Weirs

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by "W"

I did give it to you.... Don't remember now but look back I posted it


Again "WE" "Us" locals know it's all about duck hunting , you forget that 90% of the full time guides also guide duck hunting

We know !!! You can act like it's to save the marsh but that's like saying Obama is trying to save healthcare

He gave it to you. Go back and look.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

He gave it to you. Go back and look.

Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

I posted his name on a thread , I will find who he is again don't worry .


Also tell me why they opened the weirs Mermoral weekend for 72 hrs when the lake salinity was high and marsh was high and 3-4 ft lower than the lake

The lake flowed into the marsh all of those days so why did they open it??







I will tell you why! they are getting heat over the way it's mismanaged and more and more are putting pressure on them about trying to manage the duck grass for duck hunters !!


I can't wait for them to straight aZZ lie to the public July. 9th

[slickfish]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

This is also the same guy that says you can catch redfish using a car battery.

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by slickfish

This is also the same guy that says you can catch redfish using a car battery.

You can't? I thought everybody knew how to do that.

["W"]

Originally Posted by slickfish

This is also the same guy that says you can catch redfish using a car battery.

^^^ this is from the same guy who follows me around on an internet form and never has made one contributed post on here but has 200+ replays about me

Lmao

Duck ... Quack Quack Quack all I do us make you quack

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

Maybe you need to go read it AGAIN.

Post it up if you're so confident that he said it.

Show me where he posted a name. He didn't. He's bluffing again, like always. I just reread that entire thread. Not once did he say who was in control. He couldn't even give me the name of a public servant that he or his buddies talked to.

When did I say anything indicative of me "believing everything the government tells me"? I'm simply stating what I know from experience.

These guys managing those lands are just as much concerned with the marsh as a whole as they are with ducks. You don't plant smooth cordgrass for ducks. There's a lot better plants than smooth cord for ducks.

I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe someone is pulling the strings and having the weirs managed poorly, or at least not the way they are supposed to be. But I don't think its those landowners.

The thing that some people fail to realize is that leaving the weirs closed could be as bad for the marsh as opening the weirs when the lake salinity is high. It can reach salinities back there from evapotranspiration that are lethal to many plants. How is letting the salinity get out of control good for the marsh?

So opening those weirs periodically is just as important for the marsh as it is for the lake.

Why is it not being operates correctly? I don't know. I don't think anyone here does.

Man i'm not going back to look, but 100%, no doubt, he posted the guys name about 2 months ago in a thread out there somewhere.

Again, no one is saying that weirs run properly is a bad thing, we're just saying that they are not being managed correctly right now.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

Man i'm not going back to look, but 100%, no doubt, he posted the guys name about 2 months ago in a thread out there somewhere.

Again, no one is saying that weirs run properly is a bad thing, we're just saying that they are not being managed correctly right now.

I posted the thread that this "guy" was discussed in, and no, it was not posted. I asked him for the name, and he ignored me.

And I'm pretty sure the argument made by W for months has been the weirs should be left open all the time. So yes, the argument has been made that operating (or not operating) the weirs properly IS a good thing.

The primary purpose of the weirs is not, and never has been fisheries management.

[noodle creek]

Originally Posted by Smalls

I posted the thread that this "guy" was discussed in, and no, it was not posted. I asked him for the name, and he ignored me.

And I'm pretty sure the argument made by W for months has been the weirs should be left open all the time. So yes, the argument has been made that operating (or not operating) the weirs properly IS a good thing.

The primary purpose of the weirs is not, and never has been fisheries management.

There have been multiple threads about it, it may not be in that one. I know I'm not dreaming.

It is kind of beside the point anyway. Do you really think that W doesn't know who is in control of weirs? Is it impossible to you that maybe, just maybe, the person controlling the weirs IS a big duck hunter back there?

I'm over this argument, I never argued about your data and this and that. All I ever said is that they aren't being operated correctly as far as everyone can see. Also, protecting the land behind the weirs by keeping them shut is cutting off a huge part of our estuary's bait/food source. I understand the point of the weirs is to control land loss and not fisheries management, but it is hurting the lake. I guess it's one or the other, but not both.

Like I said, rock the ship channel and the weirs won't be such a big issue.

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

There have been multiple threads about it, it may not be in that one. I know I'm not dreaming.

It is kind of beside the point anyway. Do you really think that W doesn't know who is in control of weirs? Is it impossible to you that maybe, just maybe, the person controlling the weirs IS a big duck hunter back there?

I'm over this argument, I never argued about your data and this and that. All I ever said is that they aren't being operated correctly as far as everyone can see. Also, protecting the land behind the weirs by keeping them shut is cutting off a huge part of our estuary's bait/food source. I understand the point of the weirs is to control land loss and not fisheries management, but it is hurting the lake. I guess it's one or the other, but not both.

Like I said, rock the ship channel and the weirs won't be such a big issue.

No, it is not impossible for me to believe. But there is no proof supporting it, just speculation. I've searched, and there is no where on this forum that a name has been posted. So yes, I do believe that he doesn't know, because he won't post it.

You do understand the significance of that marsh to the estuary, right? Not trying to be smart, but a lake does not an estuary make. The lake, the marsh, everything makes the estuary. If the east side marsh is the lifeblood of the lake, then why would anyone not want to protect it?

I do agree that rocking the channel would save a lot of trouble. One layer of management is not enough for such a complex system.

["W"]

Originally Posted by Smalls

I posted the thread that this "guy" was discussed in, and no, it was not posted. I asked him for the name, and he ignored me.

And I'm pretty sure the argument made by W for months has been the weirs should be left open all the time. So yes, the argument has been made that operating (or not operating) the weirs properly IS a good thing.

The primary purpose of the weirs is not, and never has been fisheries management.

Like I said it was already posted !!!

Now say your sorry Mr "W"
I'm just a intern and don't know ****

[Tjethro85]

Originally Posted by "W"

Like I said it was already posted !!!

Now say your sorry Mr "W"
I'm just a intern and don't know ****

Boom Shaka Laka

["W"]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

Man i'm not going back to look, but 100%, no doubt, he posted the guys name about 2 months ago in a thread out there somewhere.

Again, no one is saying that weirs run properly is a bad thing, we're just saying that they are not being managed correctly right now.

I'm almost 100% also that I posted his name on a thread , I can't remember what it was but I posted it somewhere


smells worked as an intern for one year and now is a marsh expert on duck grass

But yet lots of people who spent there whole life in these areas are all wrong and don't know nothing according to smalls vertict

[Smalls]

Originally Posted by "W"

I'm almost 100% also that I posted his name on a thread , I can't remember what it was but I posted it somewhere


smells worked as an intern for one year and now is a marsh expert on duck grass

But yet lots of people who spent there whole life in these areas are all wrong and don't know nothing according to smalls vertict

Find it and post it up.

Intern?!? Lmao. Don't kind yourself little man. I wasn't an intern by any means. You will stop at nothing to try and push your point.

You have NOTHING supporting your claims. The one thing you "have" is a name for some "guy" that operates the weirs, which you can't post and I have not found any evidence of on this forum, and believe me, I've searched.

If you post that name up, that's all I'm asking, and it proves your point, I will he more than happy to join your "movement".

But the only other person that can argue anything scientifically on this ENTIRE FORUM, MathGeek, hasn't even said anything supporting your argument that it is being managed for ducks. Because, unlike you, MG doesn't base his opinions on pure speculation, but rather, scientific FACT.