Thoughts on CCA meeting tonight on state of Calcasieu fishery

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by T-TOP

The oyster guy was informative, the problem is it takes legislature to change this. its been talked about on here before, the rep from jennnings tried to change this. He was met by heavy oposition (oyster fisherman) no one was there to support him on the changes and he changed the bill. For any change to occur it seems like it would take a lot of noise from people like the people that were there last night. I asked him for the people in the room that want change on the oyster harvest regs, who should we contact. He said our legislator is the one to contact.

Legislative pressure is a great idea, but I expect it to take a while to work.

I've begun to think outside the box a bit. Do you know that there are a host of new regulations that the oyster harvesters need to comply with and also that DHH has the authority to close oystering grounds for health reasons? One idea that has potential is to begin photographing and documenting the oystering activities, both to improve our documentation of the ecological damage done by the dredging and also to gather information and make reports regarding non-compliance with the regulations. If state officials give oyster harvesters a pass on non-compliance, I don't think it would be too hard to get the FDA involved to shut down non-compliant operators, and some other states are very eager to cite health concerns as reasons to stop buying Louisiana Oysters. There is real potential to give the local oyster industry a black eye on failure to comply with new health regulations. Give some of the new regs a careful read, and I bet some action items come to mind:

http://new.dhh.louisiana.gov/index.cfm/page/629/n/210

http://new.dhh.louisiana.gov/assets/...n_05102014.pdf

http://new.dhh.louisiana.gov/assets/...hure_14x17.pdf

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/news/37809

http://oysterlease.wlf.la.gov/oyster...tification.pdf

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Legislative pressure is a great idea, but I expect it to take a while to work.

I've begun to think outside the box a bit. Do you know that there are a host of new regulations that the oyster harvesters need to comply with and also that DHH has the authority to close oystering grounds for health reasons? One idea that has potential is to begin photographing and documenting the oystering activities, both to improve our documentation of the ecological damage done by the dredging and also to gather information and make reports regarding non-compliance with the regulations. If state officials give oyster harvesters a pass on non-compliance, I don't think it would be too hard to get the FDA involved to shut down non-compliant operators, and some other states are very eager to cite health concerns as reasons to stop buying Louisiana Oysters. There is real potential to give the local oyster industry a black eye on failure to comply with new health regulations. Give some of the new regs a careful read, and I bet some action items come to mind:

http://new.dhh.louisiana.gov/index.cfm/page/629/n/210

http://new.dhh.louisiana.gov/assets/...n_05102014.pdf

http://new.dhh.louisiana.gov/assets/...hure_14x17.pdf

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/news/37809

http://oysterlease.wlf.la.gov/oyster...tification.pdf

How many signatures on a petition to stop the dredging do you think it would take to get some attention? Along with the graph that we saw last night.... that clearly shows a decline.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by T-TOP

The
weirs topic was very informative, and they will work for what they are intended. To save the marsh behind the levee. The best idea I heard about access was the guy that asked about rollers or some form of access while the gate is closed. Cameron parish would have to pay for that, i think. There was a long member list of people that make the decision on opening and closing the weirs weekly or even daily. Kinda blows the whole duck hunter running the marsh complaint that gets discussed here a lot.

Don't see that ever happening. Too much money and liability involved. The guy next to me was laughing about that. Said there are too many people that can't even launch a boat, let alone lift it over the levee.

When I get a chance, I'm going to call Chuck. I've remembered a few questions I wanted to ask him about the management plan that didn't come to me last night. Something about those marsh figures and them moving to Phase 2 of the MP didn't add up to me.

[T-TOP]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Don't see that ever happening. Too much money and liability involved. The guy next to me was laughing about that. Said there are too many people that can't even launch a boat, let alone lift it over the levee.

When I get a chance, I'm going to call Chuck. I've remembered a few questions I wanted to ask him about the management plan that didn't come to me last night. Something about those marsh figures and them moving to Phase 2 of the MP didn't add up to me.

I agree,

[Reggoh]

I was hoping for more questions from some of our more vocal members

W... No questions bruh?
I thought you were gonna raise the roof up in here


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["W"]

Originally Posted by Reggoh

I was hoping for more questions from some of our more vocal members

W... No questions bruh?
I thought you were gonna raise the roof up in here


Sent from my fruity phone

Once I realized those people had no clue I just sucked my drink down and shook my head

Weirs were a Joke from the get go ... This was not a history lesson and "the management plan" is so damn outdated it's stupid

Like they said "Miami corp is biggest land holder -= big duck hunting money "

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by "W"

Once I realized those people had no clue I just sucked my drink down and shook my head

Weirs were a Joke from the get go ... This was not a history lesson and "the management plan" is so damn outdated it's stupid

Like they said "Miami corp is biggest land holder -= big duck hunting money "

Why do you think the management plan is outdated?

["W"]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Why do you think the management plan is outdated?

Did you hear the date it was established ??! Was it like 1970?

[OnePunchRex]

Originally Posted by Reggoh

I was hoping for more questions from some of our more vocal members

W... No questions bruh?
I thought you were gonna raise the roof up in here


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You haven't learned by now that W is all talk, no action??? He knows everything about everything and is smarter than everyone, just lacks the male parts to actually do anything.

["W"]

Originally Posted by OnePunchRex

You haven't learned by now that W is all talk, no action??? He knows everything about everything and is smarter than everyone, just lacks the male parts to actually do anything.

I did not see you there

O wait your the internet guy who hides !! Man your boy Adams was there waiting for you !!
Said we could watch

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by "W"

I did not see you there

O wait your the internet guy who hides !! Man your boy Adams was there waiting for you !!
Said we could watch

Burn.....

[slickfish]

Originally Posted by OnePunchRex

You haven't learned by now that W is all talk, no action??? He knows everything about everything and is smarter than everyone, just lacks the male parts to actually do anything.

10!!!

[BassYakR]

Originally Posted by slickfish

10!!!

Quackkkkkkkk



Choot em Waltrip

[Reggoh]

I did just ask about the outdated plan and commission meetings

Answer: no set schedule for meetings and their stance was the management plan was working until the Hurricane so they are sticking with it


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[Reggoh]

1987


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[Smalls]

So because it's 27 years old its outdated? Terrible reason

[Top Dawg]

Sounds like it went kinda like our meetings at the plant

[Tjethro85]

So, from what I'm gathering, they held a meeting just to hold one? Is anything being accomplished?

[Reggoh]

Originally Posted by Tjethro85

So, from what I'm gathering, they held a meeting just to hold one? Is anything being accomplished?

The meeting was to give information and start dialogue between fishermen and government

I think it was a good meeting... I learned alot... Wish I would have made a list of questions that you guys raised on here... I tried to ask a couple that I remembered

I did ask about the Trout assessments since 2010... Answer: that data is only published every 3-5 years


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[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by Tjethro85

So, from what I'm gathering, they held a meeting just to hold one? Is anything being accomplished?

From what I gather that's what they do. They hold meetings so they can say they did. No different from DU or N W T F. Just a bunch of working people paying dues to some BS club that claims to care about their concerns. Reallity is a bunch of people paying dues to fund elaborate fishing and hunting trips for the higher ups.