Caught Cheating,,,spraybombed Truck

[fishfighter]

simplepeddler wins, he just LAYETH THE SMACKETH DOWN....ETH


this thread is classic, and that woman sure did a number on ole boys truck

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Since 1997, Louisiana has had a special version of marriage called Covenant Marriage. The intend and impact of Louisiana Covenant Marriages is that separations and divorces are harder to get. The legal requirements are found here:

http://www.ag.state.la.us/Shared/Vie...Type=3&Doc=206

A traditional marriage can be transformed in to a Covenant Marriage with some pre-contract counseling (faith based or secular counselors of your choice) and some paperwork representing a deeper commitment and promising to take certain steps to keep a marriage together before turning to separation or divorce.

Funny thing is, even through many men complain that it is too easy for wives to separate and divorce and rake them over the coals, less than 1% of men getting married since 1997 have opted for covenant marriage, and far fewer still have opted to have their existing marriages transformed into covenant marriages. It seems like many men are OK with being hitched, just not too tightly. Men concerned with divorce and separation being taken too lightly should consider Louisiana Covenant Marriage.

There are what I think four states now offering that......

Covenant marriage is for woman what woman see in prenuptuals..

It's gamesmanship on both ends.......I am not positive but covenant marraiges usually have an "adultery" clause......basically making it as easy to divorce as conventional marraige in the case of adultery......

We have a friend going through a covenant marraige divorce now........it's interesting that this we each partner's third marriage, they thought the covenant marraige would just make all their disfunction go away......no dice

People cannot give you what they do not have to give

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by fishfighter

simplepeddler wins, he just LAYETH THE SMACKETH DOWN....ETH


this thread is classic, and that woman sure did a number on ole boys truck

I think the woman who redecorated the truck gets the credit for the smack down. We're just arguing whether the husband deserved it or not.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

There are what I think four states now offering that......

Covenant marriage is for woman what woman see in prenuptuals..

It's gamesmanship on both ends.......I am not positive but covenant marraiges usually have an "adultery" clause......basically making it as easy to divorce as conventional marraige in the case of adultery......

The pre-marital and pre-divorce counseling are required even in the case of adultery. Word is that many courts are also honoring the longer time limits prescribed in the law in hopes of giving the counseling a time to have its effect, even if there are claims of adultery. In other words, they don't really give a hearing to the claims of adultery. They say, "Go get your marriage counseling and come beck in two years if it doesn't work out."

I would bet that by a time some fellow is crashing on his third marriage, the issue is most likely a deeply ingrained character flaw rather than women being overly tempted to bail out because the courts are going to treat her favorably. After all, already paying on two failed marriages, how much blood does the turnip have left? I don't think there's much society or divorce policy can do to slow down serial divorcers.

[simplepeddler]

after getting child support from two dads.....and now a third........could see it the other way.......

For the record....I could see the husbands truck getting pounded........can't see him loosing time with his kids.......

Yes......from my time......it now takes a year to actually get a divorce......which has leveraged those seperated to now commit the adultery........

But what it HAS done is.....gotten the counselors quite a bit more income........so they can now donate even more to getting thier favorite judge elected.....

[MathGeek]

I don't know how Catholic churches work, but I've been a part of numerous non-Catholic churches and one Messianic Jewish group and none of the pastors or counselors or rabbi ever charged for counseling (pre-marriage, marriage, or just live improvement). The wide availability of free counseling combined with the fact that there are only 100-200 covenant marriages in the whole state each year (and very few divorces), and I don't think this is any kind of money maker for counselors. I think becoming a substance abuse counselor would be a ticket to a more reliable income than depending on covenant marriage to pay the bills.

A 1-2 year separation is tough. One can choose abstinence, reconciliation, or adultery. Choose wisely, one will cost you much, much more than the other two.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

I don't know how Catholic churches work, but I've been a part of numerous non-Catholic churches and one Messianic Jewish group and none of the pastors or counselors or rabbi ever charged for counseling (pre-marriage, marriage, or just live improvement). The wide availability of free counseling combined with the fact that there are only 100-200 covenant marriages in the whole state each year (and very few divorces), and I don't think this is any kind of money maker for counselors. I think becoming a substance abuse counselor would be a ticket to a more reliable income than depending on covenant marriage to pay the bills.

A 1-2 year separation is tough. One can choose abstinence, reconciliation, or adultery. Choose wisely, one will cost you much, much more than the other two.

1-2 years abstinence. Anyone got a woman that can do that you need to divorce her now. You married the wrong woman.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

I firmly believe in equal justice under law. The language in my posts has been male in character because of a predominantly male readership. My view remains the same if you replace all the male language with the corresponding female language. Some Scriptures that speak on adultery are gender neutral like the ten commandments (Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5), and Jesus firm requirement that divorce only be justified by adultery (Matthew 19). Other verses have male specific language such as Leviticus 18 and Proverbs. Please read what Proverbs 6-7 has to say:

Warnings Against Adultery
20 My son, keep your father's commandment,
and forsake not your mother's teaching.
21 Bind them on your heart always;
tie them around your neck.
22 When you walk, they will lead you;
when you lie down, they will watch over you;
and when you awake, they will talk with you.
23 For the commandment is a lamp and the teaching a light,
and the reproofs of discipline are the way of life,
24 to preserve you from the evil woman,
from the smooth tongue of the adulteress.
25 Do not desire her beauty in your heart,
and do not let her capture you with her eyelashes;
26 for the prostitute reduces you to a loaf of bread,
the adulteress preys upon your very life.
27 Can a man carry fire next to his chest
and his clothes not be burned?
28 Or can one walk on hot coals
and his feet not be scorched?
29 So is he who goes in to his neighbor's wife;
none who touches her will go unpunished.
30 People do not despise a thief if he steals
to satisfy his appetite when he is hungry,
31 but if he is caught, he will pay sevenfold;
he will give all the goods of his house.
32 He who commits adultery lacks sense;
he who does it destroys himself.
33 He will get wounds and dishonor,
and his disgrace will not be wiped away.
34 For jealousy makes a man furious,
and he will not spare when he takes revenge.
35 He will accept no compensation;
he will refuse though you multiply gifts.

Warning Against the Adulteress
7 My son, keep my words
and treasure up my commandments with you;
2 keep my commandments and live;
keep my teaching as the apple of your eye;
3 bind them on your fingers;
write them on the tablet of your heart.
4 Say to wisdom, “You are my sister,”
and call insight your intimate friend,
5 to keep you from the forbidden woman,
from the adulteress with her smooth words.
6 For at the window of my house
I have looked out through my lattice,
7 and I have seen among the simple,
I have perceived among the youths,
a young man lacking sense,
8 passing along the street near her corner,
taking the road to her house
9 in the twilight, in the evening,
at the time of night and darkness.
10 And behold, the woman meets him,
dressed as a prostitute, wily of heart.
11 She is loud and wayward;
her feet do not stay at home;
12 now in the street, now in the market,
and at every corner she lies in wait.
13 She seizes him and kisses him,
and with bold face she says to him,
14 “I had to offer sacrifices,
and today I have paid my vows;
15 so now I have come out to meet you,
to seek you eagerly, and I have found you.
16 I have spread my couch with coverings,
colored linens from Egyptian linen;
17 I have perfumed my bed with myrrh,
aloes, and cinnamon.
18 Come, let us take our fill of love till morning;
let us delight ourselves with love.
19 For my husband is not at home;
he has gone on a long journey;
20 he took a bag of money with him;
at full moon he will come home.”
21 With much seductive speech she persuades him;
with her smooth talk she compels him.
22 All at once he follows her,
as an ox goes to the slaughter,
or as a stag is caught fast
23 till an arrow pierces its liver;
as a bird rushes into a snare;
he does not know that it will cost him his life.
24 And now, O sons, listen to me,
and be attentive to the words of my mouth.
25 Let not your heart turn aside to her ways;
do not stray into her paths,
26 for many a victim has she laid low,
and all her slain are a mighty throng.
27 Her house is the way to Sheol,
going down to the chambers of death.

Let he who Is without sin cast the first stone.

[simplepeddler]

Does that count though? Really?

I am not longer a practicing catholic.....they kick you out when you get divorced (no sharing in the eucharist) ..........but I did have the Precaena (sp) actually went twice before I married...cancelled the first date after the first pre-marital counseling......still did't pan out....

My question is.......will the court see pastors and non-professionals as legitimate counselors.......I know in my case it did not.......

The entire divorce (remeber it's a civil process) process is a huge money maker

Again......we are no fault state .......Adultery has no bearing on the amount of support one gets.......nothing .....nada........

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by simplepeddler

Does that count though? Really?

I am not longer a practicing catholic.....they kick you out when you get divorced (no sharing in the eucharist) ..........but I did have the Precaena (sp) actually went twice before I married...cancelled the first date after the first pre-marital counseling......still did't pan out....

My question is.......will the court see pastors and non-professionals as legitimate counselors.......I know in my case it did not.......

The entire divorce (remeber it's a civil process) process is a huge money maker

Again......we are no fault state .......Adultery has no bearing on the amount of support one gets.......nothing .....nada........

A party who has committed adultery should never get alimony. Who cares why.

I did some searches, and the Catholic church is unwilling for its priests to meet some of the requirements of the law to meet the legal requirements as counselors. It is too bad that the church and the legislature could not compromise here. There is a lot of court ordered stuff that requires different certifications, but my understanding is that the Covenant Marriage counseling requirements could be met by any ordained minister that was willing to discuss certain things required by the law.

Was your marriage a covenant marriage? If not, the court could make up any requirements it wanted for any ordered counseling.

[simplepeddler]

No.........covenant marriage is relatively new.........
I agree a party that commits adultery should never get alimony.....but they do.......quite often..but again adultery has no bearing there either......alimony is a little greyer than support. Alimony is a judgement on the mother's ability to have/gain/increase income.

The courts say that the children's lifestyle must be maintained.

Support is based on a formula that (and I am summorizing) states X percentage of total income is needed to raise a child.

let's play some numbers.......
Total income is 100K
Dad 70 mom 30
It takes 30% of total income to raise the children (it's a higher percentage for the first child and less for each additional child)

So 30K a year.......dad makes 70% so dad sends mom 2100 a month.

mom, because it's less........has no one to send money too.

now.......what I think is a great idea is to make BOTH parties put their share into a "childs" account and issue debit cards to EACH parent to spend when they have the kids.......and be accountable ........

It would be a great first move.
Spouse who get the child support have no responsibility to the payer as to where the money is going.

So mom, can .....as a single mom.......in this state .....regardless os Child support.......get free lunches for the kids........and get her nails done once a month with the rest...........ask me how I know

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

Let he who Is without sin cast the first stone.

Warning about adultery isn't judging or casting stones. It's like warning about gravity. If you jump off a building, it's gonna hurt. If you commit adultery it's gonna cause tremendous grief.

The fact that adultery leads to weeping and gnashing of teeth is etched into the fabric of creation, just as sure as jumping off a building leads to an impact with the ground with a velocity equal to sqrt(2 g h).

Adultery creates earthquakes in dimensions of creation that we do not see or understand and hardly even believe in. Right or wrong, those earthquakes caused one lady to redecorate her husband's truck. Right or wrong, those earthquakes bring about the consequences warned of in Proverbs as well.

Is it casting stones to warn youths not to play Russian Roulette? Adultery is Russian Roulette with all the chambers loaded.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Warning about adultery isn't judging or casting stones. It's like warning about gravity. If you jump off a building, it's gonna hurt. If you commit adultery it's gonna cause tremendous grief.

The fact that adultery leads to weeping and gnashing of teeth is etched into the fabric of creation, just as sure as jumping off a building leads to an impact with the ground with a velocity equal to sqrt(2 g h).

Adultery creates earthquakes in dimensions of creation that we do not see or understand and hardly even believe in. Right or wrong, those earthquakes caused one lady to redecorate her husband's truck. Right or wrong, those earthquakes bring about the consequences warned of in Proverbs as well.

Is it casting stones to warn youths not to play Russian Roulette? Adultery is Russian Roulette with all the chambers loaded.

Good point.

[Top Dawg]

FYI if the ole lady ever leaves me she won't see a dime of alimony. Regardless of what the judge says.

[swampman46]

Originally Posted by Top Dawg

FYI if the ole lady ever leaves me she won't see a dime of alimony. Regardless of what the judge says.

Lol...of course. First problem...delusion.

[simplepeddler]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Warning about adultery isn't judging or casting stones. It's like warning about gravity. If you jump off a building, it's gonna hurt. If you commit adultery it's gonna cause tremendous grief.

The fact that adultery leads to weeping and gnashing of teeth is etched into the fabric of creation, just as sure as jumping off a building leads to an impact with the ground with a velocity equal to sqrt(2 g h).

Adultery creates earthquakes in dimensions of creation that we do not see or understand and hardly even believe in. Right or wrong, those earthquakes caused one lady to redecorate her husband's truck. Right or wrong, those earthquakes bring about the consequences warned of in Proverbs as well.

Is it casting stones to warn youths not to play Russian Roulette? Adultery is Russian Roulette with all the chambers loaded.

So true..........but you are talking principalities..........not many people subscribe to that these days.............

[Top Dawg]

Originally Posted by swampman46

Lol...of course. First problem...delusion.

K...

[SULPHITE]

[Top Dawg]

Lol

[eman]

Fixing to make 31 years of marriage. I have always told my wife that If she ever decided that she wanted to have an affair to just tell me she wanted a divorce. Because there would be no forgiving or 2nd chances.
And i put the same constraints on myself because i could not expect forgiveness from her for breaking our vows we swore before God and our family and friends.