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Old 02-03-2010, 10:01 PM
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Hi all,

Sorry for the intrusion, but I saw Jack3d mentioned here. I run this Jack3d site and want to clear up a lot of misconceptions in this thread.

1. Jack3d is NOT a prohormone. This will not mess with your hormone levels except for the fact that heavy lifting increases testosterone -- but that's up to you.

Jack3d is simply a pre-workout "nitric oxide" stimulant product. It does four things: a. Increase energy (from the stimulants) b. Give explosive 'pumps' (from the AAKG). c. Increase endurance (thanks to the beta alanine), and d. Increase Focus (again, the stimulants)

More details at this Jack3d Ingredients page

2. Protein powder consumption does NOT affect the kidneys. This is an old wives tail, and has been proven incorrect in the labs. See this Protein studies page for more info on that.

Now, if you're trying to gain lean muscle mass, a preworkout supplement like Jack3d won't do a whole lot (the creatine definitely helps)... it's up to your diet. The preworkout just gives awesome motivation.

So go for 1g of protein per pound of body weight if you want to gain muscle, eat enough meat, fish, eggs, nuts, fruits, and colorful veggies, and cut out the processed carbs and unnatural fats (sorry boys, but corn oil, canola oil, and vegetable oil are NOT good for ya).

Hope that clears things up a bit. Thanks!

Edit: As a note, I am not a USPLabs employee or rep. Just an outside affiliate.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:06 PM
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Hi all,

Sorry for the intrusion, but I saw Jack3d mentioned here. I run this Jack3d site and want to clear up a lot of misconceptions in this thread.

1. Jack3d is NOT a prohormone. This will not mess with your hormone levels except for the fact that heavy lifting increases testosterone -- but that's up to you.

Jack3d is simply a pre-workout "nitric oxide" stimulant product. It does four things: a. Increase energy (from the stimulants) b. Give explosive 'pumps' (from the AAKG). c. Increase endurance (thanks to the beta alanine), and d. Increase Focus (again, the stimulants)

More details at this Jack3d Ingredients page

2. Protein powder consumption does NOT affect the kidneys. This is an old wives tail, and has been proven incorrect in the labs. See this Protein studies page for more info on that.

Now, if you're trying to gain lean muscle mass, a preworkout supplement like Jack3d won't do a whole lot (the creatine definitely helps)... it's up to your diet. The preworkout just gives awesome motivation.

So go for 1g of protein per pound of body weight if you want to gain muscle, eat enough meat, fish, eggs, nuts, fruits, and colorful veggies, and cut out the processed carbs and unnatural fats (sorry boys, but corn oil, canola oil, and vegetable oil are NOT good for ya).

Hope that clears things up a bit. Thanks!
dont think anybody said jack3d was a prohormone but he is right diet is critical... now it doesnt mean you have to eat tasteless crap just be more careful with what you eat
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Old 02-03-2010, 11:38 PM
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dont think anybody said jack3d was a prohormone but he is right diet is critical... now it doesnt mean you have to eat tasteless crap just be more careful with what you eat
Oops... I got a bit excited there:

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Jack 3d is a must and maybe a prohormone like fenaflex or ddrol.
Yeah, you're right. My bad! Either way, the rest of the post stands.

Not into hormonal stuff myself. I HIGHLY recommend that if you're using prohormones, you do your homework (x5) and come off the cycle with some PCT (post-cycle therapy). Best resource is Jud's Prohormone Guide:
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... again, not my thing but be careful so you don't mess up your liver or T levels after you're done.

Thanks
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