I think they are pretty nice boats. The only thing I do not like about them is the fact if you buy a new one it will have an OBAMA motor hanging off the back of it......ie.....MERC! Also, I would not get nothing less than 21' for a bay boat. Remember asking someone about boat or motor options is like asking someone which truck should I buy: Ford or Chevy.....etc....you will get a lot of different opinions.......
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