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wetfeathers00 · #1 10-27-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kcinnick

Just passed on a deal on a champion, guy has pictures of his boat on a trailer, even mentions the boat "sat" on a tandem axle trailer... Trailer not included, he is keeping it... what else is he not telling me.

I will tell you what he is not telling you.

Champion is out of business COMPLETELY. Ranger bought them and supported the Champion made boats until 2012. Now there is no support for Champion boats, including parts, warranty, or anything else. Ranger has washed their hands of Champion completely after dissolving them.

What does that mean??? Champion boats are only worth the Motor hanging on the back.

jl8200 · #2 10-27-2015, 05:23 PM

Here's a story first hand on Champion: I was in Lake Area Marine getting my boat serviced earlier this year and a guy comes in looking for a broken part off his champion boat. They couldn't help him because they don't make parts any longer. He was pretty much screwed. It was a cast metal part and I don't know what it was for. I told him he might have to have something fabed up and try Southside Machine Works in LC. It just something to think about when buying a used boat from a manufacturer no longer in business.

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Originally Posted by wetfeathers00

I will tell you what he is not telling you.

Champion is out of business COMPLETELY. Ranger bought them and supported the Champion made boats until 2012. Now there is no support for Champion boats, including parts, warranty, or anything else. Ranger has washed their hands of Champion completely after dissolving them.

What does that mean??? Champion boats are only worth the Motor hanging on the back.

alphaman · #3 10-27-2015, 02:59 PM

I know a few things about all these boats , they all float in water and they don't catch fish. and you can hang a motor on the back😆😆uploadfromtaptalk1445975952719.jpg lmao

wetfeathers00 · #4 10-27-2015, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaman

I know a few things about all these boats , they all float in water and they don't catch fish. and you can hang a motor on the back😆😆Attachment 97003 lmao

And when all the expensive boats get back to the dock with empty ice chest and live wells, all the Canadians are fishing off the bank with 5 Gallon buckets full of fish

jl8200 · #5 10-27-2015, 06:51 PM

I think Marty F has an Epic and he seems to be happy with it. Speaking of which I haven't seen him on here in a while. Hope he's ok...

wishin i was fishin · #6 10-27-2015, 06:58 PM

Ha, how about we build kcinnick a boat?

We should be able to pull off a decent build with all of the knowledge we have floating around here!

kcinnick · #7 10-27-2015, 07:13 PM

So, thoughts on Key West, the wife unit likes the 230BR, I got a quote for $49k for the 230BR and $53K for the 246BR with a Yamaha 250.

Marque · #8 10-27-2015, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kcinnick

So, thoughts on Key West, the wife unit likes the 230BR, I got a quote for $49k for the 230BR and $53K for the 246BR with a Yamaha 250.

Solid boat for a good price. It was what I was leaning towards before I went the my Cape Bay. Good amount of dead rise with a relativly shallow draft makes it a really versatile. The lay out is very family friendly, yet highly functional. I bet she loves the head in the console too.

Asking for an opinion on a boat is about the same as asking who's the best looking woman. You are going to get a wide variety of opinions. I had to pick the wrong boat to figure out what I needed in the right one. It all depends on what you are expecting. Depending on your experience level, most production boats on the market will satisfy your needs. It all comes down to how you are going to use it. I don't like to pick my days and don't mind fishing in rough conditions so I am happy to have the boat I have. The Key West is definitely capable of handling the occasional bad day but I would be hesitant to put it through too much abuse. I think that's a good price even without any accessories. Just make sure you get a sea trial before you buy it, preferably on a day that is not too calm.

wetfeathers00 · #9 10-27-2015, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kcinnick

So, thoughts on Key West, the wife unit likes the 230BR, I got a quote for $49k for the 230BR and $53K for the 246BR with a Yamaha 250.

Key West has my vote. Great boat.

B-Stealth · #10 10-27-2015, 11:41 PM

I speak from experience and I'm sure most will agree with my first statement below.

You really don't know what boat you need until you buy one and figure out what your next boat should be.

That's the reason I say go with a proven functional boat with a High Resale Value in our area and go from there.

Don't be a sucker for a boat that's popular in Florida; because you will have hell selling it down here.

I would advise against buying a mid-grade boat, then deck it out with tons of accessories.

bjhooper82 · #11 10-28-2015, 12:45 AM

There's a very nice used blackjack for sale in the classifieds on here.

kcinnick · #12 10-28-2015, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bjhooper82

There's a very nice used blackjack for sale in the classifieds on here.

I need to go through a dealer or pay cash for a boat. Buying used puts pretty harsh restraints on what I can buy. Unless someone wants to take payments or wants to trade for guns, I am in the new camp for now. Deals I am looking at used are stuff like blown motor boats, a 2010 that had its motor removed/stolen, whatever etc. Or 10+ year old boats that took major depreciation hits.

wetfeathers00 · #13 10-28-2015, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kcinnick

I need to go through a dealer or pay cash for a boat. Buying used puts pretty harsh restraints on what I can buy. Unless someone wants to take payments or wants to trade for guns, I am in the new camp for now. Deals I am looking at used are stuff like blown motor boats, a 2010 that had its motor removed/stolen, whatever etc. Or 10+ year old boats that took major depreciation hits.

KINNICK,

First, please tell me where you work, because if you can pay cash for a boat I want to come work with you . LOL

And if all your finding in boats like that are blown, then your looking in the wrong place.

Let me know if you need help. I bet we can find you a boat by next week.

bayouchub · #14 10-28-2015, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wetfeathers00

KINNICK,

First, please tell me where you work, because if you can pay cash for a boat I want to come work with you . LOL

And if all your finding in boats like that are blown, then your looking in the wrong place.

Let me know if you need help. I bet we can find you a boat by next week.

I could be wrong but I think he is trying to say he can only pay cash for an old broken down boat or finance a new boat.

kcinnick · #15 10-28-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wetfeathers00

KINNICK,

First, please tell me where you work, because if you can pay cash for a boat I want to come work with you . LOL

I own a gun store. I would rather finance, but it would have to be through a dealer.

And if all your finding in boats like that are blown, then your looking in the wrong place.

I was looking for blown motor boats with good hulls.

Let me know if you need help. I bet we can find you a boat by next week.

Right now I am looking, getting quotes, comparing boats, feeling out dealers. There are dealers I like that can't get what I want, there are some dealers that can get what I want that I don't want to do business with, at that point I will just order the thing from whoever and ship it in.

It blows my mind how boat dealerships work. I go into one and ask for a quote for XYZ boat with ABC motor and they tell me they can't order it with ABC motor because they are not a dealership for ABC motor. They can only order 123 motors on the packaged boats even though the manufacture offers ABC, 123 and *** motors with their boats.

wetfeathers00 · #16 10-28-2015, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kcinnick

It blows my mind how boat dealerships work. I go into one and ask for a quote for XYZ boat with ABC motor and they tell me they can't order it with ABC motor because they are not a dealership for ABC motor. They can only order 123 motors on the packaged boats even though the manufacture offers ABC, 123 and *** motors with their boats.

Let me tell you why.

First, many boat company's now are owned by Yamaha. Believe it or not. So they come from the factory with the motor on it already because they get huge discounts for mass purchases of motors.

Second, the Louisiana Outboard distribution rules and zoning rules mandated by the Outboard manufacturers put a lock on how far apart dealers can be from each other. Hence this forces anyone who wants to be a boat dealer to choose a motor first, or a boat brand first and take whatever Zoning rules that come with it and accept the motor they are forced to sell.