Weirs

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by "W"

Because last time they opened the weirs for 3 days the water never came out of the marsh ,it just went in for 72 hrs straight .

The marsh was already high salinity to start with and marsh was 3ft lower than lake

Freshwater evaporates before saltwater


That is why the marsh behind weirs is now higher than the lake

Well, he actually got something right.

But that has nothing to do with why the salinity becomes elevated in the marsh. Saltwater still evaporates, but it is not the salt that is evaporating. When saltwater evaporates, the salt just becomes more concentrated, thus you get higher salinities.

As far as your last post about the weirs, it doesn't surprise me.

You will never learn.

[Paulox86]

Originally Posted by "W"

Because last time they opened the weirs for 3 days the water never came out of the marsh ,it just went in for 72 hrs straight .

The marsh was already high salinity to start with and marsh was 3ft lower than lake

Freshwater evaporates before saltwater


That is why the marsh behind weirs is now higher than the lake

If the marsh behind the weirs gets is salinity from BL, then how could the marsh get more salty than the body of water supplying salt? Both areas experience evaporation at equal rates. If BL is supplied with more fresh water than the marsh, then maybe. But the gulf is also pumping salt into BL during incoming tides that the marsh does not get.

Anyone else willing to offer a theory?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Paulox86

If the marsh behind the weirs gets is salinity from BL, then how could the marsh get more salty than the body of water supplying salt? Both areas experience evaporation at equal rates. If BL is supplied with more fresh water than the marsh, then maybe. But the gulf is also pumping salt into BL during incoming tides that the marsh does not get.

Anyone else willing to offer a theory?

EVAPORATION ......

The marsh is like an enclosed lake, with just a very little in/out flow.

When the water keeps evaporating every day, the salt is left behind and the salinity keeps getting higher.

The water level in the Cameron Prairie [East Cove unit] has been about a foot lower that the average lake level for months now.

[redaddiction]

Originally Posted by Paulox86

If the marsh behind the weirs gets is salinity from BL, then how could the marsh get more salty than the body of water supplying salt? Both areas experience evaporation at equal rates. If BL is supplied with more fresh water than the marsh, then maybe. But the gulf is also pumping salt into BL during incoming tides that the marsh does not get.

Anyone else willing to offer a theory?

Simple high school physics explains it. Because the lake has more volume than the marsh. Equal evaporation but different ratios of water to salt.

Go mix a 5 gallon bucket with salty water. Pour some in a quart container. When the quart is evaporated down by lets say half, it's going to be saltier than the larger container. And the larger container will not have evaporated in half during the same amount of time.

[MathGeek]

Good management, especially when salinity is higher in the marsh than the lake would likely allow two way tidal flow and good exchange of both forage and water, leaving less salt behind the weirs at closing than when they were opened.

["W"]

What I'm saying Wed the salinity was pulled in marsh and was 16 and lake was 7

This is from good source

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by "W"

What I'm saying Wed the salinity was pulled in marsh and was 16 and lake was 7

This is from good source

Yeah, and I'm sitting on my couch in Prairieville and can find the same information. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out (sorry MG, lmao!).

[Paulox86]

Originally Posted by "W"

What I'm saying Wed the salinity was pulled in marsh and was 16 and lake was 7

This is from good source

What do these salinity numbers represent? 16 and 7 what? Parts per _______?


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["W"]

Originally Posted by Paulox86

What do these salinity numbers represent? 16 and 7 what? Parts per _______?


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Thousand

[jbert22]

Can't believe that people are so stubborn to believe that the control of the wiers is not for ducks It's a big money game

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by jbert22

Can't believe that people are so stubborn to believe that the control of the wiers is not for ducks It's a big money game

And what experience do you have with it that leads you to this belief?

I have heard this hear-say on this forum for years now, and not once has anyone provided any proof to this idea, not once has anyone provided a name or contact number for someone that does know. I personally know the land managers for 2 of the largest land-holding companies in the Cameron-Creole, and both are first and foremost concerned with the health of that marsh as a whole, and not just for ducks.

So, unless someone can provide proof to the contrary, I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Is the marsh managed for ducks? Sure, but only as part of the holistic management of the marsh. To say any wetland in Louisiana is not managed for waterfowl, especially given the fact that a portion of Cameron-Prairie Refuge is behind those weirs, would be false. But, to say that waterfowl is the ONLY driving force when there are guided fishing trips, alligator hunting, and duck hunting (among other activities) going on back there is plain ignorant.

[cajun dave]

When and where is this meeting on July 9th? Can attendees ask questions and comment on tne operation of the weirs? Would it do any good?

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by cajun dave

When and where is this meeting on July 9th? Can attendees ask questions and comment on tne operation of the weirs? Would it do any good?

http://www.ccalouisiana.com/cca11/in...eting-july-9th

[Tjethro85]

^^^cameron prairie, not Sabine.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by Tjethro85

^^^cameron prairie, not Sabine.

My mistake. For some reason I always mix that up.

["W"]

Smalls the head gate guy is the biggest duck hunter behind the weirs


I can't wait till July 9th to hear them lie when I bust there aZZ about duck hunting

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by "W"

Smalls the head gate guy is the biggest duck hunter behind the weirs


I can't wait till July 9th to hear them lie when I bust there aZZ about duck hunting

I asked you for his name months ago, and you never gave it to me.

Why is that?

If you could actually prove me wrong, I would admit it. But you always skirt my questions. Why is that?

[Duck Butter]

10 pages or bust folks

["W"]

Originally Posted by Smalls

I asked you for his name months ago, and you never gave it to me.

Why is that?

If you could actually prove me wrong, I would admit it. But you always skirt my questions. Why is that?

I did give it to you.... Don't remember now but look back I posted it


Again "WE" "Us" locals know it's all about duck hunting , you forget that 90% of the full time guides also guide duck hunting

We know !!! You can act like it's to save the marsh but that's like saying Obama is trying to save healthcare

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by "W"

I did give it to you.... Don't remember now but look back I posted it


Again "WE" "Us" locals know it's all about duck hunting , you forget that 90% of the full time guides also guide duck hunting

We know !!! You can act like it's to save the marsh but that's like saying Obama is trying to save healthcare

Nah, pretty sure you never did. Go look it up.

And if you did, why don't you post it back up? Shouldn't be a big issue for you.

In case you don't remember, I am from Lake Charles. I care just as much about that area as you do. Maybe more, considering I actually dedicated the first 2 1/2 years of my career to its conservation.

Contrary to what you believe, Waltrip, You aren't the only one that knows a lot of people that care about the resources.