Answering the Libertarian argument for drug legalization

[Clampy]

Hey miss smalls. I really wish you would post what treatment site you are copying and pasting from.

[MissSmallAimsSmall]

Originally Posted by Clampy

Hey miss smalls. I really wish you would post what treatment site you are copying and pasting from.

The quotes I post were found through Google Scholar and the National Institutes of Health. These lead me to scientific papers published in peer-reviewed medical and health journals.

[Clampy]

Originally Posted by MissSmallAimsSmall

The quotes I post were found through Google Scholar and the National Institutes of Health. These lead me to scientific papers published in peer-reviewed medical and health journals.

How's this for scientific papers
Smarter kids do drugs more !


http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...-more-11-11-22

["W"]

Originally Posted by Clampy

How's this for scientific papers
Smarter kids do drugs more !


http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...-more-11-11-22

LSD and Meth heads are great chemist

["W"]

Clampy loves Pot!!!

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[Clampy]

Originally Posted by "W"

Clampy loves Pot!!!

Puff Puff Give.....

You got one thing correct.

[Clampy]

We can post counter acting studies all freaking day.
It boils down too should ADULTS be put in a cage for the use of a substance safer than booze ?
They answer is NO

As I'm sure W will point out again that weed is illegal.

[MissSmallAimsSmall]

"Availability of marijuana, which might increase if the drug were legalized, clearly has been shown to affect adolescents' use. Adolescents who have been offered marijuana are 7 times more likely to use it than are those who have not been offered marijuana. Similarly, those who report that marijuana is easy to get are approximately 2.5 times more likely to use it than those who consider it hard to get.

Some advocates for the legalization of marijuana argue that it is safer than alcohol. They suggest that increased use of marijuana by young people might have a positive effect if some adolescents switched from alcohol to marijuana (a substitution effect). This theory cannot be supported by recent studies on adolescent marijuana and alcohol use that incorporated the price of marijuana into the analysis. These studies conclude that an increase in use of marijuana by adolescents would result in an increased use of alcohol (ie, that the 2 drugs are economic complements).

From a public health perspective, even a small increase in use, whether attributable to increased availability or decreased perception of risk, would have significant ramifications. For example, if only an additional 1% of 15- to 19-year-olds in the United States began using marijuana, there would be approximately 190 000 new users." - Legalization of Marijuana: Potential Impact on Youth

[MathGeek]

From 1984 to 1996, the period during which Dutch prosecution of marijuana-related offenses became virtually nonexistent, marijuana use increased consistently and substantially until 1992 while decreasing or remaining stable in other countries. Among 18- to 20-year-olds, the proportion who reported ever having used marijuana increased from 15% to 44%, and the proportion who reported using it within the previous 30 days increased from 8.5% to 18.5%. Use among adolescents in the United States decreased steadily from 1979 to 1992. - - Legalization of Marijuana: Potential Impact on Youth

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

From 1984 to 1996, the period during which Dutch prosecution of marijuana-related offenses became virtually nonexistent, marijuana use increased consistently and substantially until 1992 while decreasing or remaining stable in other countries. Among 18- to 20-year-olds, the proportion who reported ever having used marijuana increased from 15% to 44%, and the proportion who reported using it within the previous 30 days increased from 8.5% to 18.5%. Use among adolescents in the United States decreased steadily from 1979 to 1992. - - Legalization of Marijuana: Potential Impact on Youth

False, completely.

Read the study again, or open you mind enough to look at all the studies on the subject matter (including those that don't support your opinion) Drug use only increased in the Netherland due to an uptick in drug tourism. Drug use among residents of the netherlands decreased. I have already linked the study substantiating that in the earlier pages of this thread.

[Clampy]

"There are currently over 1 million teenage cannabis dealers in the United States and almost 0 teenage alcohol dealers any policy that creates 1million teenage cannabis dealers is bad law"
- journal of common sense and reasoning

[hawgsquatch]

Originally Posted by Clampy

"There are currently over 1 million teenage cannabis dealers in the United States and almost 0 teenage alcohol dealers any policy that creates 1million teenage cannabis dealers is bad law"
- journal of common sense and reasoning

Two million registered sex offenders that exist solely because the government passed laws based upon Judeo Christian morality. What is your response to this. If it wasn't illegal they would not be criminals. So it is with all laws.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by hawgsquatch

Two million registered sex offenders that exist solely because the government passed laws based upon Judeo Christian morality. What is your response to this. If it wasn't illegal they would not be criminals. So it is with all laws.

Go start another thread with that mess you instigator.

22 pages is the limit, any more and we run the risk of melting down the ectoplasm in the overdrive protection unit on the salty cajun servers.

[Clampy]

Hey MG if you need advice on how to use a burn handle ask W.

[MathGeek]

Not safer than booze

Psychomotor effects and driving Cannabis produces dose-related impairments in cognitive and behavioural functions that may potentially impair driving a motor vehicle or operating machinery. These impairments are larger and more persistent for difficult tasks that depend on sustained attention The most serious possible consequence of acute cannabis use is a road-traffic accident if a user drives while intoxicated.

The effects of recreational doses of cannabis on driving performance in laboratory simulators and standardised driving courses have been reported by some researchers as being similar to the effects when blood alcohol concentrations are between 0.07% and 0.10%. -- Adverse effects of cannabis

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Not safer than booze

Psychomotor effects and driving Cannabis produces dose-related impairments in cognitive and behavioural functions that may potentially impair driving a motor vehicle or operating machinery. These impairments are larger and more persistent for difficult tasks that depend on sustained attention The most serious possible consequence of acute cannabis use is a road-traffic accident if a user drives while intoxicated.

The effects of recreational doses of cannabis on driving performance in laboratory simulators and standardised driving courses have been reported by some researchers as being similar to the effects when blood alcohol concentrations are between 0.07% and 0.10%. -- Adverse effects of cannabis

so cannabis affects your ability to drive in pretty much the same fashion as booze? okay... great deduction... last I checked no one is pushing an agenda here of let's legalize and let every one drive around while stoned out of their gourd.

[Clampy]

Yes we have established this. No kids and don't toke and drive. Jeez !

[MathGeek]

Not safer than booze

For over two decades, cannabis, commonly known as marijuana, has been the most widely used illicit drug by young people in high-income countries, and has recently become popular on a global scale. Epidemiological research during the past 10 years suggests that regular use of cannabis during adolescence and into adulthood can have adverse effects. Epidemiological, clinical, and laboratory studies have established an association between cannabis use and adverse outcomes. We focus on adverse health effects of greatest potential public health interest—that is, those that are most likely to occur and to affect a large number of cannabis users. The most probable adverse effects include a dependence syndrome, increased risk of motor vehicle crashes, impaired respiratory function, cardiovascular disease, and adverse effects of regular use on adolescent psychosocial development and mental health. - Adverse effects of cannabis

[Clampy]

Had weed killed anyone directly ?

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by Clampy

Had weed killed anyone directly ?

It's interesting that this question was asked before on this thread and, along with others, has been conveniently avoided.

Yet, our side of the fence has answered the questions that were sent our way.

The naysayers have had their butts handed to them for almost 20 pages now... Close this bad boy down and make it a sticky, the votes are in!