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Old 07-15-2014, 10:32 AM
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Wait a minute! What kind of foolishness are you speaking here? Almost sounds like something we used to hear about years ago-but totally disregarded today. I think it was called...morals and values? People don't even understand the meaning of that anymore. Not to mention, no respect for the marriage itself. We're living in a "forgive and forget" society.

we are talking two different things here............I am talking "post" stupid decision.........you are talking "pre" stupid decision...........

"getting what he deserves".............is judgement.....................

from a morality standpoint........only One will judge on that...............

play stupid games win stupid prizes is great for horshoes and checkers......but when a "stupid" prize is loose you kids, then........yes that is stupid...........

Being a crappy husband does not automatically mean you are a crappy dad............

You can be a crappy mom all day long and still keep your kids..........it's a flippin farse
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:06 AM
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Sorry but cheating on your wife, getting busted, and then pretending you are still Father of the Year is BS. You will always be the guy who cheated on mom. Over time he may forgive you if you work hard.

If you justify your cheating by saying mom was a crack whore or a btch or whatever then you have just taught your son that cheating is OK if his wife is not perfect in his opinion.

If the wife has a problem like that you get her help. If help doesnt fix it then thats between you and your religion if you want to get a divorce. But get the divorce before you start banging other broads.
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Old 07-15-2014, 11:24 AM
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Sorry but cheating on your wife, getting busted, and then pretending you are still Father of the Year is BS.
You are assuming that he is pretending to be "father of the year."


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Over time he may forgive you if you work hard.
So you mean his son may eventually forgive dad for cheating on mom by being a good father after the alleged cheating; which from your point of view, voids dad from being a good father? You just disproved you own argument that a husband who cheats cannot be a good father.
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:03 PM
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"getting what he deserves".............is judgement.....................

from a morality standpoint........only One will judge on that...............

play stupid games win stupid prizes is great for horshoes and checkers......but when a "stupid" prize is loose you kids, then........yes that is stupid...........

Being a crappy husband does not automatically mean you are a crappy dad............
Marriage is a public institution and a binding contract that is dissolved through a process in the public courts. Being a representative republic, the laws that govern that court process are determined by the legislature. Some attempts have been made in this forum to assert that the court process is in extremely unfair to adulterous husbands.

Saying that many adulterous husbands who lose most of their possessions and end up paying alimony and child support for a long time are "getting what they deserve" is not rendering an unbiblical judgement, it is taking the opposite viewpoint in a public discussion on divorce policy and practice in the State of Louisiana.

Adulterous husbands say, "The divorce outcomes are grossly unfair." It is not an unbiblical judgement to say, "They seem reasonable to me."

Adulterous husbands put the courts and society as a whole in the uncomfortable position of needing to make real decisions in policy and practice regarding division of assets, alimony, child support, and child custody.

They should not complain of being judged when their behavior is what led to the necessity of policy and practice in these delicate matters. ANY policy or decision regarding division of assets, alimony, custody, and support is in some sense a judgment. Adulterous husbands complain because they wish for judgments harsher on their wives and more favorable to them.

I wasn't born yesterday, and I did not just crawl out from under a rock. The idea that one can separate serial adultery on the part of a husband and claim there are not severe deficiencies as a father is ridiculous.

The adulterous husband has knowingly and deliberately broken perhaps the most important vow of his life, provided an example for his children of abominable behavior, given his wife and the law just cause to severely reduce his involvement in his children's lives, and most likely engaged in a long pattern of deception and lying to hide the evil behavior, destroying all real trust with his wife, children, and others he lied to. Is it a mystery to husbands when they decide to commit adultery that their family will probably be subjected to the judgment of the divorce courts as a result, and that the outcomes will be much less favorable than had the husband remained faithful?

This is not to say that relationships cannot be mended and restored and the husband and father cannot ever become a good and contributing father in his children's lives. It is to say that the road to progress is hastened and strengthened by accepting the consequences meted out by the court, resolving to make amends by wholeheartedly accepting the court's orders, and letting that serve as a proof and as a foundation that the (former) husband and (ongoing) father intends to do right by the family.

An ongoing wrestling match with the mother and with the orders of the court does not bless the children.
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Old 07-15-2014, 03:36 PM
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Marriage is a public institution and a binding contract that is dissolved through a process in the public courts. Being a representative republic, the laws that govern that court process are determined by the legislature. Some attempts have been made in this forum to assert that the court process is in extremely unfair to adulterous husbands.

Saying that many adulterous husbands who lose most of their possessions and end up paying alimony and child support for a long time are "getting what they deserve" is not rendering an unbiblical judgement, it is taking the opposite viewpoint in a public discussion on divorce policy and practice in the State of Louisiana.

Adulterous husbands say, "The divorce outcomes are grossly unfair." It is not an unbiblical judgement to say, "They seem reasonable to me."

Adulterous husbands put the courts and society as a whole in the uncomfortable position of needing to make real decisions in policy and practice regarding division of assets, alimony, child support, and child custody.

They should not complain of being judged when their behavior is what led to the necessity of policy and practice in these delicate matters. ANY policy or decision regarding division of assets, alimony, custody, and support is in some sense a judgment. Adulterous husbands complain because they wish for judgments harsher on their wives and more favorable to them.

I wasn't born yesterday, and I did not just crawl out from under a rock. The idea that one can separate serial adultery on the part of a husband and claim there are not severe deficiencies as a father is ridiculous.

The adulterous husband has knowingly and deliberately broken perhaps the most important vow of his life, provided an example for his children of abominable behavior, given his wife and the law just cause to severely reduce his involvement in his children's lives, and most likely engaged in a long pattern of deception and lying to hide the evil behavior, destroying all real trust with his wife, children, and others he lied to. Is it a mystery to husbands when they decide to commit adultery that their family will probably be subjected to the judgment of the divorce courts as a result, and that the outcomes will be much less favorable than had the husband remained faithful?

This is not to say that relationships cannot be mended and restored and the husband and father cannot ever become a good and contributing father in his children's lives. It is to say that the road to progress is hastened and strengthened by accepting the consequences meted out by the court, resolving to make amends by wholeheartedly accepting the court's orders, and letting that serve as a proof and as a foundation that the (former) husband and (ongoing) father intends to do right by the family.

An ongoing wrestling match with the mother and with the orders of the court does not bless the children.
I think you based your rebutal on a point that you missed. Just as many women cheat but the system is far more lenient on them.
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Old 07-15-2014, 04:10 PM
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I think you based your rebutal on a point that you missed. Just as many women cheat but the system is far more lenient on them.
You are correct...

Woman decides she wants a divorce for any reason, including because she has a boyfriend and has been cheating... its going to get ugly if she wants it to. The court will asign her domersary parent and the father will be visiting his kids every other weekend. all the while he is paying support and alimony. Why??? Because she birthed them and the father works to much... She has more time to be a proper mother(while she still boinkin the boyfriend)....

and there may be more women cheating on there husband than men..... get a divorce in your 30's or 40's and you will find out whats going on.

MG looking at the divorce court process through a womans rose colored glasses, glad he is not a judge...
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