Not a limit of trout but a limit of...

[sacalaitman]

Black drum...and a few sheepies
Caught them soaking shrimp. Couldn't buy a trout.uploadfromtaptalk1396098439482.jpg

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[MathGeek]

Well done.

["W"]

Do we have a black drum limit? I know we don't have a sheep head?

[Salty]

Originally Posted by "W"

Do we have a black drum limit? I know we don't have a sheep head?

Same as red drum.

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by Salty

Same as red drum.

Almost. The bag limits are the same 5 drum per day over 16" with a max of one drum over 27".

The difference is that with redfish, the possession limit (on land not while fishing) is two daily bag limits. With black drum, the possession limit is the same as a single day's bag limit.

I have no idea why you can possess 10 legal redfish (on land, not fishing) but only 5 black drum, but that is what the regulations say.

["W"]

Originally Posted by MathGeek

Almost. The bag limits are the same 5 drum per day over 16" with a max of one drum over 27".

The difference is that with redfish, the possession limit (on land not while fishing) is two daily bag limits. With black drum, the possession limit is the same as a single day's bag limit.

I have no idea why you can possess 10 legal redfish (on land, not fishing) but only 5 black drum, but that is what the regulations say.

What I don't understand is why we even have a limit on black drum..... I'm sure only about 3% who fish big lake even target them

Kill all them oyster eaten trashy things!!

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by "W"

What I don't understand is why we even have a limit on black drum..... I'm sure only about 3% who fish big lake even target them

Kill all them oyster eaten trashy things!!

We target them ... as soon as we have a limit of redfish in the box. We're getting pretty good at it. Anybody want any tips?

[keakar]

Originally Posted by "W"

What I don't understand is why we even have a limit on black drum..... I'm sure only about 3% who fish big lake even target them

Kill all them oyster eaten trashy things!!

because way back when the gill net ban and reducing limits because of overfishing bruhaha was going on they (GCCA) said drum had to be protected the same as redfish or the restuarants would quickly deplete the drum stocks as well by selling them as "blackened redfish" in all the restuarants. you cant tell the difference after its cooked.

they also said at that time the redfish limits would be doubled and the drum limits removed once the redfish stocks returned to normal. well the redfish stocks are at record levels of overpopulation yet they will never honor what they said to get those regulations passed.

im not a greedy fisherman but I dont hunt so I do depend a lot on putting fish in the freezer to make groceries or go hungry. many days I just eat potato stew with no meat.

there is absolutely no reason why they cant and they should double the red limit to 10 and reduce the size to 14" as well as remove all restrictions from drum. most people don't keep any sized drum anyways and I would much prefer 10 reds 14-15" long then 5 over 24" because the small ones are better eating.

they only know how to take things away they never give anything back by increasing limits on things no longer needing protection like reds.

[redaddiction]

That'll eat! Nuttin wrong with that.

[BeastMan]

What's weird is that LAhas the black drum limit but MS and AL do not have a size or bag limit on black drum. Many MS fisherman in west MS who mainly fish LA waters don't know that if they stay in MS, they can go crazy on drum. What makes it more weird is that MS and AL's redfish limit is less than LA but LA treats reds and black drums the same. One would figure LA had more drum, hence at least the same limit

[MathGeek]

Originally Posted by BeastMan

What's weird is that LAhas the black drum limit but MS and AL do not have a size or bag limit on black drum. Many MS fisherman in west MS who mainly fish LA waters don't know that if they stay in MS, they can go crazy on drum. What makes it more weird is that MS and AL's redfish limit is less than LA but LA treats reds and black drums the same. One would figure LA had more drum, hence at least the same limit

Back in the day, LA didn't want to bother to do the science on black drum, but they figured the life history was close enough to red drum that they could just set the limits the same and see how it went. It has worked well enough so far.

As time went on, the "blackened redfish" craze of the 1990s led to complete prohibition of commercial harvest of red drum, as well as prohibition of sporting take in federal waters. Black Drum, on the other hand, became popular marketed as imitation crab, and Louisiana has an annual commercial quota of 3.25 million pounds (16-27") and 300,000 fish over 27". There are some commercial fishers on and around Big Lake who run trot lines and catch thousands of pounds. I suspect a combination of this industry and historical momentum is why the recreational limits remain unchanged. These commercial fishers would likely complain to loosening or removing recreational limits on black drum unless their quota was also removed.

Black drum are also a popular catch among certain ethnic groups. Tightening up the limit on recreational fishers would probably be perceived as racism.

Personally, I think that LDWF will eventually realize that the marketable value of black drum is nowhere near the value of the oysters it takes to produce them (black drum eat a lot of oysters) and the loss of ecosystem services provided by valuable oyster reef habitats. Black drum should have a bounty, not a limit.

[sacalaitman]

Yea they normally get tossed back but that was the only thing biting. Heard my spring time trout hole "froze" over. Sure seems like it cuz I haven't caught or seen a trout yet.

[bgizzle]

I'd eat a16-19" black drum any day of the week! They are better IMO than a 24+ inch red. The rest are trashy! But them slots are classy


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[ronniem]

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did yall catch those out of MC? Nice haul


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[Clampy]

Who cares really. There are great places for big trout in La and TX.
La got the reds down.
No one cares about gafttop


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