[LPfishnTIM]

you don't have to take supplements when working out, but when you can buy protein in a shake form and it is cheaper than buying steak and chicken breast and its faster to take, why not. I don't push supplements, but with proper nutrients you can gain more muscle than just breaking them down and recovery. plus recovery is faster when you eat right. the Ultra 40s are nothing more than mass amounts of vitamins from a different source other then the store bought vitamins. Plus what I take isn't harmful to your health. I never really liked using creatine, you piss it away as soon as you stop taking it.