of brew.... we just got back from Gatlinburg, Tn and they have a moonshine brewery

all star rod 12-02-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hebert (Post 523736)
The BP bio-diesel experimental plant in mermentau is shutting down production....BP has decided not to build the full scale Florida or laccasine plants...

Yes, it was cancelled not too long ago. They were looking at the grass roots plant in FL and from there several other larger plants thru the US. Company I work for was in a very good position to supply the mass transfer internals for the distillation towers.

pdar88 12-02-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 523912)
I ment the other type of brew.... we just got back from Gatlinburg, Tn and they have a moonshine brewery

Got a buddy in Tenn. , lives 2 mi. from Jack's Plant. Them boys up there can make some Shine!

Feesherman 12-02-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weedeater (Post 523856)
Thought you were allowed to brew a limited number gallons "fuel" a yr for personal use

No, not allowed.

Gerald 12-03-2012 07:43 PM

Ray, I watched a short discussion on TV today about E-15. I wish I had seen the beginning of this segment.

The guy that was "for" the E-15 actually said that it was cheeper than gasoline to make. My understanding is that it cost more than twice as much to make Ethanol. This same guy said that all of "big" car manufactures said that their cars would run ok on E-15. He "side-stepted" questions about older cars [made before 2012] and if E-15 would cause problems.

Ray 12-03-2012 08:44 PM

Just as well throw away your older boats and cars, if they go with E-15.
BOAT-US did several tests with E-15 and some of the newer outboards will lose HP.
Most of the older boats will have $$$ issues.
I know a guy at the Point on V Bay that has new twin Yamaha 250's on an older boat.
He filled up with E-10 and had thousands of dollars in repairs. Older tanks and hoses were cleaned out and pushed crap into the engine. Clogging up every port from the inlet to the injectors.
It is a solvent. Will clean out everything.
If your boat is new, run E-10 and never run anything else, you might be o.k.
I do know that Honda's don't run as good on E-10. Most Merc's and Yamaha's have no issues.
BOAT-US is against Ethanol like the NRA is against Obama.


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