Trump's first day as POTUS

[Baychamp1]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

Viable as in having the mainstream support of news channels and publicity?

No.

But he stands for more of my beliefs and my way of thinking. Just read about what the man did as governor of New Mexico.

Hundreds of thousands of American men and women didn't give their lives to secure my freedom vote for me to pick between the lesser of two evils. It would dishonor them if I DIDN'T vote for what I believe in, regardless of what kind of publicity the candidate receives.

Viable as in does he have a snowballs chance in hell, no disrespect meant, but no different than writing in Alfred E. Neuman

[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by Baychamp1

Viable as in does he have a snowballs chance in hell, no disrespect meant, but no different than writing in Alfred E. Neuman

Who cares? You gonna vote for someone you don't agree with just because they are "viable"?

[Dogface]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

Who cares? You gonna vote for someone you don't agree with just because they are "viable"?

I hate to say it but yes... If we don't unite behind the republican candidate we will end up with Hillary. A vote for a third party candidate is at best a no-vote and at worst a vote for Hillary or Bernie. And sitting home and not voting is just as bad.

[mcjaredsandwich]

Originally Posted by Dogface

I hate to say it but yes... If we don't unite behind the republican candidate we will end up with Hillary. A vote for a third party candidate is at best a no-vote and at worst a vote for Hillary or Bernie. And sitting home and not voting is just as bad.

"At best a no-vote"

See, that's where the problem is. Everyone claims to be tired of the way things are ran, but STILL vote for the same thing every election. No one wants to step out and back their claims up with their votes. At least I'll be voting for the change that I know needs to happen, not just voting along party lines for who is "viable". The Libertarian party would be viable if people realized how much it gets government out of the way and saves money while doing so.

Until more people grow the balls to not vote red or blue, This same conversation will happen every election at the local, state, and federal levels.

[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by mcjaredsandwich

"At best a no-vote"

See, that's where the problem is. Everyone claims to be tired of the way things are ran, but STILL vote for the same thing every election. No one wants to step out and back their claims up with their votes. At least I'll be voting for the change that I know needs to happen, not just voting along party lines for who is "viable". The Libertarian party would be viable if people realized how much it gets government out of the way and saves money while doing so.

Until more people grow the balls to not vote red or blue, This same conversation will happen every election at the local, state, and federal levels.

Show me a third party candidate that actually has a chance to win and I'll vote for them. Today it's more important for me to cast a vote that helps keep a democrat out of the White House. I don't like voting that way but it's the reality for now.

If there was ever a non establishment type that had a real chance to be President, its Trump. I don't agree with everything he say's but he is far from being apart of the establishment.

[Duck Butter]

Originally Posted by seachaser250

Show me a third party candidate that actually has a chance to win and I'll vote for them. Today it's more important for me to cast a vote that helps keep a democrat out of the White House. I don't like voting that way but it's the reality for now.

If there was ever a non establishment type that had a real chance to be President, its Trump. I don't agree with everything he say's but he is far from being apart of the establishment.

Devil's advocate here - We also get real tired of people that will vote Dem no matter what, but some of us all do exactly the same thing by voting a Republican just to keep the Dem out.

If you don't like voting for the lesser of two evils, vote libertarian. If more people did, you would really see change, and not change that is talked about. The majority of Republicans are no longer true Conservatives. They like to think they are but look at the voting records and the increases in government spending they are partly responsible for. They say one thing and do another.

"The right wing and the left wing are all part of the same bird"

[seachaser250]

Originally Posted by Duck Butter

Devil's advocate here - We also get real tired of people that will vote Dem no matter what, but some of us all do exactly the same thing by voting a Republican just to keep the Dem out.

If you don't like voting for the lesser of two evils, vote libertarian. If more people did, you would really see change, and not change that is talked about. The majority of Republicans are no longer true Conservatives. They like to think they are but look at the voting records and the increases in government spending they are partly responsible for. They say one thing and do another.

"The right wing and the left wing are all part of the same bird"

I'm sorry but until a candidate that actually has a chance to win is presented a vote for a third party is a vote that helps the democrats. Just fractures the conservative vote even further. That's not my opinion, that's logic.

One day there will be a real candidate by a third party that CAN win. This election isn't that day. However, Trump is that guy in a way(regardless of how you feel about him). He is not part of the establishment. If things go as they appear he will basically force the republican party to nominate him. This kind of change presents a good outlook for a viable third party candidate one day.