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Reefman 08-16-2012 09:56 AM
Where do you put your bulb?
 
Having issues w/ filling up gas line when pumping the bulb. Mine is placed after the water filter; between the filter and motor. Will I do better placing the bulb before the filter; between tank and filter? 200hp Johnson w/ spin on filter 3ft from motor. Seems I can never get the bulb to fully fill up, starting takes a while. Once engine is started will run fine the rest of day. Thanks....

SGib 08-16-2012 09:59 AM
Maybe a small airhole on filter or bulb where they connect.

PaulMyers 08-16-2012 09:59 AM
Mine are located after the filter and I have no issues. This is on a 25hp merc and a 200hp merc.

SGib 08-16-2012 10:02 AM
After was well on mine.

meaux fishing 08-16-2012 10:07 AM
I would change your bulb and see if that helps. you might also change the hose between your separator and the bulb . Mine was between the filter and the motor on my two stroke also

Reefman 08-16-2012 10:16 AM
Thanks guys....Meaux, I just changed all hoses/bulb from tank, filter, bulb and motor to the new recommended type (blue grey color). I've always had issues w/ this since new. Seems an air pocket forms in the separator and won't let it fill up totally w/ fuel. I'm thinkin' on changing out that separator unit to a new one.

meaux fishing 08-16-2012 10:19 AM
Good idea if that doesnt work another thing you might check is the fitting that comes out of the tank might be slightly gummed up. There was a one way ball valve on mine that got stuck a few times and would make the fuel slow to come through

Crawl79 08-16-2012 10:21 AM
I have a similar problem. Bulb is between engine and filter.

Had an old bulb and it was in bad shape, replaced bulb and fuel lines put bulb out of sun in compartment.

Engine always starts fine but as the day goes on and it gets hot out I start having trouble. If I forget to pump the bulb later in the day, after I start up engine will die. Ask Gasper Master about this, he can tell you about hitting the deck Saturday.

The bulb seems to get air in it. Maybe an air leak somewhere?

Reefman 08-16-2012 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 478329)
Good idea if that doesnt work another thing you might check is the fitting that comes out of the tank might be slightly gummed up. There was a one way ball valve on mine that got stuck a few times and would make the fuel slow to come through
Forgot to mention I also had the fuel pick up changed out to stainless steel. I'm still focused on that separator!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crawl79 (Post 478331)
I have a similar problem. Bulb is between engine and filter.

Had an old bulb and it was in bad shape, replaced bulb and fuel lines put bulb out of sun in compartment.

Engine always starts fine but as the day goes on and it gets hot out I start having trouble. If I forget to pump the bulb later in the day, after I start up engine will die. Ask Gasper Master about this, he can tell you about hitting the deck Saturday.

The bulb seems to get air in it. Maybe an air leak somewhere?
Crawler, my bulb is in a closed compartment with oil reservoir. Starting after laying up for a week or two is my problem....after starting all is good.

cmcnabb 08-16-2012 10:28 AM
My bulb was between fuel water seperator and motor. When I changed my filter, it would take forever to prime again, but after that it was fine. Now I put my bulb between the tank and filter so when I change the filter it doesn't take so long to prime again.

Reefman 08-16-2012 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 478340)
My bulb was between fuel water seperator and motor. When I changed my filter, it would take forever to prime again, but after that it was fine. Now I put my bulb between the tank and filter so when I change the filter it doesn't take so long to prime again.
Kinda what I was thinking...pushing the fuel instead of trying to suck it through that filter. Some way air is getting between the fuel and the discharge to motor in that filter. Seems once fuel is topped in that filter it should stay that way. Mine doesn't. Still eyeing that filter unit! I think its gotta go! I've changed everything else!

Crawl79 08-16-2012 10:41 AM
Well I guess it is worth a try for me to move the bulb between tank and filter.

cmcnabb 08-16-2012 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefman (Post 478346)
Kinda what I was thinking...pushing the fuel instead of trying to suck it through that filter. Some way air is getting between the fuel and the discharge to motor in that filter. Seems once fuel is topped in that filter it should stay that way. Mine doesn't. Still eyeing that filter unit! I think its gotta go! I've changed everything else!

Yea mine stayed topped off. Also, if you point the discharge of the bulb up when pumping, its supposed to pull better

Kenner18 08-16-2012 11:16 AM
Dont buy hoses and bulbs from walmart those suck as far as quality goes,I think its the attwood brand .I have had bad ones right out of the package . I usually put the bulb before the filter so it will fill the filter on the way to the engine .

Crawdaddct 08-16-2012 12:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenner18 (Post 478378)
Dont buy hoses and bulbs from walmart those suck as far as quality goes,I think its the attwood brand .I have had bad ones right out of the package . I usually put the bulb before the filter so it will fill the filter on the way to the engine .
X2 - Go to a marine center and find the ones with dual valves.

Montauk17 08-16-2012 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenner18 (Post 478378)
Dont buy hoses and bulbs from walmart those suck as far as quality goes,I think its the attwood brand .I have had bad ones right out of the package . I usually put the bulb before the filter so it will fill the filter on the way to the engine .
I could not agree more....the mercury or quicksilver bulb are the best IMO.

cmcnabb 08-16-2012 12:48 PM
I use the quicksilver bulb and fuel line from oriellys

Reefman 08-16-2012 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montauk17 (Post 478411)
I could not agree more....the mercury or quicksilver bulb are the best IMO.


Mine ain't the merc or quicksilver...before I remove that filter assembly I gonna change the bulb out tonight. Thinking about it I have no fuel leaks through the whole system...bulb seems the logical culprit.

Montauk17 08-16-2012 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cmcnabb (Post 478414)
I use the quicksilver bulb and fuel line from oriellys
That is what I use as well....I don't worry about ethanol rated line cause I don't put a drop of it in my tank.

j.e.hagen 08-16-2012 09:34 PM
Bulb before filter I don't think there is wrong way it just seems to fill faster and my boat sat for about a month and 3 or 4 squeezes and it was tight, but it does wor both ways.


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