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Old 08-22-2015, 12:20 PM
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The little church I get a chance to go to every once in awhile is not like that at all, there's no plat or donor box, it's about God!! Not to say I haven't been over there with tractors and a nail gun but never felt shamed into it, or for what I had on!!
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:29 PM
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Old 08-22-2015, 01:11 PM
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I have nothing against church and go a few times a year, I just believe I don't need to be in a building at a certain time every week to profess my love for God. I do so in my actions in every day life
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Old 08-22-2015, 01:31 PM
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I have nothing against church and go a few times a year, I just believe I don't need to be in a building at a certain time every week to profess my love for God. I do so in my actions in every day life
If I could of said it better I would have
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Old 08-22-2015, 01:25 PM
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Bet you have no ideal what it takes to get food on your table!!!
All the mega farms sale oversee, and the small farms are pretty much gone!! Maybe you by "all natural foods" lol that's even a bigger joke!! Oil,(rubber,fuel,plastic it's packaged in) free range eggs!!!
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Old 08-22-2015, 01:37 PM
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Andy I'm not here to argue with you. I'm stating truth. And all that stuff you just tried to slander me for could not be farther from the truth. I'm coming from a place of love. I am not here to convert you to my religion or tell you how to raise your family. I'm just sharing some biblical truths with you. I want to see you thrive and be the best husband and father you can possibly be. God wants to be the center of your life. And with God the center of your life, everything else will fall into place. Going to church doesn't save you. Relationship with God and trusting that Jesus is who he says he is does. Love you bro
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Old 08-22-2015, 01:51 PM
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Andy I'm not here to argue with you. I'm stating truth. And all that stuff you just tried to slander me for could not be farther from the truth. I'm coming from a place of love. I am not here to convert you to my religion or tell you how to raise your family. I'm just sharing some biblical truths with you. I want to see you thrive and be the best husband and father you can possibly be. God wants to be the center of your life. And with God the center of your life, everything else will fall into place. Going to church doesn't save you. Relationship with God and trusting that Jesus is who he says he is does. Love you bro
Very well said, and I respect you more now cause you said it, like I said earlier to each there own for what's best for them and there family. We in agreement here.
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Old 08-22-2015, 02:11 PM
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Andy I'm not here to argue with you. I'm stating truth. And all that stuff you just tried to slander me for could not be farther from the truth. I'm coming from a place of love. I am not here to convert you to my religion or tell you how to raise your family. I'm just sharing some biblical truths with you. I want to see you thrive and be the best husband and father you can possibly be. God wants to be the center of your life. And with God the center of your life, everything else will fall into place. Going to church doesn't save you. Relationship with God and trusting that Jesus is who he says he is does. Love you bro
Spot on.
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Old 08-22-2015, 02:13 PM
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Ones heart has to choose to see God. He can be right in front of you and never seen or he can be found in the simplest seemingly minute things if you choose to allow your heart to see him.
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Old 08-22-2015, 02:17 PM
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Ones heart has to choose to see God. He can be right in front of you and never seen or he can be found in the simplest seemingly minute things if you choose to allow your heart to see him.
BOOM!!! He's there all the time waiting and wanting you just have to seek him
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Old 08-22-2015, 02:36 PM
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BOOM!!! He's there all the time waiting and wanting you just have to seek him
Hence my belief. If one truely feels God in church they should go. If one says yeah I need to go to church but doesn't truely have their heart in it they should stay home. If Andy truely finds his peace with God while on his tractor I believe he is absolutely right. If Meaux finds his peace with God in a duck blind I believe he is absolutely right. If you find your peace with God at a church I believe you are absolutely right FF. Seek and you shall find.
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:38 PM
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I forgot to respond to the original question of this thread. I go to church every Sunday except during duck season. Then I worship The Lord by watching the marsh come alive with a couple of dear friends. Let me be clear, going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to McDonalds makes you a hamburger. What makes you a Christian is having a relationship with Jesus Christ period.... I go to church because I enjoy it and have made some great friends there. It gives me a opportunity to hear Gods word and learn a little more about the bible but it doesn't make me a Christian. Duckman is just as much a Christian and never goes to church (if he believes in Jesus which I believe he does). The only thing that matters is belief in Jesus, not going to church.
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Old 08-22-2015, 06:56 PM
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I forgot to respond to the original question of this thread. I go to church every Sunday except during duck season. Then I worship The Lord by watching the marsh come alive with a couple of dear friends. Let me be clear, going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than going to McDonalds makes you a hamburger. What makes you a Christian is having a relationship with Jesus Christ period.... I go to church because I enjoy it and have made some great friends there. It gives me a opportunity to hear Gods word and learn a little more about the bible but it doesn't make me a Christian. Duckman is just as much a Christian and never goes to church (if he believes in Jesus which I believe he does). The only thing that matters is belief in Jesus, not going to church.
You are right and I believe we are all right. Choose your path by faith. Help your neighbor and do no harm unless it is to protect yourself or your family. For those that may think I contradict myself my neighors are part of my family. I will defend them the same as the rest of my pack. I fear not the sheepdog beacause I am the wolf. I dabble not in the means of the shepard. For his flock is his family and he will defend it so. God has set forth a path for me and I will follow it. God Bless you all and do not beat your weapons into plows. They will be needed.
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Old 08-22-2015, 07:00 PM
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Andy in your original post you seem to be asking a question then making a statement to defend yourself...I don't think you ever have to go to a church...I am catholic and the way I see it you follow the 10 commandments all else falls into place...If it is for you to have to work then maybe thats the way the GOOD LORD intended it...I don't think that makes you no worse than nobody else...As for myself I go to church every sat. afternoon...I do not think I am obligated to go , I go to try and learn more about my faith...To be honest most times I walk out without a clue as to what the sermon was about...Before mass starts I open the book and start reading hoping to get some understanding from it...Once the priest passed by and told me I was on the wrong reading for the day...I told him I just open the book and figure where it falls thats what the GOOD LORD wants me to read today...As for keakar you need another church...I also pass the basket and at least half don't contribute and there is no one to frown upon them....My mother and father wanted me and my 5 sisters to have a catholic education and the priest let us all ,6, 1 thru 8th grade go to the catholic school without a dime ever being paid...There is a food bank at the rectory for anyone who ask's...But it does take a lot of money to keep any building operational....As for a dress code we have whats called the dog people,,,,those who train and field trial their retrievers in the spillway come in full camo and even hip boots and they are most welcome,,,,maybe one day they might bring their dog....The catholic church in winnfield up in north la. in winter is full of hunters in their camo coming in after a hunt .....
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:43 PM
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To answer the specific question asked, "how many times a week does one have to go to church to be a real/true believer (I take that as Christian). ZERO is the answer. The Bible does not say you have to go to Church to be saved. It says to admit you're a sinner, REPENT from your sins (that means turn away), accept Christ as Your personal Savior and "follow him". Then be baptized to show the world you have repented and given your life over to Jesus. Christianity is not a religion, it is a relationship with the Creator, and the Christ. The Bible does say not to forsake the assembling of yourselves. The early Church in Acts gives us examples of assembling together often. Nobody was making them go, they chose so that they could hear the Word of God preached, so they could be be with fellow believers and be strengthened in their faith, and so they could share with others about the saving Grace of Christ. They assembled because they gave their heart over to Jesus, and Jesus became their reason for living. So the question is not how many times do you HAVE to go to church to be saved and be a Christian, but what can keep you from it if you have found the truth of salvation for eternal life. What would keep you from attending to worship Christ with Christian brothers and sisters. Yes work takes us away sometimes, we travel, and sometimes we're so weary and tired we may miss every once in a while, but if it bothers you more to GO to Church than to MISS Church, then maybe you really don't think Christ is worth it and should admit it and move on. Same with any relationship, if there is not relationship, split!
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:12 PM
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live it, be it............then you are good...........

I love God, it's his "followers" that scare the hell our of me
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:19 PM
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live it, be it............then you are good...........

I love God, it's his "followers" that scare the hell our of me
Please explain since I'm a follower. I'll admit, I'm imperfect, and I'm a hypocrite trying not to be....but I guess I should not go to Church so I don't offend you or scare the hell out of you...
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:14 PM
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The thing about tithing is neat for me.........it's one of the areas of the Bible God actually lays down a challenge..........somewhere in Malichi........."test me in this".........

I have, and I have not beat him yet
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The thing about tithing is neat for me.........it's one of the areas of the Bible God actually lays down a challenge..........somewhere in Malichi........."test me in this".........

I have, and I have not beat him yet

Can you recall where it defines what a tithe is and why it was in place?

The verse in Malachi also refers to the storehouse, but in reality what was the storehouse? Why was it needed and who was it for? Was it for God? Does God need you to give him something he already owns(food and animals)? Does he need money, which is supposed to be the root of all evil and something that means nothing in the afterlife and should mean little during this earth age?

How much was outlined to be given, whether monetary or agrarian?


God has to smile more when you give to those around you instead of the brick and mortar business of church.






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Old 08-23-2015, 07:58 AM
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Can you recall where it defines what a tithe is and why it was in place?

The verse in Malachi also refers to the storehouse, but in reality what was the storehouse? Why was it needed and who was it for? Was it for God? Does God need you to give him something he already owns(food and animals)? Does he need money, which is supposed to be the root of all evil and something that means nothing in the afterlife and should mean little during this earth age?

How much was outlined to be given, whether monetary or agrarian?


God has to smile more when you give to those around you instead of the brick and mortar business of church.






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I agree.......however, no one group does more for the poot than the church.......none, nada......

While things are different now, there was a time the poor knew to reach out to the church.......

now I guess it's the government
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