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geralddct · #41 12-29-2011, 08:29 PM

Raymond I hope you get his blind that would be nice.

nguidry · #42 12-29-2011, 09:24 PM

Go drill a hole in his blind. Any size will do. Keep him wet and miserable.

cmcnabb · #43 12-29-2011, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajunsorc

Blinds are about 3/4 of a mile apart. Not too close if people know how to hunt.

Your exactly right. Give my old man a call, he has dealt with a few bad situations.

For the people who think 3/4 of a mile is too close, think about this. The guy knew where the blinds were before he leased it so if he thought it was too close, he should have never leased it. Secondly, I have hunted closer than that for specklebellies and had great success. I just measured it out, .49 mile apart. I have hunted it and killed limits of specks and about 7 blues and snows, and my dad was across the road and killed over 40 geese! So like Doug said, if they have any sense at all it shouldn't be a problem

longcast · #44 12-29-2011, 09:56 PM

Man hunting is as bad as fishing. I guess it's better I just have one hobby. Man to shoot at a person over a game animal to me is crazy. I try and make it a purpose to try and not piss off the guys in the area I'm fishing.

cajunsorc · #45 01-01-2012, 10:46 AM

Sport didn't show on friday and we had a great hunt....able to work several big bunches of ducks within 15yds and decoyed a speck to 20 yds and 3 snows worked in to about 20-25yds. He was in the blind on Saturday but with the fog it was tough to see birds farther that 30yds and we had a decent hunt. He didn't show again this am and we had another decent hunt working several bunches in real tight and that is what I like about hunting!!

He has seen this thread and has contacted me wanting to talk about things. But after talking with him numerous times and him continuing to do the same things-I told him I had wasted enough of my time and breath over this and had nothing left to say.

Hopefully things will continue to improve but if not I will post his screen name for all to see. Thanks for all of the comments and advice.

I would like to add that the blind south of me that I mentioned in my original post was leased by cajunforeman and geralddct and they have been great in their actions and sportsmanship. The farmer is very happy with these two and I wanted to let everyone know that these two are STAND UP guys and just great representatives of sportsman. Thanks guys for keeping me hopeful that not all people are like "SPORT".

SaltyShaw · #46 01-01-2012, 11:08 AM

Thats good to hear man!

Hydro · #47 01-01-2012, 11:55 AM

I would do whatever it takes to stay in good graces with your land manager/farmer...

We lost a real good lease (10 sections, duck and deer, lower Terrebonne Parish) years ago due to poor sportsmanship/business practices with a couple of club members and have not hunted since...

By the time we found out what had gone down, it was too late to square things away with the lease owner... Ended up selling the camp, generator barge, mudboats, ect to the "new guys"...

cajunforeman · #48 01-01-2012, 08:35 PM

No problem Cajun..we've enjoyed our spot thus far this season and we hope to have many more great seasons out there. We enjoy hunting and the crew I run with realize it's not all about killing. If we get to be out there, watch a few sunrises and watch our dogs run we are usually pretty happy.

Duck Butter · #49 01-02-2012, 08:37 AM

Yep, chalk it up to a lesson learned. You can't control how people 'hunt'. It is perfectly legal to shoot at a duck 100 yards high or even 1/2 mile high, nothing you can do. Let it ride out this season and try and keep your good graces with the farmer (sounds like you have a good spot and good spots are very few and far between). Too many good friendships and good places have been lost over a silly duck.

jdm4x43732 · #50 01-02-2012, 09:16 AM

I'd go and dump some fire ants in his blind on a afternoon before he is expected there the next morning. That should keep him busy enough for a while.

You could at least get one good hunt out of the deal without him sky busting birds, he'll be head down in the blind smashing ants:*****:

1fastmerc · #51 01-02-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jdm4x43732

I'd go and dump some fire ants in his blind on a afternoon before he is expected there the next morning. That should keep him busy enough for a while.

You could at least get one good hunt out of the deal without him sky busting birds, he'll be head down in the blind smashing ants:*****:

That gave me the chills. I will embarrass myself by throwing my clothes off of I get ants on me. I hate them little dragons.

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cricket · #52 01-02-2012, 06:36 PM

I would give my right arm to have a place to hunt like that. And for him to do what he is doing is so dissrespectful. I've gotten tired of fighting people on the reserves and next year if you have a spot open please let me know. You won't be dissapointed.

lsufish · #53 01-02-2012, 07:44 PM

I rarely comment, but reading this made me so mad i couldn't help it. If he was a new hunter that did not understand the proper way of doing things i could forgive him and cut him some slack. However, he has demonstrated with his actions and childish behavior that not only does he not care to learn the proper way of doing things, but he has a complete and total disregard for anyone around him. I would kick him out immediately and not think twice about it. The fact that you have asked what you should do proves that you are a nicer and more patient person than I am. The hunting season is far too short and days too precious to have it ruined by trash like this.

Ragin_Cajun · #54 01-03-2012, 10:47 AM

I would turn the land owner onto this site....more specifically this thread! Next time you are hunting with your deputy buddy, ask him what the charges are for firing a gun in the direction of a man on the force? Curious to find this answer out!

You can't teach stupid!

duck enticer · #55 01-03-2012, 02:39 PM

Response to accusations:

I have contacted Cajunsorc via Private message on this website as well as facebook after I saw this thread. I did this because I prefer to deal with my issues face to face, and not to open up issues to the public, as they never get the full story, and that is not the type of person I am. I would still be willing to do this, as I don’t have any ill feeling toward Cajunsorc. I thought from the very beginning that we should have met and talked. That probably falls on me.

I appreciated Cajunsorc getting me on the lease, but didn’t see it as a favor as Cajunsorc said there was a first come first serve look at the blinds. We showed up quick and paid up quick. Me and two other buddies. The cost was $4000 plus flooding. Flooding for us costed $300/day, of which it took two days to flood.

We don’t have any issues with the farmer either. He has for the most part done what he said he was going to do. He is an amiable guy and I respect him. The only thing he has been neglectful of was cutting over the rest of the grass in our pond to make feed for the ducks. The said lease is basically a wild grass field grown up and then plowed before the season. The farmer then floods this plowed field and then goes back and levels it out right before the season. Our hole was about 2-3 acres cleared out and flooded. There is maybe another 3 acres that could be cleared that hasn’t been. The farmer said he was going to clear this out during the split, but didn’t. I called the farmer a few days before the opening of second split to see if he had done what he said he was going to do and got the “My tractor is broke” story. Like I said, not too big of a deal though.

The reason I am coming back to this thread and posting now is twofold. I both want to dispel a couple of mistruths that have been told specifically about me and also to let anyone who might try to lease this blind next year know the truths about it.

From the beginning:
The spacing on these blinds is approximately 450 yards apart, which is about ¼ mile. See the attachment. This was a concern of mine early, and I voiced it to both Cajunsorc and the farmer. The concern I had was that his blind was directly south of ours, meaning that a south wind meant a bang bang over our heads. As you might know approximately 60-70% of the hunting days in South Louisiana are south wind days. The farmer said that there hadn’t been any problems. Cajunsorc also said that in his 18 years there wasn’t ever an issue either. I, as well as my buddy, were hesitant, but believed it could work. In my more specific questioning of the farmer he did say that the year before the previous leaser of the blind we were in did have problems with Cajunsorc, or Cajunsorc had problems with him. Cajunsorc accused the leaser of shooting at “birds” while ducks were working him. I don’t think it ended well for the previous leaser, as they left their mojo duck in the blind and decoys at the lease. Their decoys were cut to shreds too as the farmer disked them up. Also, the blind was run over and crushed by the farmer. We had to get floor jacks in there to open it back up so we could hunt in it. I wonder if there isn’t more to this story, but I will never know. LOL. Upon further questioning the farmer informed me that there were some hunters that were hunting to Cajunsorc’s West, maybe 150-300 yards. These shooters also gave Cajunsorc problems. As you can see there were issues.

Cajunsorc informed me that he had leased the blind we were looking at for a long time. He leased it as a goose blind, and would not flood it. He would hunt ducks in his blind and then move north to our blind and hunt geese. Only recently, in the past year he did not have the means to lease both blinds, so he chose to keep only the duck blind. Cajunsorc informed me that his blind was more of a duck blind and that the blind we would be leasing was more of a goose blind. Fair enough.

We hunted our blind the second day of the opener on a south wind and found out that those blinds were too closely spaced. Every time Cajunsorc’s blind shot birds working us would flare like crazy. The volley’s were loud. Hey, we bought into it knowing that though, it is what it is. Also, Cajunsorc’s blind shot a lot as they had a duckie spot. There were 5 hunters that day and they killed 30. You can imagine the shooting. There were a lot of birds though and both blinds did okay. We killed a handful of ducks and 4 specks that day, so not too bad. Cajunsorc was amicable at this point, and things were okay.

Fast forward to the 26th of November. Cajunsorc was out of town. We had a decent morning in our blind. We killed about 9 birds between 2 of us and 1 speck. It was a foggy morning. Cajunsorc’s blind did a lot less shooting, maybe only as much as we did. That was abnormal for them as they have a much better spot and normally shoot a bunch more than us. After our hunt I get a text from Cajunsorc saying he heard we did a lot of shooting. He said his buddy told him that if we worked the birds closer then we would kill a lot more. I responded, and still contend that all “flocks” we shot at that day were 30 yards and in. We were shooting like crap though, and didn’t kill but one or two out of maybe two flocks. Yeah, terrible I know. He basically dismissed what I said and came back with “look man, I know you are new out here, but just let the birds work one more pass to see if they will get lower”. My response to him? How do you know they are going to get lower?....They might not. I left it at that and started to see a problem emerging.

Also, at this point in the season I noticed what Cajunsorc was saying, that he had a more duckie hole than us. They probably got 4 times the opportunities on ducks than we did. To add to that, ducks might work us one or two passes and then go their blind to get shot at or killed. So why should I wait for them to make another pass?
Fast forward to the next Friday. I had a good friend of mine on a hunt, the preacher at the church I go to. It was a North wind day, which have made dreadful hunting days out there this year. Definitely a South wind area. Cajunsorc said he was going to have a couple of clients with him that day. He would be hunting. No big deal. Had a spoon come into the decoys early and missed him three times. That was the only time we fired.
At one point in the hunt I saw a couple of specks coming from the West. They went in between Cajunsorc’s blind and mine heading south. I called at them some and they didn’t respond. They were looking over Cajunsorc’s dekes pretty hard. They didn’t do it though. After that incident I got a text from Cajunsorc saying he was really “PISSED OFF” that I was steady calling at birds that were working his set. I sent him a message saying “Sorry man”, and that was the end of that. I will try to work those specks from a long ways away, but if he has a problem I will stop. As long as the agreement is reciprocal.

Fast forward to two days later Snow geese working over my pond getting steady called at by someone in Cajunsorc’s blind. Steady! Also, a single duck came over my pond at about 50 yards. I could have shot and maybe killed him, but thought no, let’s see if he takes another pass. Duck went south to Cajunsorc’s blind and they killed him. This is the way things go out there. Cajunsorc has a more duckie hole than we do. That is okay, and I don’t think we are really hurting him if he has killed 400 ducks this year. Notice, Cajunsorc, I never said a thing about this until now. Reason is because I didn’t care until you made it an issue. Pertaining to duck calling at least, those birds are going to go where they want to go, I think, regardless of calling. You have 350 dekes and 7 spinners out. The birds are attracted almost exclusively to the set and not the call. Geese I can understand, as specks really respond to the call. I will respect that as long as it goes both ways.

Fast forward to Tuesday, December 20th. South wind morning with a frontline breaking through about midmorning. It started out okay, got a flock of teal in and killed 4. The ducks starting slowing down and the snows starting coming from the North. They were just on the edge of range, 70-90 yards. We hadn’t had hardly any chances on Snows the whole season, so we tried several groups. We did drop one, but were shooting at high ones. I will give Cajunsorc that, they were high. Think about this. By the time we started shooting at the Snows wind is blowing hard out of the south, the frontline is getting closer. The wind and Cajunsorc’s blind are at our back. We are shooting at geese that he says “were flaring their ducks”. Do you think the blind spacing is too close? Buyer beware.

I did call Cajunsorc to talk to him about it. I know we skybusted some. He never called me back.

Fast forward to the last incident which is an outright lie! I lost my phone on Friday, December 23rd in Morse on a goose hunt. I have one who can attest to it, and I have two that can attest to it who were in the blind with me on Christmas morning. I brought two teenaged kids with me on Sunday, December 25th. It was a hard North wind morning. Again, dreadful at the lease. Neither us, nor Cajunsorc’s blind had very many chances at all. One single duck came over kind of high that we fired on. The hunting was super slow, so I let the kids shoot at two flocks of blackbirds and some snipe. They also shot at a Crow. Again, hardly anything flying. I wanted to let them get at least some form of shooting in. I do know what Cajunsorc was talking about when he said firing the way of his blind. There was a crippled black bird to our South. When we got out of the blind we saw it and shot it, end of story. NEVER ,AND I REPEAT NEVER WAS IT IN RESPONSE TO A TEXT MESSAGE THAT I RECEIVED. I DIDN’T HAVE A PHONE!!!! REMOVE THIS PART OF YOUR COMPLAINT!

Another thing, the farmer has told me nothing about complaints being lodged on us. Nothing! Had he communicated with us we would have adjusted accordingly.

We won’t be renewing the lease next year, and I’m sure Cajunsorc isn’t surprised. Why? Cajunsorc has hunted his blind every time I have been there, save one. 14 hunts. In other words, they are always there. You won’t get a break from their shooting. What I have also noticed about his character is that he attempts to be controlling, overbearing, and manipulative of those around him. He kills plenty while still trying to dictate the actions of others. Not to mention, the lease was paid in full by us, not him. He also doesn’t handle issues well in my mind. We could have all sat down, Us, him and the farmer and had discussions in depth about what he wanted. Also, I know we aren’t perfect either, but come on, you could have at least tried to work with us a little more. You could have come and talked to us. Anything but this. For anyone that want’s to lease this spot keep in mind what you have heard. The other blind on the lease is far enough south that it doesn’t have to deal with the spacing issue. They seem like good people too.

cajunsorc and our blinds are too close for comfort. It will be difficult to satisfy both parties in the future.

P.S.
One more aside is that cajunsorc’s blind has taken many a high shot on the duck this year as well. Sometimes they cripple, sometimes they whiff. It happens, and is a non issue to us. Now it becomes an issue because cajunsorc has made it one.