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Old 04-21-2013, 11:28 AM
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:36 AM
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I was a Marine during Desert Storm. I've had sons go to both Iraq and Afghanistan. I have worked all over the world including the Middle East and currently work in West Africa. I know a little bit about the realities of what is going on in the world. Have you ever served in the Military or lived/worked out of the US?

The reasons we went to Iraq and Afghanistan are as real today as they where when we went and he hasn't been President for over 4 years. I guess the reason we are still there is his fault? It's not so cut and dried is it. Do you know how long we stayed in Japan and Germany after WW2?

Again, I like the fact that he made the hard decisions and stood by them. THAT is what makes him a great President not the fact that he had a "red neck accent". Shock and Awe was a military tactic not a political statement nor was it ever meant to be one.
So I have to be a vet to be able to voice a view on how we go about policing the planet?

I respect your service and thank you an your family for everything you have done, I don't agree with how our forces are utilized though. Going in and whipping tail is how it's done, and every tree hugging liberal in the country was for it and happy when it happened. Sticking around to re-build these places and change their ways of thinking to ours is a losing battle, isn't it? And it's a waste of our money.

Bring our troops back and utilize them on our soil - let those idiots do their thing over there and kill each other off. If we have to intervene, do it from the sky and make a cloud.

Our military does not need to be spread thin across the globe, especially with a deficit like we have. Let those other countries take care of themselves!!!

Why do we hate the welfare state and blame it on all of our problems, yet when we provide welfare to the globe's slackers it's perfectly fine????? We can't afford to be Officers of the World, plus it does no good...

Staying in Germany and Japan and using that as a reference point doesn't automatically make it the right thing to do.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:20 PM
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I was an active duty Marine on 9/11. I watched the Twin Towers crumble on the TV in my platoon commanders office. I don't think that should be a factor in having a valid opinion though.

The invasion of Afghanistan was without a doubt the right thing to do.

I feel misled about Iraq though. The invasion was based on the pretense of WMDs but none were ever found. Sure Saddam was an evil SOB, but he was also an enemy of Iran and kept the region stable. It seems like a huge amount our resources were spent for a lie.

I still think Bush was a patriot and everything he did was based on his idea of what was good for the US, but I also feel that his advisers led him astray.

Our service members train every day to go to war and protect our freedom. They voluntarily place their lives in the hands of our elected leaders. I feel that it is our leaders' utmost responsibility to only use those forces in the best possible way. In my mind the invasion of Iraq was not a good use of those forces.
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:42 PM
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If they are in politics of that level, They care about two things money and power and they dang sure dont care about none of us .. They all suck but someone's got to be elected so you vote for the lesser of two evils .. I absolutely hate this but I believe it to be fact
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:59 PM
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Not great, just a whole lot better than what we have now. He didn't try to push gun control, he didn't try to redistribute the wealth, he didn't try to kill the oil industry, he didn't suck up to the Muslim world, he didn't waste our tax dollars with a stimulus bill, etc, etc!!! And he is a Christian and not a Muslim.
Yes, better than Obama. May want to look into Bush stimulus though...
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:05 PM
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Yes, better than Obama. May want to look into Bush stimulus though...
I guess I just don't think he was as bad as what we have now. Not great, maybe not even good but better.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:16 PM
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Bush was definitely better than what we have. But he wasn't good. And to throw him in there as one of the greatest presidents ever would be ignorant.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:24 PM
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I got a check from Bush's stimulis just like the other middle class tax payers. How much money has been given to middle class with Obammer? Granted Bush gave very little back to us that was ours to start with but hey at least it wasn't to big corps.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:36 PM
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I got a check from Bush's stimulis just like the other middle class tax payers. How much money has been given to middle class with Obammer? Granted Bush gave very little back to us that was ours to start with but hey at least it wasn't to big corps.
Agreed!! But it has gotten to the point that I don't like or trust any of them.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:38 PM
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Agreed!! But it has gotten to the point that I don't like or trust any of them.
This!!! They're all playing different sides of the fence trying to buy a vote. None of em got any balls now to tell it like it is and step on a few toes.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:47 PM
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This!!! They're all playing different sides of the fence trying to buy a vote. None of em got any balls now to tell it like it is and step on a few toes.
Yep!!!
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:27 AM
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If they were innocent why would they rob a convenience store, have guns when they dont have the permits, and get involved in a shootout while throwing bombs at the cops?
The same type of bomb that was at the marathon too... Not to mention the suicide vest the older brother was wearing.
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Mom and dad have "little Johnny" syndrom
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good thing those gun laws kept the guns out the bad peoples hand while punishing law abiding citizens.......................................... .......................................


Hey Libs it does not work. It does not work...wish I had a rubber stamp I could smash into their foreheads with permanent ink....Gun Control = People Control
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Go to Glenn Beck website and listen to his broadcast today.. These guys were already terrorist
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