I no longer support the wounded warrior project.

[southern151]

Originally Posted by ckinchen

If you guys find a good charity for these soldiers we can donate the saltycajun tournament proceeds to it next year, we are locked in this year with the Lake Charles Autism group (great organization) but next year we will rotate again on a two year rotation. We (salty Cajun) will not take one dollar from the event, we never do.
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I like this idea. That said, with no disrespect to any group, I'd like to see another tourney go back to St. Jude. For whatever reason, I have a very soft spot in my heart for their organization.

As far as having a mult-million dollar per year non-profit such as WWP, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone step in there as CEO as a pro-bono. Do I know what they deserve?...No. I've never had to deal with that much paperwork or money. I do know what it takes to keep my little business in operation and, I'm underpaid! LOL! There's a tough decision to make when it is who I can or cannot help. Like others have stated above, I look to the individuals I meet. I know that everything goes to them that way.

[Ray]

I stopped giving to the United Way back in the early '90's when the Times Picayune did a story about the New Orleans area lead having a chaufer driven limo to bring her everywhere she wanted and how much she was making every year.
I don't mind giving to the Red Cross after I see what they did after Rita. They came to Cameron, Creole and Grand Chenier and provided food and water, for free, until someone opened places to eat. But I only send money to them for certain disasters, not for general fund.
I give to my church and to family and friends before I give to national charities.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

most of my charitable giving goes directly to those in my church I see on Sunday's struggling..........

I am NOT in total agreement with the CEO's salary thing.
If you are a person running a multi-billion dollar orginization then indeed 400K to a million is not out the question.

I see this as really pretty serious. If you want to continue to have "community organizers" running multi billion dollar (or trillion as in the USA) then keep on complaining about the pay.

Want to know why we have millionares running for office? Because as in many cases, they person cannot build any amount of wealth by what the office pays.
So you come in as a bazillioaire or steal a bazillion.

there is no way in hell I would take on being president of WWF or Red Cross or anything similar for less than a million a year.

I hear what your saying, The reason's that i included the salary's in my decision is because they represent such a LARGE portion of that organizations administrative expenses. Many of the organizations listed with similar missions to the WWP return between .75 and .90 of every dollar donated to the vets (as compared to their ROI of .30) I do understand what your saying about if they do a great job then they earn that pay.

I'm sure there are plenty of retired highly successful CEO's who have one or two golden parachutes, and who would love to Lead an organization like the WWP and do good work with it.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by Matt G

Attachment 49386

Here is the audited financials for 2012. It's all hidden in the Statement of Functional Expense on pages 6 and 7. They make it appear that 80% of expenses is for project services, but that is done by "fudging" the numbers. They can send out a newsletter that is mainly for fundraising purposes, but because of the newsletter it is allocated between project services and fundraising. Look close at the total column on page 7. There is $140,728,895 in expenses and roughly $103,440,520 accounted for is REALLY for fundraising and administrative costs. That is 73.5% , which means only 26.5% is being spent for the organizations true purpose. A far cry from the 82.8% they claim. Not very efficient in my book.

Good find Matt....

Crap... that depresses me even more.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by ckinchen

If you guys find a good charity for these soldiers we can donate the saltycajun tournament proceeds to it next year, we are locked in this year with the Lake Charles Autism group (great organization) but next year we will rotate again on a two year rotation. We (salty Cajun) will not take one dollar from the event, we never do.
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Wow!

Way to step up Salty Cajun! You done made me sign up for premium now!

I am going to be keeping my eye open for any vet associations around the FT polk area that we can try and help out. Will keep all in the loop.

[flounder_smacker]

Ohmergaud

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by AceArcher

I hear what your saying, The reason's that i included the salary's in my decision is because they represent such a LARGE portion of that organizations administrative expenses. Many of the organizations listed with similar missions to the WWP return between .75 and .90 of every dollar donated to the vets (as compared to their ROI of .30) I do understand what your saying about if they do a great job then they earn that pay.

I'm sure there are plenty of retired highly successful CEO's who have one or two golden parachutes, and who would love to Lead an organization like the WWP and do good work with it.

Oh yea, I'm with you there.
I am not sure about retired guys wanting to "help" any more.
The current climate at a CEO level is so damn stressful, I see many wanting to move to the Islands, smoke pot all day and fish other than get back in the beauracratic rat race.

Today businesss world is chewing the big boys up and spitting them out ant that is when you ARE successful

[Lake Chuck Duck]

Originally Posted by AceArcher

Do you know any of these groups cutting out the middle men? would like to get in touch with them and see if i can help.

There are wounded warriors all around us. When we wanted to do a wounded warrior hunt we just got the word out. Somebody knew somebody and our guy lived just right down the road. You don't need to donate a bunch a money and get with an organization to make the day of a soldier. Just a little time and some shells and you can give that guy a lifetime memory.

[Sightwindow]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

Oh yea, I'm with you there.
I am not sure about retired guys wanting to "help" any more.
The current climate at a CEO level is so damn stressful, I see many wanting to move to the Islands, smoke pot all day and fish other than get back in the beauracratic rat race.

Today businesss world is chewing the big boys up and spitting them out ant that is when you ARE successful

Yep. The bottom line is, sadly, if you want an organized, energized organization you have to pay close to the going rate for talent that will deliver the goods. Those kind of people are competitive, driven and will not tolerate having workers around them who are not similarly talented and focussed.

And if you do a good job, especially the young talented underlings, the headhunters will beat you over the head with offers that are hard to refuse.

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by Sightwindow

Yep. The bottom line is, sadly, if you want an organized, energized organization you have to pay close to the going rate for talent that will deliver the goods. Those kind of people are competitive, driven and will not tolerate having workers around them who are not similarly talented and focussed.

And if you do a good job, especially the young talented underlings, the headhunters will beat you over the head with offers that are hard to refuse.

Yep..........

[Hebert]

acearcher...when were you fishing the james river for big cats? I was in Hampton roads from 03-07..used to love to catch them monster cats!

[paublo25]

What about HOW Heroes On the Water. I'm not sure if it has an actual non profit organization but I have helped with Pack n Paddle to bring wounded soldiers out fishing. Not sure if this helps but it was the first thing that popped in my mind.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by paublo25

What about HOW Heroes On the Water. I'm not sure if it has an actual non profit organization but I have helped with Pack n Paddle to bring wounded soldiers out fishing. Not sure if this helps but it was the first thing that popped in my mind.

I checked them out quickly, I am not seeing anything negative about them.... but they have not been around very long either.

Are they open to taking vets out fishing with gear other than kayaks? (not that i am against kayaks... you just won't catch my 275lb butt in one.. )

[Spunt Drag]

This is a CHARITY. A 7 figure salary is unacceptable. That's no different than a crooked preacher makin $750k a year off of the tithe. Don't think so!

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by Hebert

acearcher...when were you fishing the james river for big cats? I was in Hampton roads from 03-07..used to love to catch them monster cats!

Just moved the family back home to Louisiana about a year ago. Before that I lived in Maryland for the last 20 years or so, Have been chasing the big blues on the Potomac for about 10 years. My best on the Potomac went 56. The pic in my avatar is a small one of about 25lbs.

Went down to the James a few times for Tournaments, used to put in at Hopewell. Best i caught down there were some around 40 lbs..

If you could cast net up some fresh shad to bait up with it was on!!!! Had loads of fun catching those big fat pigs on the potomac. There were plenty of times that you were hard pressed to keep more than 1 rod out in the water because the action was so fast!.

as a matter of fact, now that i think of it... two of the times i went down to the James river was to participate in WWP fishing events to let the wounded vets have a go at the big blue cats.

[AceArcher]

Have sent a message to the Heroes on the Water organization via their facebook page. It looks like its an up and coming not for profit will share additional information here as i receive it from their LA chapter. It appears as though that chapter is located in the New Orleans area, So not sure what they will be able to do with Big lake............ but......


Stay tuned.

[paublo25]

I would contact John at PnP, but I don't see why they wouldn't be able to set something up out of a power boat. PnP did bring a group of vets out to Choupique bayou so big lake wouldn't be a problem at all.

[AceArcher]

Good stuff, have shot off a couple emails, will post em up when they respond and everyone can decide if they are the real deal.

[bgizzle]

Originally Posted by "W"

yes you are right....

I do still support CCA because it is all we have left to help with the coast

As well as future hunters and fisherman. Bring kids hunting and fishing. At the sane time teach them the reason behind the hunting and fishing. It's our only real way to conserve our marsh, fish, ducks etc. how we see fit. Our future and theirs in the outdoors is what we make of it now. Jmo

[Hey Ted]

Wounded war heroes puts on an awesome fishing rodeo in empire.