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catchandkill 04-19-2010 12:36 PM

LA out-of-state license fees (especially for Texans)
 
I am venturing out into dangerous territory with this as my first post, but here goes nothing. I have enjoyed hunting in TX for years, especially deer and turkey, which are in more abundance and I don't mind (much) paying the now, $300.00 for that priviledge, after all, it is a priviledge and you do get what you pay for. I know the we have some sort of reciprocal license fee law, but i think the state has missed the boat on reciprocating. If BL is the world class fishing destination we know it is, I hope somebody with a lot more stroke and contact is ahead of my thoughts here...:work::work:

cmdrost 04-19-2010 12:39 PM

Is this W's alter???

LaAngler 04-19-2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 141385)
Is this W's alter???

doesn't appear to be....

yes, ban the texans :D

"W" 04-19-2010 12:49 PM

I say place a $1000 fishing license fee...no more one or five day pass ....

$5000 for a guide out of state to charter a trip on our waters

mikedatiger 04-19-2010 12:54 PM

trying to figure out what the point of your post is. i just looked it up, and hunting / fishing licenses are approximately the same costs for non-residents in both LA / TX. If you are trying to blame Big Lake woes on Texans, then this is a joke. Big Lake is my home away from home and I can tell you I have never had problems with Texans on the lake. If people are so worried about it, then stop keeping limits ever time out!!! After fishing the SFA this weekend I have a newfound respect for our speckled friends and had as much enjoyment letting them go as I did catching them.

A lot of the Texans you are referring to are in the same boat as me in the fact that we were born and raised in LA. When it comes to conservation efforts pick up a copy of Texas Saltwater Fishing Magazine and you might learn a thing or two...

Mediumheavyaction6'6 04-19-2010 01:12 PM

I agree with everything you just said Micah.

catchandkill 04-19-2010 01:17 PM

mikedatiger, just out of curiosity, if you purchased a yearly out of state license, what did it cost?

mikedatiger 04-19-2010 01:28 PM

it's $90. Basic fishing $60 + Saltwater $30. This doesn't include the thousands of dollars I contribute to the great state of LA each year for lodging, food, gas, etc.

if you compare license fees for each state you will see that they are about the same - in fact, I believe a TX out of state fishing license is $22 cheaper...

"W" 04-19-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedatiger (Post 141422)
it's $90. Basic fishing $60 + Saltwater $30. This doesn't include the thousands of dollars I contribute to the great state of LA each year for lodging, food, gas, etc.

if you compare license fees for each state you will see that they are about the same - in fact, I believe a TX out of state fishing license is $22 cheaper...


Mike compare hunting......No Texans come to LA to hunt but all come to fish...........No LA guys go to Texas to fish but all to hunt...

Salty 04-19-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by catchandkill (Post 141382)
I am venturing out into dangerous territory with this as my first post, but here goes nothing. I have enjoyed hunting in TX for years, especially deer and turkey, which are in more abundance and I don't mind (much) paying the now, $300.00 for that priviledge, after all, it is a priviledge and you do get what you pay for. I know the we have some sort of reciprocal license fee law, but i think the state has missed the boat on reciprocating. If BL is the world class fishing destination we know it is, I hope somebody with a lot more stroke and contact is ahead of my thoughts here...:work::work:


Ban his azz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Salty 04-19-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 141390)
I say place a $1000 fishing license fee...no more one or five day pass ....

$5000 for a guide out of state to charter a trip on my waters

:cool:

cmdrost 04-19-2010 01:40 PM

"When it comes to conservation efforts pick up a copy of Texas Saltwater Fishing Magazine and you might learn a thing or two... "

AMEN to that!!

elaw62 04-19-2010 01:45 PM

They are both top notch sportsman states. I think that the 2 states need to reach an agreement with each other similar to Toledo in that as long as you're on that body of water whether you break the plain of the mouth of a bayou or not either license should suffice. this is not the case however which is pretty lame. I don't ever fish BL but stay on Sabine so why should I have to pay out of state license fees plus some other hog wash fee to fish water that I launch in my home state. Before I get pounced on I have more kin folks from La than Texas. Can't we all just get along? :*****:

elaw62 04-19-2010 01:48 PM

I don't know. It's getting so expensive over here I can't fish either :spineyes:

bay_slayer 04-19-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 141439)
"When it comes to conservation efforts pick up a copy of Texas Saltwater Fishing Magazine and you might learn a thing or two... "

AMEN to that!!

Is part of the Texas Conservation plan, to fish Louisiana waters so they dont hurt their own fishing resources?????

mikedatiger 04-19-2010 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 141431)
Mike compare hunting......No Texans come to LA to hunt but all come to fish...........No LA guys go to Texas to fish but all to hunt...

respective licenses cost the same. hiking up fees an outrageous amount won't do anything but hurt the local economy. Not trying to defend TX here but everyone should look in their own backyard first before pointing fingers. (even little fingers :p)

almost all of the TX fisherman I know are catch and release guys...

mikedatiger 04-19-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bay_slayer (Post 141447)
Is part of the Texas Conservation plan, to fish Louisiana waters so they dont hurt their own fishing resources?????

how many people are we actually talking about here? this discussion is nothing more than speculation/opinions without numbers:shaking:

elaw62 04-19-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 141431)
Mike compare hunting......No Texans come to LA to hunt but all come to fish...........No LA guys go to Texas to fish but all to hunt...

I have to disagree here as I know of many from La that fish Rayburn.

bay_slayer 04-19-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mikedatiger (Post 141454)
how many people are we actually talking about here? this discussion is nothing more than speculation/opinions without numbers:shaking:

I realize that and I'm just stirring the pot a little bit. But if they want to talk about "Texas conservation" then they can go conservate (I just made that word up:D ) in texas. Louisiana's conservation needs are probably a little different than Texas' conservation needs, so they can keep that over there.

all star rod 04-19-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedatiger (Post 141450)
respective licenses cost the same. hiking up fees an outrageous amount won't do anything but hurt the local economy. Not trying to defend TX here but everyone should look in their own backyard first before pointing fingers. (even little fingers :p)

almost all of the TX fisherman I know are catch and release guys...



Except when they fish in LOUISISANA......:D J/K, I have no issue at all.

mikedatiger 04-19-2010 02:08 PM

totally agree with you about conservation needs being different - these threads just chap my aZZ cause I am now a "Texan" but hate fishing anywhere else but home.

i'm too short for wadin' around TX :help:

bay_slayer 04-19-2010 02:15 PM

I dont have a problem with them fishing here either, but I dont like to see people telling us we need to read a texas magazine on conservation. there is a reason Texas folk like to fish Louisiana water...........Its because we have more fish!!!!! :))

ShadMan 04-19-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bay_slayer (Post 141473)
there is a reason Texas folk like to fish Louisiana water...........Its because we have more fish!!!!! :))

Agreed...it's just too bad you don't have any big ones because of the lack of conservation practiced in LA. ;)

bay_slayer 04-19-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadMan (Post 141481)
Agreed...it's just too bad you don't have any big ones because of the lack of conservation practiced in LA. ;)

there are plenty of big ones to be caught IF you know where and how to catch em ;)

elaw62 04-19-2010 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadMan (Post 141481)
Agreed...it's just too bad you don't have any big ones because of the lack of conservation practiced in LA. ;)

OH OH :shaking:

Salty 04-19-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bay_slayer (Post 141484)
there are plenty of big ones to be caught IF you geaux with W ;)

:)

bay_slayer 04-19-2010 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 141486)
:)

:shaking:

cmdrost 04-19-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bay_slayer (Post 141473)
I dont have a problem with them fishing here either, but I dont like to see people telling us we need to read a texas magazine on conservation. there is a reason Texas folk like to fish Louisiana water...........Its because we have more fish!!!!! :))

All he is saying is that it is a good saltwater fishing magazine that is conservation driven. It talks about the resource and keeping it for future generations. Conversly, look at LAS, that magazine only worries about the kill and how many they can sell now. They don't seem too concerned about the future of fisheries.

mikedatiger 04-19-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 141502)
All he is saying is that it is a good saltwater fishing magazine that is conservation driven. It talks about the resource and keeping it for future generations. Conversly, look at LAS, that magazine only worries about the kill and how many they can sell now. They don't seem too concerned about the future of fisheries.

Bingo. We have a winner!!!:cool:

bay_slayer 04-19-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmdrost (Post 141502)
All he is saying is that it is a good saltwater fishing magazine that is conservation driven. It talks about the resource and keeping it for future generations. Conversly, look at LAS, that magazine only worries about the kill and how many they can sell now. They don't seem too concerned about the future of fisheries.

And for that reason I dont support LAS mag.

LaAngler 04-19-2010 03:17 PM

yeah i think that mag is a disgrace

FREON 04-19-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 141431)
Mike compare hunting......No Texans come to LA to hunt but all come to fish...........No LA guys go to Texas to fish but all to hunt...

:confused::confused::confused: Then how come you are coming to Texas to Fisg galveston bay in the morning????:rotfl::*****::rotfl:

youmyboyblue 04-19-2010 03:41 PM

I think there are "those people" anywhere there are fish. We caught 30 trout in Big Lake (over 2 days a few weeks ago) and released every fish. My personal best is swimming in big lake today. There was also a group wading near us who I watch put every fish on their stringer that was caught. My point is not all out of towners come to big lake to destroy the fisheries. I came b/c I wanted to wade fish and don't have anywhere around here to wade. I hurt nothing, bothered no one and had a great trip.

Some people dont have the conservation mindset that others have. Doesn't make it wrong, doesn't make it right. A magazine is not going to change that mindset.

I personally rarly keep fish, which is even more of the reason I was not going to go to another Lake and keep them. I will keep a few to fry that evening or a few to give to my neighbor. I have buddies that WON"T throw fish back. They keep theirs, I throw mine back. Their happy, I am happy.

Reel Bender 04-19-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 141431)
Mike compare hunting......No Texans come to LA to hunt but all come to fish...........No LA guys go to Texas to fish but all to hunt...


tALKING BOUT A PINT SIZED WALKING CONTRADICTION!!!
:spineyes::spineyes::spineyes::spineyes::spineyes:
I believe I just read a thread originated by you about fishing Galveston on Tuesday.

catchandkill 04-19-2010 05:37 PM

mikedatiger, no offense is intended and i am talking in a reasonable tone here, as a resident of the state , i dare say i pay more than than you do when it comes to taxes, fees, so on and so forth, in this state. also, all the banter about who releases more fish than the other is subterfuge, clouding the primary issue. furthermore, with all due respect to "W," i didnt make the statement that could be construed as inflammatory about raising the prices to being unreasonable and i think he was just yanking your chain...u just bit. i think your statement, "how many people are we actually talking about here? this discussion is nothing more than speculation/opinions without numbers," is also clouding the issue as the se texas has significantly more fisherman in it than sw la and the potential for abusing the resource is real!

adamsfence 04-19-2010 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catchandkill (Post 141575)
mikedatiger, no offense is intended and i am talking in a reasonable tone here, as a resident of the state , i dare say i pay more than than you do when it comes to taxes, fees, so on and so forth, in this state. also, all the banter about who releases more fish than the other is subterfuge, clouding the primary issue. furthermore, with all due respect to "W," i didnt make the statement that could be construed as inflammatory about raising the prices to being unreasonable and i think he was just yanking your chain...u just bit. i think your statement, "how many people are we actually talking about here? this discussion is nothing more than speculation/opinions without numbers," is also clouding the issue as the se texas has significantly more fisherman in it than sw la and the potential for abusing the resource is real!


you got way too many big words in there for this dumb red bone.....:spineyes:

LaAngler 04-19-2010 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catchandkill (Post 141575)
the potential for abusing the resource is real!

i agree with this 100%

Raymond 04-19-2010 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamsfence (Post 141619)
you got way too many big words in there for this dumb red bone.....:spineyes:

If only Waltrip could M-U-LATE his use of diction you would not have to scratch yo head so much.;)

Ray 04-19-2010 09:35 PM

I took a Texan fishing in Big Lake and he didn't catch anything.

That's conservation, ain't it???

longsidelandry 04-19-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 141674)
I took a Texan fishing in Big Lake and he didn't catch anything.

That's conservation, ain't it???

I'm not sure about that one Ray, didn't he put huge holes in the reef by walking on it?

drjay 04-19-2010 10:58 PM

Join the military...fish free!00

Big Kahunaz 04-20-2010 02:22 AM

[QUOTE="W";141431]Mike compare hunting......No Texans come to LA to hunt but all come to fish...........No LA guys go to Texas to fish but all to hunt...[/QUOTI

I fish Rayburn often...i think it's more of a bass'n thing for cross'n the border than salt. And on the comment about Galveston Bay...I've had plenty of good trips out of there! I recall heading to school some mornings and seeing trout riding the crest of the calm breaks in the 2nd pit off the shore and skip class for a quick limit of trout ...

Ray 04-20-2010 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bay_slayer (Post 141464)
I realize that and I'm just stirring the pot a little bit. But if they want to talk about "Texas conservation" then they can go conservate (I just made that word up:D ) in texas. Louisiana's conservation needs are probably a little different than Texas' conservation needs, so they can keep that over there.

I don't think it is a Texas/Louisiana conservation issue. It is a personal issue. It all depends on how the fisherman thinks, or was brought up, or was taught how to fish.
Some fish to eat, some fish for trophies(some keep, some release), some fish for fun/sport, some fish for all the above.
I think there are as many keepers in Texas as there is in La. We just don't read about them in the magazines we get.
It's all about opinion and responsibility. If I can fish every day, I will release more fish. If I only get to fish a couple times a month, then I will keep my fish to eat. I love eating and one of my favorite things to eat is fish.

catch.and.fillet 04-20-2010 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 141790)
......
It's all about opinion and responsibility. If I can fish every day, I will release more fish. If I only get to fish a couple times a month, then I will keep my fish to eat. I love eating and one of my favorite things to eat is fish.

x2

Garfish 04-20-2010 08:43 AM

I lived in Louisiana for over 30 years and fished and hunted there when I was there. I now live in Texas for the past 8 years and I still come to Louisiana to fish, but I'm lucky that I have lived in 2 states that have many oppurtunities to enjoy the outdoors and I can pass it on to my children. I am willing to pay the $90 out-of-state license fee (even though it's HIGH) because i know that I'll have a great time and probably will catch some fish while there. I also know more productive spots where I fish in Louisiana (mainly Lafourche, Fourchon, G.I. Areas) than I do in Texas. I have some spots I fish in Texas, but sometimes they aren't as productive and I have to scout others and I continually do it because I'm a sportsman and like the challenge. I only can fish once a month or less on avg. now that I have a young family to take care of and I can tell you that when I go, I'm going to keep my "legal" limit if I want because I would like to eat the fish that I catch. I do practice catch and release at times, but if I go I'm usually going for the fun and for food. I cherish every minute I fish in Louisiana because i know it doesn't get much better anywhere else and I miss the hell outta being able to load up and make a quick trip to "the island" whenever i felt the urge to do so.

A lot of this license stuff started on the other border between La. and Miss. if I recall and that's when the out-of-state licenses went up for hunting and fishing.

Reel Bender 04-20-2010 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 141674)
I took a Texan fishing in Big Lake and he didn't catch anything.

That's conservation, ain't it???

Oh so that was the plan all along!!!!
How much did the munchkin have to pay ya, I would of beat his offer!!!!!!!!!!!


Uh how many did you catch? I forgot.:D


Besides I brought the wrong bait, I did not know we were going after the once in a lifetime fish! LOL

Reel Bender 04-20-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longsidelandry (Post 141751)
I'm not sure about that one Ray, didn't he put huge holes in the reef by walking on it?


The experts say you need to break them up now and then so they will grow:D

Ray 04-21-2010 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reel Bender (Post 142208)
The experts say you need to break them up now and then so they will grow:D

We broke up a 50 ft trail...:rotfl:

evis102 04-21-2010 05:53 AM

The issue is people from Louisiana cry when they can not catch fish and the people from Texas can. The only thing that may hurt the fish is all the guide boats killing 60 trout a day per boat.

Ray 04-21-2010 06:13 AM

I have no issues with anyone catching fish. If I can't catch fish, it's my fault.


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