All I can say is get the Browning X-bolt stainless stalker. Buy something that you can pass down to your kids and they can pass it down to theirs. As stated earlier you get what you pay for in scopes. I have a Burris fullfield II(paid $200 and got a free etrex gps) on a cheap Mossberg(atr 100 $300) than will drive tacks just as good as the Browning. The Mossberg is just not as smooth shooting. BurrisBlack Ice and the Browning is my fancy set up.