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Spunt Drag 05-27-2012 05:55 PM

Flourocarbon leader questions?
 
I love fishin plastics and artificial wit braid but I noticed yesterday it was pretty visible in clearer water. I wanna buy some flouro leader material but need advice. What brand? Lb test? And how long of a leader for specks?

Armand16 05-27-2012 06:24 PM

I know you're askin about floro but don't rule 12 lb mono for plastics it's worth a try. As long as you set your drag right and retie every so often u can land anything.

BROWN FIN 05-27-2012 06:28 PM

Seaguar.

MathGeek 05-27-2012 06:36 PM

I was a dedicated Seaguar angler for many years, but I kept having unexplained break offs and I began to doubt whether it really lived up to its rating, especially with knots. Under my oversight, some students did scientific testing and found that Seaguar can be as low as 69% of its rated strength when using a recommended knot. Ande came in at 116% of its rated strength even when a knot is tied. See the report at: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1202/1202.5260.pdf

I've been buying Ande exclusively since the testing, but I still have a bunch of the other brands to use up. Seaguar catches fish, but I recommend buying about 50% higher rating than you think you need, because that is a realistic estimate at where the stuff really breaks.

Spunt Drag 05-27-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 438523)
I know you're askin about floro but don't rule 12 lb mono for plastics it's worth a try. As long as you set your drag right and retie every so often u can land anything.

I HATE re-tie'in. I've called it a day when they were bitin just because I didn't wanna re-tie. But thanks for the advice, if it comes down to it, I will try it.

jchief 05-27-2012 06:41 PM

I carry 20, 25 and 30 flouro and use each depending on what I feel I need. For plastics, the vast majority of the time, it is 20 lb Trilene. For plastic I use a swivel and about 18" leader that I shorten as needed.

Armand16 05-27-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 438531)
I HATE re-tie'in. I've called it a day when they were bitin just because I didn't wanna re-tie. But thanks for the advice, if it comes down to it, I will try it.

I agree, it can be a pain but last trip when i was catchin em every cast my buddy couldn't buy a bite and he uses braid with a floro leader and I think it was due to the better action that mono gives the bait, so IMO it's worth the retie.

But u never know it could also be because he sucks

eman 05-27-2012 06:54 PM

How can mono give better action than braid ? just askin?

Spunt Drag 05-27-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Armand16 (Post 438533)
I agree, it can be a pain but last trip when i was catchin em every cast my buddy couldn't buy a bite and he uses braid with a floro leader and I think it was due to the better action that mono gives the bait, so IMO it's worth the retie.

But u never know it could also be because he sucks

Hahaha I've been that guy.

Spunt Drag 05-27-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by eman (Post 438537)
How can mono give better action than braid ? just askin?

I think he meant mono gives better action than flouro, tied as a leader.

PaulMyers 05-27-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 438538)
Hahaha I've been that guy.

I am that guy! :o

Armand16 05-27-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 438543)
I think he meant mono gives better action than flouro, tied as a leader.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eman (Post 438537)
How can mono give better action than braid ? just askin?

Yup not a fan of floro with plastics

chasin'tail 05-27-2012 08:59 PM

Just remember flouro requires different knots, flouro will cut into itself. And yes it is stiffer that mono. They do have some that are more limp.

Spunt Drag 05-27-2012 09:34 PM

I tied 20lb Berkeley fluoro and I don't like the feel of it, ima try some mono tomorrow

MathGeek 05-27-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunt Drag (Post 438602)
I tied 20lb Berkeley fluoro and I don't like the feel of it, ima try some mono tomorrow

I could see heavier leaders when the odds of a bull red are high and youdo't want to break off, but if trout are the only thing on the menu, I really prefer 15 lb fluorocarbon. I often use a 6' leader so the visibility of the braid is far away and the impact on the action is minimal.

Raymond 05-27-2012 10:45 PM

Try heavy mono 20-25# and don't worry about floro.

Gasper Master 05-27-2012 10:49 PM

i use Berkley Vanish and have had zero problems with it so far. I use the 20lb as a leader for my redfish live bait carolina rigs for reds, and the 12lb for carolina rig and artificial baits for specks.

Garfish 05-28-2012 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gasper Master (Post 438642)
i use Berkley Vanish and have had zero problems with it so far. I use the 20lb as a leader for my redfish live bait carolina rigs for reds, and the 12lb for carolina rig and artificial baits for specks.

X2.
I use the same stuff and have had no issues. Usually 20lb. for leaders. Seems to have good abrasion resistance. I use it a lot by jetties, rocks and old pilings when bait fishing.

MathGeek 05-28-2012 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chasin'tail (Post 438592)
Just remember flouro requires different knots, flouro will cut into itself. And yes it is stiffer that mono. They do have some that are more limp.

Usually the fluoro that is intended as main casting line is more limp, but the dedicated leader materials better withstand abrasion.

"W" 05-28-2012 11:11 AM

20lbs Berleky Vision


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