Answering the Libertarian argument for drug legalization

[Montauk17]

Originally Posted by "W"

Would you want a guy in your company smoking weed? Would you allow him to smoke weed? Would you trust his judgment skills? ( Hey Dude whats up)


LMAO, im old school i guess and dont think weed should be legal in any aspect of the term!!

Would you trust your company if anyone drank alcohol or pops pills?

[Montauk17]

How did Marijuana Become illegal? Documentary - YouTube

How did Marijuana Become illegal? Documentary - YouTube

[Clampy]

No but there is a magic shampoo.

["W"]

Im sure every one of you would love to see your daughters (or sons) doing this

[Duck Butter]

W, do you ever drink beer on your boat?

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by "W"

Im sure every one of you would love to see your daughters (or sons) doing this

OMG young girls made the unbelievably bad decision of smoking something not as harmful as alcohol,cigarrettes, or possibly toothpaste.

It's such a shame that they are destined now to become meth addicts, whores, and generally shameful people. It's just to bad that they won't be able to form a coherent thought anymore. If only we could do something about it like legalize the product, regulate it, Thereby taking the money out of the black market which provides it to underage girls.... ahhhhh if only if only we could do that... but alas those things are impossibru!!!!

["W"]

Originally Posted by AceArcher

OMG young girls made the unbelievably bad decision of smoking something not as harmful as alcohol,cigarrettes, or possibly toothpaste.

It's such a shame that they are destined now to become meth addicts, whores, and generally shameful people. It's just to bad that they won't be able to form a coherent thought anymore. If only we could do something about it like legalize the product, regulate it, Thereby taking the money out of the black market which provides it to underage girls.... ahhhhh if only if only we could do that... but alas those things are impossibru!!!!

WoW Parent of the year=^


Rather see kids smoke weed than drink beer!! You need a great Adult Parent award!!!

[Montauk17]

Originally Posted by "W"

WoW Parent of the year=^


Rather see kids smoke weed than drink beer!! You need a great Adult Parent award!!!

You realize alcohol is a drug right? And the comment about drinking in your boat is BS. I remember a report you posted a while back. Said you got your limit or trout now you were working on your limit of these...and you had a pic of a salty grub on a jighead hooked to a miller light can.

[hawgsquatch]

Originally Posted by "W"

WoW Parent of the year=^


Rather see kids smoke weed than drink beer!! You need a great Adult Parent award!!!

Wow! For the first time ever I agree with W.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by hawgsquatch

Wow! For the first time ever I agree with W.

Hawg... I was very very clearly referring to the current system where these young ladies would be quite possibly doomed once it became know to law enforcement that they had rebelled.

I am not a proponent of selling weed to teenagers, I clearly responded earlier in this thread that I could not support selling of weed to teenagers, because they are the one and ONLY group (from 13-19 years of age) who have been shown through scientific study to have a long term impact on the growth of their brain if the have heavy cannabis abuse during that time period.

And honestly, "W" questioning my parenting skills, after he hasn't even answered my question on whether it's appropriate that cannabis based medication, scientifically PROVEN to help reverse alzheimer's should be allowed to be used to treat her.

W's approval is not something that i or frankly anyone else on this site, should use as a benchmark to prove anything.

Please note what i said in the post he is referring to " legalize the product, regulate it, Thereby taking the money out of the black market which provides it to underage girls.... " By taking the money out of the black market where drugs are sold illegally and legalizing,and regulating... you will severely impact the availability of the product to underage people who should not be getting it. Basically it's supply and demand laws at work. With sales to people of legal age going to government regulated shops, the availability of black market weed to underage people will drop.

See what i am getting at here? so please W & Hawg... Look a little bit more closely at what i'm saying.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by "W"

WoW Parent of the year=^


Rather see kids smoke weed than drink beer!! You need a great Adult Parent award!!!

Rather see this? By your logic, guns should be treated just the same. Lets eliminate the need for responsible parenting and taking responsibility for ones actions, and just ban everything that could cause an uneasy situation.

I could accuse you of being a horrible parent for having guns, just like you accuse Ace of being a horrible parent for even support legalization of a substance safe than alcohol. But, I won't, because I respect your opinion as a person.

Funny libertarians get accused of wanting a utopia, but in reality all these laws and rules that are meant to prevent pain and hardship are the attempt at utopia..

---BURKESVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A 5-year-old boy accidentally shot his 2-year-old sister to death in rural southern Kentucky with a rifle he had received as a gift last year, authorities said.

The children's mother was home at the time of the shooting Tuesday afternoon but had stepped out to the front porch for a few minutes and "she heard the gun go off," Cumberland County Coroner Gary White said. He said the rifle was kept in a corner and the family didn't realize a bullet was left inside it.

White told the Lexington Herald-Leader the boy received the .22-caliber rifle as a gift.

"It's a Crickett," White said, referring to a company that specifically makes guns, clothes and books for children. "It's a little rifle for a kid. ... The little boy's used to shooting the little gun."---

[bgizzle]

Originally Posted by "W"

WoW Parent of the year=^


Rather see kids smoke weed than drink beer!! You need a great Adult Parent award!!!

They difinately won't die from weed poisoning but alcohol poisoning kills ppl. Face it! You don't like it bc you were scared into not liking it. Nothing bad about it that's u but don't bash it and say someone is a bad person for doing it when they can smoke it tit for tat with u taking shots and they can drive and walk while if you took shots all night you couldn't walk, drive, or possibly not survive.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by "W"

Im sure every one of you would love to see your daughters (or sons) doing this

Nice work, this was taken while weed was illegal.... Smoooooooth

[hawgsquatch]

I have an idea! Let's register all of the drug users like sex offenders. It would be voluntary. Registrants would give up the right to vote, own guns, social security and medicaid, food stamps and any other public assistance. They don't need drivers licences and they are intelligible for treatment at Emergency Rooms unless they have their own privately owned insurance. Emergency respondents would be allowed to refuse them service. They would also be required to purchase their own liability insurance to be employed in any manner. In exchange they get complete immunity from any drug prosecution ever and free drugs supplied by the guvmet. Anyone currently in prison on drug charges could get out by registering. Failure to maintain a registration status once started would make the registrant subject to be hunted down for a bounty. Commission of any crime while a registrant (including failure to register) would be a mandatory capital sentence, and registrants would waive their constitutional rights to a jury trial. All trials and execution of sentence would be carried out by tribunal within thirty days of arrest. Anyone requesting commutation of a capital sentence could automatically receive such commutation by forfeiting US citizenship. They would then be "contracted" out to other countries as laborers, etc. The drug problem in this country would solve itself in ninety days.

This is a big government solution and I am in no way serious about it but I wonder how many drug addicts would sign right up?

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by hawgsquatch

I have an idea! Let's register all of the drug users like sex offenders. It would be voluntary. Registrants would give up the right to vote, own guns, social security and medicaid, food stamps and any other public assistance. They don't need drivers licences and they are intelligible for treatment at Emergency Rooms unless they have their own privately owned insurance. Emergency respondents would be allowed to refuse them service. They would also be required to purchase their own liability insurance to be employed in any manner. In exchange they get complete immunity from any drug prosecution ever and free drugs supplied by the guvmet. Anyone currently in prison on drug charges could get out by registering. Failure to maintain a registration status once started would make the registrant subject to be hunted down for a bounty. Commission of any crime while a registrant (including failure to register) would be a mandatory capital sentence, and registrants would waive their constitutional rights to a jury trial. All trials and execution of sentence would be carried out by tribunal within thirty days of arrest. Anyone requesting commutation of a capital sentence could automatically receive such commutation by forfeiting US citizenship. They would then be "contracted" out to other countries as laborers, etc. The drug problem in this country would solve itself in ninety days.

This is a big government solution and I am in no way serious about it but I wonder how many drug addicts would sign right up?

Do ut fir alcohol too... Oh, wait. That might impact you, never mind.

[hawgsquatch]

Originally Posted by Goooh

Do ut fir alcohol too... Oh, wait. That might impact you, never mind.

Better yet....new solution. Lets tie the tax rate to the drugs you want to do!

Booze is a big one lets tax people who drink a little.

Pot is about the same but we need to add a few percent for the future cancer cases....or just tax cap'n crunch 600 percent.

Cocaine, that's a rich white dude drug so smack them dudes up to about 25 percent.

Heroin...we can have a "Patriotic" tax because we all know its just middle easterners and Mexicans who make that stuff.

Meth....just tax Drano , bug spray, lye and Sudafed...el done o.

I am a libertarian. I hate all laws that protect stupid people from themselves. I just like messing with dopers and their burnt out minds and religious commitment to their chemicals. It's like shakin a monkey cage.....and the monkey is stoned, lol. I guess you might say you guys getting stoned entertained me.

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by hawgsquatch

Better yet....new solution. Lets tie the tax rate to the drugs you want to do!

Booze is a big one lets tax people who drink a little.

Pot is about the same but we need to add a few percent for the future cancer cases....or just tax cap'n crunch 600 percent.

Cocaine, that's a rich white dude drug so smack them dudes up to about 25 percent.

Heroin...we can have a "Patriotic" tax because we all know its just middle easterners and Mexicans who make that stuff.

Meth....just tax Drano , bug spray, lye and Sudafed...el done o.

I am a libertarian. I hate all laws that protect stupid people from themselves. I just like messing with dopers and their burnt out minds and religious commitment to their chemicals. It's like shakin a monkey cage.....and the monkey is stoned, lol. I guess you might say you guys getting stoned entertained me.

Where are the dopers? I don't even smoke, I can pass a test right this second and any day of the week. Hair, piss, whatever.

What the hell are you talking about, messing with dopers?

You are not a libertarian, go find another political affiliation.

[AceArcher]

Originally Posted by hawgsquatch

I have an idea! Let's register all of the drug users like sex offenders. It would be voluntary. Registrants would give up the right to vote, own guns, social security and medicaid, food stamps and any other public assistance. They don't need drivers licences and they are intelligible for treatment at Emergency Rooms unless they have their own privately owned insurance. Emergency respondents would be allowed to refuse them service. They would also be required to purchase their own liability insurance to be employed in any manner. In exchange they get complete immunity from any drug prosecution ever and free drugs supplied by the guvmet. Anyone currently in prison on drug charges could get out by registering. Failure to maintain a registration status once started would make the registrant subject to be hunted down for a bounty. Commission of any crime while a registrant (including failure to register) would be a mandatory capital sentence, and registrants would waive their constitutional rights to a jury trial. All trials and execution of sentence would be carried out by tribunal within thirty days of arrest. Anyone requesting commutation of a capital sentence could automatically receive such commutation by forfeiting US citizenship. They would then be "contracted" out to other countries as laborers, etc. The drug problem in this country would solve itself in ninety days.

This is a big government solution and I am in no way serious about it but I wonder how many drug addicts would sign right up?

I think it's a lovely idea... while were at it... let go ahead and ensure that this covers alcohol (because from an intoxication standpoint its about 10X potentcy of weed), Cigarette's (Proven to cancer, no reason to waste public tax moneys to support people who are using a product that's proven to kill a LARGE PERCENTAGE of users over time), While were at it... we really need to re-think bath salts as well..... can't have any civil liberties for anyone who might possibly go all zombie on us can we.

Dammit i forgot about glue sniffing... well **** there goes all the model airplane guys.. Wonder if they will still be able to build model airplanes in their drug utopia world.

[Goooh]

Do it for*

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["W"]

Lmao Alcohol is legal for ages above 21


Weed is not legal


You people are fighting a loosing battle


I buy beer at store


You by weed from a drug dealer ( Non Degree pharmacist )