you were complaing about 15 fish limit

[youmyboyblue]

http://www.louisianasportsman.com/details.php?id=6683

[southern151]

This oughta be good!

[AubreyLaHaye458]

Why just the western side of the state?! That's real BS.


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[meaux fishing]

Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458

Why just the western side of the state?! That's real BS.


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because will drost said so...

[Montauk17]

Originally Posted by meaux fishing

because will drost said so...

The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries will present data to its regulatory board on Thursday that could impact recreational-fishing limits on speckled trout and redfish.

Part of the agenda for the monthly meeting of the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission calls for a "discussion on what effects changes to the current management regulations will have on red-drum and spotted-sea-trout stocks."

The item was added to the agenda at the request of two commissioners, according to Randy Pausina, assistant secretary for the department.

Pausina said he had received a request from commissioner Will Drost for information about the health of speckled trout stocks in the state, in light of Texas' recent decision to reduce daily creel limits to five speckled trout along a large section of its coast.

The department manages speckled trout by monitoring spawning potential ratio, which is a number that indicates how abundant a fish stock is compared to estimates of what the population would be if that particular stock were unfished.

The last time the department calculated SPR was in 2011, and it was found to be between 8 and 14 percent, biologist Harry Blanchet told NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune in 2013. That number is substantially below the 18 percent that stood for many years as the conservation standard.

Interpreted biological data has barely trickled from the department since 2010 because of the state's ongoing litigation with BP after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. State lawyers have clamped down on the flow of information for fear of weakening the state's case.

But Drost said he wants to know, among other things, where SPR stands today.

"I know that they'll give me the picture that I ask for as a commissioner," he said. "I want to know everything there is to know.

"I feel like it's our responsibility to properly manage the most important species in our state. I think we're currently managing it properly, but it's an ongoing job. It never ends."

The discussion of potentially changing redfish regulations was precipitated by requests from commissioner Ann Taylor, according to Pausina.

"She was receiving some feedback about red drum," he said. "With this hard and long winter, there was a lot of redfish up in canals and bayous, and people were catching a lot of fish that were an inch or two under the 16-inch limit, which created some problems for some people. (Taylor) wanted to know if we could look at dropping the size limit."

Redfish, Pausina said, are managed by looking at escapement, which is the percentage of juvenile fish that mature and "escape" the interior marshes.

At Thursday's meeting, the department will present the commission with some biological data and then seek guidance on how to proceed. Biologists will then rerun the numbers to show how management changes would impact populations.

"Depending on how they want to move those numbers around, we can calculate the change, and it will allow commissioners to make an intelligent decision," Pausina said.

That needs to be done before any regulation changes are made, according to Pausina, because alterations for social reasons in the past have had negative consequences.

"Some of these decisions are not biologically based," he said. "If you want to go with a more conservative limit on spotted sea trout, common sense tells you you're going to positively affect the population numbers, but that could be counterproductive. You may have overpopulation or you may be just leaving fish on the table that will just die or Flipper will eat them or whatever."

Based on the guidance the department gets from the commission, they'll rerun the numbers showing how the regulation changes will impact the stocks, and then they'll report back to the commission. Pausina said they'd likely have the trout stock assessment done by August and the redfish assessment complete by September.

Drost said most anglers in Southwest Louisiana fully support the special regulations in that area for speckled trout. Anglers in the rest of the state may harvest up to 25 speckled trout each per day, with a minimum length limit of 12 inches. In Southwest Louisiana, however, the daily limit is 15 fish with an angler allowed to harvest no more than two measuring more than 25 inches.

If anything, anglers in that part of the state are alarmed about how increased pressure is impacting the fishery there, Drost said.

"Some people have a concern about the increase in guides on Calcasieu from out of state," he said. "That middle coast of Texas went to a five-fish limit, and we've seen a lot of guides now set up shop on Calcasieu, so we're seeing increased pressure, especially in the wintertime for trophy trout."

But Drost said he has no agenda to further decrease limits in the area unless it is deemed necessary through this process.

"I'm merely asking what the latest data shows," he said. "I've not seen the latest data. I have no ultimate goal here. I just want to be aware of what our options are."

[Capt.B]

Originally Posted by Montauk17

The Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries will present data to its regulatory board on Thursday that could impact recreational-fishing limits on speckled trout and redfish.

Part of the agenda for the monthly meeting of the Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission calls for a "discussion on what effects changes to the current management regulations will have on red-drum and spotted-sea-trout stocks."

The item was added to the agenda at the request of two commissioners, according to Randy Pausina, assistant secretary for the department.

Pausina said he had received a request from commissioner Will Drost for information about the health of speckled trout stocks in the state, in light of Texas' recent decision to reduce daily creel limits to five speckled trout along a large section of its coast.

The department manages speckled trout by monitoring spawning potential ratio, which is a number that indicates how abundant a fish stock is compared to estimates of what the population would be if that particular stock were unfished.

The last time the department calculated SPR was in 2011, and it was found to be between 8 and 14 percent, biologist Harry Blanchet told NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune in 2013. That number is substantially below the 18 percent that stood for many years as the conservation standard.

Interpreted biological data has barely trickled from the department since 2010 because of the state's ongoing litigation with BP after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. State lawyers have clamped down on the flow of information for fear of weakening the state's case.

But Drost said he wants to know, among other things, where SPR stands today.

"I know that they'll give me the picture that I ask for as a commissioner," he said. "I want to know everything there is to know.

"I feel like it's our responsibility to properly manage the most important species in our state. I think we're currently managing it properly, but it's an ongoing job. It never ends."

The discussion of potentially changing redfish regulations was precipitated by requests from commissioner Ann Taylor, according to Pausina.

"She was receiving some feedback about red drum," he said. "With this hard and long winter, there was a lot of redfish up in canals and bayous, and people were catching a lot of fish that were an inch or two under the 16-inch limit, which created some problems for some people. (Taylor) wanted to know if we could look at dropping the size limit."

Redfish, Pausina said, are managed by looking at escapement, which is the percentage of juvenile fish that mature and "escape" the interior marshes.

At Thursday's meeting, the department will present the commission with some biological data and then seek guidance on how to proceed. Biologists will then rerun the numbers to show how management changes would impact populations.

"Depending on how they want to move those numbers around, we can calculate the change, and it will allow commissioners to make an intelligent decision," Pausina said.

That needs to be done before any regulation changes are made, according to Pausina, because alterations for social reasons in the past have had negative consequences.

"Some of these decisions are not biologically based," he said. "If you want to go with a more conservative limit on spotted sea trout, common sense tells you you're going to positively affect the population numbers, but that could be counterproductive. You may have overpopulation or you may be just leaving fish on the table that will just die or Flipper will eat them or whatever."

Based on the guidance the department gets from the commission, they'll rerun the numbers showing how the regulation changes will impact the stocks, and then they'll report back to the commission. Pausina said they'd likely have the trout stock assessment done by August and the redfish assessment complete by September.

Drost said most anglers in Southwest Louisiana fully support the special regulations in that area for speckled trout. Anglers in the rest of the state may harvest up to 25 speckled trout each per day, with a minimum length limit of 12 inches. In Southwest Louisiana, however, the daily limit is 15 fish with an angler allowed to harvest no more than two measuring more than 25 inches.

If anything, anglers in that part of the state are alarmed about how increased pressure is impacting the fishery there, Drost said.

"Some people have a concern about the increase in guides on Calcasieu from out of state," he said. "That middle coast of Texas went to a five-fish limit, and we've seen a lot of guides now set up shop on Calcasieu, so we're seeing increased pressure, especially in the wintertime for trophy trout."

But Drost said he has no agenda to further decrease limits in the area unless it is deemed necessary through this process.

"I'm merely asking what the latest data shows," he said. "I've not seen the latest data. I have no ultimate goal here. I just want to be aware of what our options are."

Mr Drost needs to worry more abt the eco-system than a certain species that interest his self personally....this will be his 3rd motion to move with out research......2 motions were due to pics on the web.....so is he looking out for the well being of Big lake....or is he just jealous???? HUMMMMMM???????

["W"]

Originally Posted by Capt.B

Mr Drost needs to worry more abt the eco-system than a certain species that interest his self personally....this will be his 3rd motion to move with out research......2 motions were due to pics on the web.....so is he looking out for the well being of Big lake....or is he just jealous???? HUMMMMMM???????

He don't want the Texas guides to have free rights to fish on his lake and catch the endangered speckle trout of big lake

["W"]

" because we have more liberal regulations "

you bet your azz Will Drost is behind this

["W"]

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[TarponTom]

Hearing internal debate on Specks at LaWLF being discussed from 25 per day to between 10-15 for trout with possible restrictions on max size kept. Redfish from 5 to 3 per day with none over 33 inches also floated internally. Look for restrictions on other species as well flounder, white trout, tripletail, even croaker in the near future. Supposedly forage base (cocahoes, menhaden, etc) significantly declined in numbers in Eastern Louisiana from the oil spill along with the near loss of the 2010 spawn for many species.

Sadly I'm hearing the various internal state fisheries research projects funded by BP to study the impact on our fisheries (out of public purview due to BP litigation) is not good news for anglers across Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. I've heard the spawning ratio "SPR" in some parts of the state have fallen to levels in the low single digits versus the optimal number of 18 SPR.

[kb7722]

Originally Posted by TarponTom

Hearing internal debate on Specks at LaWLF being discussed from 25 per day to between 10-15 for trout with possible restrictions on max size kept. Redfish from 5 to 3 per day with none over 33 inches also floated internally. Look for restrictions on other species as well flounder, white trout, tripletail, even croaker in the near future. Supposedly forage base (cocahoes, menhaden, etc) significantly declined in numbers in Eastern Louisiana from the oil spill along with the near loss of the 2010 spawn for many species.

Sadly I'm hearing the various internal state fisheries research projects funded by BP to study the impact on our fisheries (out of public purview due to BP litigation) is not good news for anglers across Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. I've heard the spawning ratio "SPR" in some parts of the state have fallen to levels in the low single digits versus the optimal number of 18 SPR.

"Hearing, I'm hearing, I heard" ...

You hearing all this down at the beauty salon?

[Ratdog]

Originally Posted by TarponTom

Hearing internal debate on Specks at LaWLF being discussed from 25 per day to between 10-15 for trout with possible restrictions on max size kept. Redfish from 5 to 3 per day with none over 33 inches also floated internally. Look for restrictions on other species as well flounder, white trout, tripletail, even croaker in the near future. Supposedly forage base (cocahoes, menhaden, etc) significantly declined in numbers in Eastern Louisiana from the oil spill along with the near loss of the 2010 spawn for many species.

Sadly I'm hearing the various internal state fisheries research projects funded by BP to study the impact on our fisheries (out of public purview due to BP litigation) is not good news for anglers across Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. I've heard the spawning ratio "SPR" in some parts of the state have fallen to levels in the low single digits versus the optimal number of 18 SPR.

It's not that bad budy might go out and fish and see the numbers out there. Reds over 33 are more abundant in some areas were non under 30 swim.

K M A if you support this if u heard it I see u did not say any thing against it . I wonder if u got um to do so. What we need is u in there standing up and running your mouth inside not here spreading room ers ? issed:is sed:

[duckman1911]

Originally Posted by TarponTom

Hearing internal debate on Specks at LaWLF being discussed from 25 per day to between 10-15 for trout with possible restrictions on max size kept. Redfish from 5 to 3 per day with none over 33 inches also floated internally. Look for restrictions on other species as well flounder, white trout, tripletail, even croaker in the near future. Supposedly forage base (cocahoes, menhaden, etc) significantly declined in numbers in Eastern Louisiana from the oil spill along with the near loss of the 2010 spawn for many species.

Sadly I'm hearing the various internal state fisheries research projects funded by BP to study the impact on our fisheries (out of public purview due to BP litigation) is not good news for anglers across Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. I've heard the spawning ratio "SPR" in some parts of the state have fallen to levels in the low single digits versus the optimal number of 18 SPR.

A 33 inch max limit on reds would pretty much kill summertime surf fishing for a lot of folks.

[keakar]

Drost said most anglers in Southwest Louisiana fully support the special regulations in that area for speckled trout. Anglers in the rest of the state may harvest up to 25 speckled trout each per day, with a minimum length limit of 12 inches. In Southwest Louisiana, however, the daily limit is 15 fish with an angler allowed to harvest no more than two measuring more than 25 inches.
If anything, anglers in that part of the state are alarmed about how increased pressure is impacting the fishery there, Drost said.

sounds like drost has that same imaginary friend that harry reid and nancy pelosi have when they talk about lots of people support doing the stupid things they want to do to us.

maybe you guys in BL are just secretly supporting putting yourselves out of business and making fishing too restrictive for recreationals?

ya know political hacks would never lie so check with your neighbors, some of em must be liberals

[TarponTom]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

A 33 inch max limit on reds would pretty much kill summertime surf fishing for a lot of folks.

If they decide to implement that max limit on reds it will have an impact on nighttime surf fishing for anyone other than those who want to practice catch and release.

Just internal debate by some right now I understand. One thing that was pointed out to me was that this isn't a BL/Texas issue with pressure but also concerns have been mounting with respect to the Chandeleur Island chain. Mississippi which has a 15 per person trout limit and now the growing Mississippi and even Alabama headboat industry has been multiplying and inundating the Chandeleur Island Chain with pressure. The impact of BP spill's use of corexit in 2010, in conjunction with the significant land loss in the eastern part of Louisiana, harsh winter of 2013/14, and higher freshwater discharges from the Miss River pushing into areas with higher salinity levels (above the acceptable levels needed for trout eggs to hatch) are troubling some inside the WLF.

Now whether they keep it at 25 or lower it to 15 or even 10 I don't know but the government needs to make this information public so that we can see if we have a problem and to the extent its as bad as rumored it is just how bad it is. Otherwise the WLF will be doing a disservice to everyone because it will create a bigger issue the politicization of this issue which is not in anyone's best interest. If the SPR is actually down to 3 or 5 in areas then something needs to be done immediately to prevent a collapse of the fishery but if its in the 15-18 then there is no reason to change the limits IMO.

I know the oyster fisherman in Eastern La in the Hopedale/La Marsh/Barataria areas are replanting all of their oyster leases right now because the spat is completely dead from BP and they are praying the major money they are sinking into replanting will actually show results in 3-4 years.

[Ratdog]

Originally Posted by duckman1911

A 33 inch max limit on reds would pretty much kill summertime surf fishing for a lot of folks.

*** I will starve. Unreasonable!

[noodle creek]

What a f***ing joke

[Goooh]

Originally Posted by noodle creek

What a f***ing joke

I second that

[SULPHITE]

[redchaserron]

The funny part is reducing the redfish minimum size from 16" to 14". It's not like anybody has trouble filling out a limit of redfish now.