Answering the Libertarian argument for drug legalization

[MathGeek]

Truth About Marijuana Being a Gateway Drug - YouTube

Truth About Marijuana Being a Gateway Drug - YouTube

[cgoods17]

that video is bogus

[Clampy]

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[Clampy]

Brain surgeon > partnership for a drug free American.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFY6IgP...%3DcFY6IgPgyB8


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[MathGeek]

Marijuana
No sharing, stoners: Vet says pot can kill your dog

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword...et_says_po.php

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Marijuana
No sharing, stoners: Vet says pot can kill your dog

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword...et_says_po.php

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[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Marijuana
No sharing, stoners: Vet says pot can kill your dog

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword...et_says_po.php

The above message / link / video / snippet / etc by Mathgeek & MissAimsmallmissessmall can safely be ignored. For some reason
they feel that the way to continue this discussion, is to continue linking the same things that have already been refuted and proven false.
The individuals who debated this subject have no desire to continue flogging a horse after it's already been reduced to ground round.

Most meaningful discussion on this matter can be reviewed on pages 1-10, With some minor additions of new materiel on pages 10-20.

Everything discussed since has gone over the exact same content. If you want to find actual discussions based on scientfic studies, as well
as the results achieved you will find it in the first 20 or so pages. Beyond that this thread has been nothing but meme's and unvetted, biased,
non current / outdated cherry picked snips of studies.

This has been a public service announcement.

It will repeat with all future post's by MG & Co.

Have a nice day.

[MissSmallAimsSmall]

"The majority of cannabis-related admissions among youth result from referrals either from the justice or educational systems, and it is probable that at least some of these referrals were motivated more by concern over the future consequences of early initiation to cannabis use than by apparent negative effects of current cannabis use. A major focus of concern is the extent to which early cannabis use may increase the risks for escalation to other drug use and drug dependence. Stage theory posits that there is an invariant sequence in initiation and use of drugs, with use of cannabis preceding the use of "hard" drugs such as cocaine and heroin. This theory has been highly influential in drug policy debates and has provided a major rationale for sustaining prohibition against cannabis, as it is assumed that delaying or preventing early cannabis use may reduce risks of other illicit drug use.

While this broad theory has found some empirical support, such data on temporal sequencing do not establish that the use of one drug causes the use of drugs higher up the sequence. Rather, the observed pattern of initiation and use may reflect other factors such as availability and access. Nonetheless, several studies using event history analysis and regression analyses have reported that early initiation to cannabis use remains a significant risk factor for both the use of other drugs and experiencing drug-related problems." -Escalation of Drug Use in Early-Onset Cannabis Users vs Co-twin Controls

[AceArcher]

We are not even beating a dead horse anymore... we are just beating some stuff that vaguely resembles horsemeat.

[Clampy]

Social Objection to Ending Prohibition
“What about the ‘gateway theory’ that says all marijuana users go on to hard drugs?”
Fact: this theory has been debunked over and over. Read this excerpt from Drug War Facts for numerous Ph.D. research disproving the so-called “gateway theory.”
Conclusion: the so-called “gateway theory” is nothing more than an attempt to make people afraid of marijuana, a slander that it will somehow cause insatiable interest in consuming any and every drug. That is a lie, it does not cause a person to want to try other drugs.
What are the real reasons the so-called “gateway theory” came in to being?
Some people tried marijuana and found it to be nothing like the fear mongers claimed. Those people supposed the fear-mongers were lying about other drugs and tried those out of curiosity, not due to something inherent in marijuana.
Due to drug prohibition, the black-market controls the sale of all illegal drugs. Since drug dealers, like every other for-profit enterprise, seem to only care about profits, they have a financial incentive to steer customers towards substances that bring them greater profits.
- Christian's against Prohibition

This thread is a gateway to a headache.


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[Clampy]

Why on earth would you still want it to be a FELONY for youth possession. I'm for stiff penalties for youths but a felony would just disenfranchise someone at a young age effectively giving them no other option to live that lifestyle.

" why yes sir you are qualified for this job but it seems you have a felony for DRUGS when you were 17. I'm sorry we can't employ you"

Mandatory treatment prolly would be better but then they would do just like they do now when arrested. " would you like to go to rehab or jail " duh! Then they take those numbers and say " look at all the young people in treatment for for pot "



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[fishwater]

Gateway Drug hahahahah that's what loser say that blame everything but themselves being addicts.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by fishwater

Gateway Drug hahahahah that's what loser say that blame everything but themselves being addicts.

Right on brotha!

["W"]

Originally Posted by fishwater

Gateway Drug hahahahah that's what loser say that blame everything but themselves being addicts.

From this thread we must have a lot of losers and addicts on this site


Suckers are finding any excuse to make weed legal and excuse to use

[Goooh]

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[SULPHITE]

My first miller is a gateway to the next 11...

[southern151]

Originally Posted by SULPHITE

My first miller is a gateway to the next 11...

I "suffer" from the same "problem!"

[fishwater]

Marijuana should be legal for medical use all over the county. If you talk to people or know people with terminal illness and have been on every drug imaginable to stop the pain or nausea, and nothing works or it puts them in a zombie state, and then they try marijunna and it make their life worth living why wouldn't you want it legal. I lived in Co when they legalized it and we provided for people like this iand it changed their lives and made it way more comfortable. Drugs like Oxycontin and all that **** should be made illegal, it is is doing is ruining the youth of America, prion pills have taken over the US and everyone sits back and watches and does nothing but watch people od and go to rehab numoures times and they can not get off of them. Louisiana has such a closed mind on it, that it will never pass in this state.

[MissSmallAimsSmall]

"The present hypothesis suggests that these losses are in the areas of quantitative reasoning, analytic ability and the whole constellation of other cognitive-perceptual abilities associated with the field-dependent cognitive style. Marijuana might, thus selectively interfere, for example, with study of such subject matter areas as mathematics and engineering." - Marijuana and Perceptual Style: A Theoretical Note