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MathGeek 04-05-2012 10:26 AM

Lead weight needed to hold bottom in Caminada Pass (Bridge area in Grande Isle)
 
I like to be able to keep some baits on the bottom even during the briskest tides. How heavy a pyramid sinker will be needed to keep a bait on the bottom in Caminada Pass in the briskest summer tide? I'm thinking and planning on 4 oz, or do I need more?

Also, what is the maximum depth of the pass?

eman 04-05-2012 11:01 AM

this is the best i have found.

http://jettyfishing.com/graphics/topics/spider_mold.jpg you bend the wires out like a grapple hook.
If it get hung you can pull and the copper wire will straighten

MathGeek 04-05-2012 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eman (Post 415656)
this is the best i have found.

http://jettyfishing.com/graphics/topics/spider_mold.jpg you bend the wires out like a grapple hook.
If it get hung you can pull and the copper wire will straighten

Awesome. How much does it weigh, and where can I get some?

Thanks.

pmjparty 04-05-2012 12:21 PM

I saw some at the tackle box in Sulphur...

swamp snorkler 04-05-2012 12:30 PM

That channel is very deep in some spots...... I've heard 70' but I'm not %100 certain

ckinchen 04-05-2012 12:40 PM

I used a 1oz at the rigs offshore just outside of the pass last year without a problem. I think 2oz or would be to heavy. I would start with 3/4 and work my way up.

FF_T_Warren 04-05-2012 01:23 PM

yea I fish off the jetties using a 3/4oz usual but if the tide is crazy strong I need 2 of those

meaux fishing 04-05-2012 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 415693)
That channel is very deep in some spots...... I've heard 70' but I'm not %100 certain

might be... Ive only ever seen 30-40 ft in caminada but like I said I dont run all over looking for deep spots I pretty much always follow the same path out. now barataria is a different story Its 120' in one spot

Ray 04-05-2012 01:32 PM

Poppin cork along the rocks.
Sand Eel/Jerk Jr. along the rocks w/1/4 oz leadhead.

I never caught much besides Reds on the bottom.

meaux fishing 04-05-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray (Post 415710)
Poppin cork along the rocks.
Sand Eel/Jerk Jr. along the rocks w/1/4 oz leadhead.

I never caught much besides Reds on the bottom.

Im pretty sure thats what he's after

swamp snorkler 04-05-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 415708)
might be... Ive only ever seen 30-40 ft in caminada but like I said I dont run all over looking for deep spots I pretty much always follow the same path out. now barataria is a different story Its 120' in one spot

I've heard the same thing about Barataria, that side of the Island is very deep

eman 04-05-2012 04:01 PM

fishing tackle specialty ( E bay store ) has them I believe they are called spider weights.
smallest i saw was 2 oz all the way to 6 oz.

MathGeek 04-05-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 415710)
Poppin cork along the rocks.
Sand Eel/Jerk Jr. along the rocks w/1/4 oz leadhead.

I never caught much besides Reds on the bottom.

One of my favorite plays in passes is to put the boat in a spot where the anglers can actively fish the jetties/rocks with live shrimp or whatever under a popping cork while a piece of crab or 4-12" bait fish (croaker, pinfish, sand trout) is either lowered straight from the boat or cast toward the channel for a big redfish or drum.

To have three anglers each fishing two rods, the angler furthest up tide (front of the boat usually) needs a weight that will hold his bait to the bottom otherwise her bait keeps drifting down tide and is liable to get into the middle angler's line and the middle angler's bait on the bottom is liable to drift back and get into the bait intended to be kept furthest down tide. It there is not too much tide, we like to start with 1/2 to 1 oz and add weight until things stop drifting. But one needs to know the heaviest weight needed in the box to hold it all down in the briskest tide. Lines drifting along the bottom are also much more likely to get snagged on something on all but the smoothest sand and mud bottoms.

Thanks for the replies, it has been very informative.

Dink 04-05-2012 05:40 PM

Cam pass is no deeper than 15ft these days. Barateria pass on the other hand is 130ft.

Dink 04-05-2012 05:53 PM

To answer your question, you shouldn't need more than a few oz......its OK if the current takes it a bit, cause if they all have the same weight, they get taken at the same speed. The biggest thing is to have them out at different distances. Also, your bait choice is 1crap stop shopping. Frozen mullet. Cut it in one inch pieces and throw em out Carolina rigged. Count to 10 and you should have a Bull Red or some other gigantic prehistoric looking thing on the line. .......hope y'all have fun!! Can't wait to see the report!

Ray 04-05-2012 07:58 PM

Every time I go to Grand Isle, I see the same boat with 4 old men just North of the Caminida Bridge fishing the bottom. They catch big plenty of big Reds. They are just on the other side of the bridge from Bridge Side. They are not in deep water, but they catch.

I make oil 04-06-2012 05:52 AM

I used to use crabs but like Dink has said cut mullet is WAY easier use and get. Crabs are a PITA to use and sometimes tough to get. Mullet does catch more catfish though.

latravcha 04-06-2012 08:47 AM

Use the weight Mathgeek posted. You bend the prongs out and it grips the bottom. I have seen some much smaller at academy

Garfish 04-06-2012 09:02 AM

BPS and Academy have them. Seen em as big as 3 oz at Academy in Houston. Many shark fishermen use them in these parts for the surf.

brian22 04-10-2012 12:23 PM

If you can't find the prong type, I used a 2 oz egg last time I was there for Ride the Bull II. It seemed to hold. THey sell bull red rigs at the gas station right when you get into Fourchon w/ like 70lb flouro, 2 oz egg, and circle hooks if you get down there and you still don't have anything.


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