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Old 04-06-2010, 06:22 PM
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The 15 trout limit was pushed but Politics and Money with NO written evidence!"

Absolutely without a doubt WRONG!!! I was there, you weren't. Biologist wanted to reduce it to 10!

Also, how can a conservationist be greedy??? Those 2 terms totally contradict each other.

W.....where is all this coming from right now???
I was there and i call B>S> The biologist said that reduceing the limit to 15 would not hurt or help the trout. What he did say was that reducing the limit to 10 would stock pile trout and increase the overall trout population and he never said he wanted to do this . Just that 15 wouldn't do anything and 10 would stockpile trout .
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I don't understand what is the problem with 15 fish? My god is this the only way you can feed your family is with speckled trout?
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Old 04-01-2010, 08:59 AM
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I don't understand what is the problem with 15 fish? My god is this the only way you can feed your family is with speckled trout?

I love the 15trout limit....... I was not for it but I agree with it.

Here is the deal! I talk with some guys who dont get on the internets and post things but they are out on the water 260 days a year! Now they talk about the samethings I said above! Nobody was pointing out one person or persons!

Chas said where does greed come in at.......Ok here is where it comes in...

TRIPLE TAIL. We don't know a damn thing about them! they only show up at certain times of the year. And with out any research or evidence......BAM that easy......we place a limit
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I love the 15trout limit....... I was not for it but I agree with it.

Here is the deal! I talk with some guys who dont get on the internets and post things but they are out on the water 260 days a year! Now they talk about the samethings I said above! Nobody was pointing out one person or persons!

Chas said where does greed come in at.......Ok here is where it comes in...

TRIPLE TAIL. We don't know a damn thing about them! they only show up at certain times of the year. And with out any research or evidence......BAM that easy......we place a limit
Contradiction abounds.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:18 AM
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"TRIPLE TAIL. We don't know a damn thing about them! they only show up at certain times of the year. And with out any research or evidence......BAM that easy......we place a limit "

MS & TX have very good data on triple tail. It is not LDWF fault they do not have the funding to study the species better. How is it a problem to borrow neighboring states data to help protect this fish until more data can be obtained? You say they only show up certain times a year. How do you know that with a limit protection on them, they might start showing up more, they might move further inshore to spawn like they do in other states. OR they might not....who knows.

Like MedHeavy said in another post somewhere. "man left to his free will, will decimate this planet and all of its resources."

I'm not understanding your logic?
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:19 AM
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Salty...

Give me your input on triple tail.? My input was I really thought they was going to research a little before. Slamming a limit in place!

Here is one limit I want to see in place...raise length from 12 to 14 inches on trout
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Give me your input on triple tail.? My input was I really thought they was going to research a little before. Slamming a limit in place!

Here is one limit I want to see in place...raise length from 12 to 14 inches on trout

Sorry can't resist,

then you would never catch your limit W.
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Sorry can't resist,

then you would never catch your limit W.


You just happen to beat everyone else to it.....
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Here is one limit I want to see in place...raise length from 12 to 14 inches on trout[/QUOTE]

I agree with w on this one ! I would also like to see a 15 trout limit state wide ! !
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:27 AM
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Here is one limit I want to see in place...raise length from 12 to 14 inches on trout
I agree with w on this one ! I would also like to see a 15 trout limit state wide ! ![/QUOTE]

I have a feeling its coming.

As far as tagging goes. It helps determine movement patterns and growth.

I tend to agree with W in the min size increase. The fact that it takes the males longer to grow to that size is what is holding it back. The fear is that at 14", you'd be taking too many females out of the breeding stock.
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I agree with w on this one ! I would also like to see a 15 trout limit state wide ! !
I have a feeling its coming.

As far as tagging goes. It helps determine movement patterns and growth.

I tend to agree with W in the min size increase. The fact that it takes the males longer to grow to that size is what is holding it back. The fear is that at 14", you'd be taking too many females out of the breeding stock.[/QUOTE]



so are you saying that this could have a neg affect if you raise the min size limit.

also what is ya'lls reasoning for wanting to raise the limit
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I have a feeling its coming.

As far as tagging goes. It helps determine movement patterns and growth.

I tend to agree with W in the min size increase. The fact that it takes the males longer to grow to that size is what is holding it back. The fear is that at 14", you'd be taking too many females out of the breeding stock.


so are you saying that this could have a neg affect if you raise the min size limit.

also what is ya'lls reasoning for wanting to raise the limit[/QUOTE]


Not going to happen......15 fish limit and 14" slot size. To many powerful guides that fish the East side to let this happen.
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I agree with w on this one ! I would also like to see a 15 trout limit state wide ! !


I'm all for it, Chas, but I don't think it will happen anytime soon. We got some powerful politicians on this side of the state that love them 25-fish limits. A 14" size minimum would be alot more attainable, IMO.
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:42 PM
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Give me your input on triple tail.? My input was I really thought they was going to research a little before. Slamming a limit in place!

Here is one limit I want to see in place...raise length from 12 to 14 inches on trout
Buddy, I would not know a tripletail if I saw one.

The only problem I have with your thread is the title: "Conservation or Greed"

I think the tagging program is a wonderful thing, however, it is not a law. Any of us that choose not to tag fish are not breaking any laws. Just because we choose not to tag fish does not mean that we are not practicing conservation. Now, here's the part I don't understand. By not getting involved in the tagging program, how does this display 'greed' on our part?
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Give me your input on triple tail.? My input was I really thought they was going to research a little before. Slamming a limit in place!

Here is one limit I want to see in place...raise length from 12 to 14 inches on trout


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My logic was simple... I made it in my post.....

More need to get involved in research and put some effort into more than a opinion
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Research = $$$
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Triple tail research...
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