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When I was young, drinking, and a union leader during a strike agitating the crowd I still had the sense to leave the area when the police told me "It is time for you to leave here on your own or we will take out of here. You have done enough."
Oh wait the police were there doing their job not watching as the mayor requested. Unfortunately the mentality of the nation is going down hill fast. It would be interesting to see what would happen if something like that were to happen in this area. A lot of CCP holders here. I do not think we would stand for our cars and property being destroyed like that. |
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Absolutely it could happen. Sadly enough the people that would take arms to protect their homes and properties would end up in jail before those gorillas in the streets would. And we all know this and would be hesitant to go out and do something about it.
And God forbid one of them assault you and you assault them back when their back is turned to you. We've already seen what people think of that. |
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It would be time to break out the long gun with the nice glass on top. That's why you should have a closet with a good supply of ammo. It could happen here, the body count would be unbearable for the rioting element. I don't care what color you are, you touch my property, you will spring a fatal leak. Don't ask me if anything I own is worth killing for, ask yourself if anything I have is worth dying for!
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At the end of the day, the guy that tazed the cop was still 8 steps away and fleeing when the cop opened fire on his back.
This happens so often it's sad! Sucks that resisting arrest or ruffling a LEO's feathers is now punishable by death without a fair trial, and the judge is the cop making the call in the moment. Last edited by Goooh; 04-28-2015 at 07:40 AM. |
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Sucks that we let a certain race run rampant all over this country committing barbaric crimes and we do very little to control them in fear of hurting their feelings or the repercussions we will see if we reprimand them. |
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preach it!
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We need to quit listening to all of these excuses for acting like complete idiots and start putting these idiots away. Not a supporter of the death penalty for people that are in custody and unable to harm the public but if you are endangering others with violent crimes, fires, assault, and whatever else all those idiots in Baltimore are doing we need to terminate the problem with extreme action. By extreme action I mean kill them.
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They are not protesting, they are committing war on their own land on their own people and property, if you make yourself a public enemy we should treat you like one.
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how long has this been going on, i haven't heard too much about it except from here and w&j this morning, guess i need to get out from under my rock
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This would be my suspect to answer geek's question on why he was not in jail. It's likely the local government had given him a break trying to do the right thing. the cops have admitted they made mistakes. Not trying to hide anything.......(on the surface)........ to the Bill O'Rielly comment that twice as many whites were killed.....it begs the question..........why not rioting for them? they were all justified shootings? Only blacks get to question athority? this has more to do with class envy and class warfare than "rights" and "justice"......... And we, as the tax payers are told we are racist, homophobe, selfish people if we disagree with the liberal message. the liberal aggenda of entiltlement is the backbone of this debacle |
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Either it demonstrates complete incompetence in the system not being able to make legitimate charges stick and keep a dangerous criminal locked up, OR it demonstrates a system with a propensity of a police department to ARREST suspects who fit a certain profile without real evidence constituting probable cause to justify the arrests and make the charges stick. If it turns out to be the latter, the Baltimore police have some explaining to do, as a pattern of unjustified arrests would play into a young man's propensity to flee further abuses of law enforcement power. If it turns out to be the former, I hope Baltimore can find the political will to do the thorough housecleaning necessary to make legitimate charges stick and keep dangerous criminals off the streets after they have been arrested over a dozen times. I won't deny that the liberal agenda of entitlement is part of the problem. But I think it would be short sighted to neglect careful consideration of the possible abuses of governmental power and incompetence to execute the legal processes designed to keep real criminals off the streets. |
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We will disagree here, but I respect where you are coming from. I have spent more than a few days in the criminal courts, and what I see is a mound of manuevring to allow criminals to go free. When I mention the "right thing" what I am referring to is what I see is the system giving some folks break after break after break. In our area, you see guys with 4 or more DUI's driving around...........keep in mind my grandfather was killed by one of these driver's while he was on his tractor for goodness sake. Another chance after another chance after another chance........all is does is empower that element of people to continue to game the system. So while you something that "did not stick" I see an abundance of aquiesence to an acceptble amount of criminal element in these communities. I would suggest that a person such as this runs from the cops more because he does not want to be inconvienced by the arrest. Maybe he will miss a late night 40 party or a bootie call. I for one do not take off running when I see LEO.........but I don't have a rap sheet. |
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Some people are offering a long arrest record as justification for Freddie Gray's death, but at some point, not being in jail with all those arrests points to a failure of the system, and it should be considered whether or not all those arrests were justified if so few led to convictions that he was out on the street. I have not been able to get good info on how many of those arrests led to convictions, but it seems likely that most of them did not, because he was still on the street. Maybe there was poor police work, maybe poor work by the prosecutor, maybe the best defense attorney ever. I expect some cominbination of the above.
There does seem to have been some poor police work on the day Freddie Gray died. What was the probable cause or the articulable suspicion for the initial attempt to detain him in the day he died? Without legal justification for the stop that day, the responsibility of the police goes beyond being slow to call for medical help and errors in their transportation protocols. What was the reason force was used that resulted in the broken neck? Without legal justification for the use of force that day, the police are criminally culpable for the death. Publicizing a long arrest record without answering the more essential questions seems like a smoke screen to hide the lack of justification for the initial stop the day Freddie Gray died and for the use of force that directly resulted in his death. I think any police department needs to answer these kinds of questions when someone dies in custody. At the same time, none of this is justification for the rioting, looting, and other criminal activities that some are participating in and claiming a relationship to Gray's death. Leaders in the community should make more concerted efforts to help citizens express and direct their frustrations more productively in ways that would increase police accountability without going beyond the kinds of passive resistance demonstrated by Ghandi and MLK. |
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"Video from the city's crime camera system from the morning of April 12 shows a man running down the street, which was the reason why police said officers pursued Gray.
According to the report, police wrote, "(Gray) fled unprovoked upon noticing police presence." Police caught up to Gray, and even though he was compliant according to their description, police put him on the sidewalk, handcuffed him and searched him, finding a small knife that led to his arrest and his fatal trip in a police transport vehicle. "They seem to admit that the only basis for the stop was, 'Man looked the officer in the eye and started running,'" said Billy Murphy, an attorney representing the Gray family." |
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if you break the law, you pretty much give up your rights, especially if you run from the law. our rights were earned by a lot of folks before us and i'm pretty sure they're terribly disappointed in us!
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I sure hope you aren't a LEO... Breaking the law is not a surrender of rights. If I'm speeding, do the cops now have the right to search my car without a warrant? I still have the right to be secure in my papers and possessions. Know your rights and don't let the police state make you think LEOs supersede the constitution. |
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