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Raymond 05-17-2017 09:47 AM

H.B. 156 Round 2 in Senate NR Committe
 
This bill was voted out of the House 94-1 and will now be heard in the Senate Natural Resources Committee next Thursday morning. It's the same as the House NR committee, if it gets killed there, it's over.

I would urge the "Guide Family" & Calcasieu Recreational anglers to plan accordingly and attend this meeting if possible. Cameron will be sending the white boot brigade and tears will be falling.
Form letters and phone calls will not help if the bill gets killed Thursday and nor will internet dribble.

Parking is located behind the capitol on the levee (westside).

Sightwindow 05-18-2017 12:25 PM

Bump. Recs seem to get slaughtered with the red snapper thing because they don't show up when it's time.

jabert 05-26-2017 12:42 PM

Any news on how this turned out? I looked around online but didn't see an update from yesterday

jchief 05-26-2017 10:33 PM

Yes it will be continued this Thursday. There was a lot of opposition that showed up. Oyster guys came out in full force and the committee wants to hear more. So if you can go testify on Thursday it is desperately needed. At the very least if the word can get out to at least email all of the committee members showing support for the bill. It all helps. Because if it doesn't go to the floor on Friday it will be dead which is exactly what oyster guys want.

From a friend

Bluechip 05-27-2017 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchief (Post 821027)
Yes it will be continued this Thursday. There was a lot of opposition that showed up. Oyster guys came out in full force and the committee wants to hear more. So if you can go testify on Thursday it is desperately needed. At the very least if the word can get out to at least email all of the committee members showing support for the bill. It all helps. Because if it doesn't go to the floor on Friday it will be dead which is exactly what oyster guys want.

From a friend

Surely the oyster fishermen didn't out number the guides on Big Lake ? And I play the political game quite often. You have to call these politicians or meet face to face.

Those little chain emails are worthless.

Sightwindow 05-27-2017 09:08 AM

Well, then, that's that. If the guides and sports didn't show up last time, no reason to believe they will this time.

Raymond 05-28-2017 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 821035)
Surely the oyster fishermen didn't out number the guides on Big Lake ? And I play the political game quite often. You have to call these politicians or meet face to face.

Those little chain emails are worthless.

Yep, three of us and 20 of them including their paid for economic development/port director. My second trip east and it's getting hard to put paying work on hold to keep fighting a battle for those who are stakeholders that continuously ***** and moan about the organization that's carrying the water for them. I guess CCA needs to bus everyone with a stake in this battle to Baton Rouge and pay them for their time also. And NO, I don't need a pat on the back from anyone, I know I have delivered on my end.

Bluechip 05-29-2017 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 821092)
Yep, three of us and 20 of them including their paid for economic development/port director. My second trip east and it's getting hard to put paying work on hold to keep fighting a battle for those who are stakeholders that continuously ***** and moan about the organization that's carrying the water for them. I guess CCA needs to bus everyone with a stake in this battle to Baton Rouge and pay them for their time also. And NO, I don't need a pat on the back from anyone, I know I have delivered on my end.

I guess that's why none of the guides responded, because they were not there. It's easy to ***** and complain on the internet but very few actually step up when the rubber meets the road. Their oyster reef complaint is useless unless they pack the house showing opposition.

The commercial fishing industry will have their people there.

"W" 05-29-2017 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 821102)
I guess that's why none of the guides responded, because they were not there. It's easy to ***** and complain on the internet but very few actually step up when the rubber meets the road. Their oyster reef complaint is useless unless they pack the house showing opposition.

The commercial fishing industry will have their people there.

Thats 100% wrong

There will be few of us on Thurs......

But I promise our emails and phone calls are heard ...I've spoke with two representatives this past week along with 1 law maker.

Believe me we are being heard loud and clear...

unlike other most of us have to work and have jobs and are not on Gov assistants.

We cant all be like Raymond and wear our Superman CCA shirt

"W" 05-29-2017 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 821092)
Yep, three of us and 20 of them including their paid for economic development/port director. My second trip east and it's getting hard to put paying work on hold to keep fighting a battle for those who are stakeholders that continuously ***** and moan about the organization that's carrying the water for them. I guess CCA needs to bus everyone with a stake in this battle to Baton Rouge and pay them for their time also. And NO, I don't need a pat on the back from anyone, I know I have delivered on my end.

Thats the problem Raymond no guides are coming for the CCA or support of the CCA or asked by the CCA.

We see how your text to guides worked out......

Dont worry we are bringing the Calvary ;)

jchief 05-29-2017 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 821104)
Thats 100% wrong

There will be few of us on Thurs.....

But I promise our emails and phone calls are heard ...I've spoke with two representatives this past week along with 1 law maker.

Believe me we are being heard loud and clear...

unlike other most of us have to work and have jobs and are not on Gov assistants.

We cant all be like Raymond and wear our Superman CCA shirt

If this is the case and there are just a few there, the bill will not get out of committee. Been there done that.

eman 05-29-2017 04:12 PM

I had a niece that worked for a couple of different senators who were on committees. She read all the incoming e mails and took calls and gave him an estimate of how many for and against on each issue. If she bothered keeping track???

Bluechip 05-29-2017 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 821104)
Thats 100% wrong

There will be few of us on Thurs......

But I promise our emails and phone calls are heard ...I've spoke with two representatives this past week along with 1 law maker.

Believe me we are being heard loud and clear...

unlike other most of us have to work and have jobs and are not on Gov assistants.

We cant all be like Raymond and wear our Superman CCA shirt

I'm glad that I'm wrong..... but keep sending your chain emails and don't pack the house on Thursday and I may be right.....

"W" 05-29-2017 04:56 PM

Committee has nothing to support allowing oyster dredging to continue !

Not 1 small ounce of evidence supports dredging to keep moving foward !

If they are that stupid to over look the abundance of science and evidence than you can fill Baton Rouge up with Anti dredging people and it will not matter !

That's a fact !

Even local oyster fisherman have said it's in bad shape

What more can one do ?
We have data
We have evidence
We have numbers
We have proof
We have assistsments

It's kind of like the OJ murder trial
If you choose to close your eyes to all above
Then nothing anyone can do will make a diffence

Raymond 05-29-2017 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 821104)
Thats 100% wrong

There will be few of us on Thurs......

But I promise our emails and phone calls are heard ...I've spoke with two representatives this past week along with 1 law maker.

Believe me we are being heard loud and clear...

unlike other most of us have to work and have jobs and are not on Gov assistants.

We cant all be like Raymond and wear our Superman CCA shirt

You're already beat with your attitude little man.
I'm sure with your intellect, you're driving the short bus with all those "government assistants"riding in the back.

mstulb 05-31-2017 09:11 AM

Lake Charles Rep. Stephen Dwight has introduced House Bill 156, which would allow hand tonging only for oyster harvest in Calcasieu and Sabine Lakes. It will be heard this Thursday, June 1 at approximately 9:30am in the Senate Natural Resources Committee at the State Capitol. The legislation would remove scrapers (dredges) as allowable harvest gear in both lakes. We need as many as possible to attend the meeting Thursday in Baton Rouge to show support for this important legislation. The meeting information is below.

Please email each senator to show your support for the bill.

chabertn@legis.la.gov-chairman Norby Chabert

lamberte@legis.la.gov-senator Eddie Lambert

allainb@legis.la.gov-senator Brett Allien

rgatti@legis.la.gov-senator Ryan Gatti

jluneau@legis.la.gov-senatorJay Luneau

tarverg@legis.la.gov-senator Greg Tarver

rward@legis.la.gov-senator Rick Ward

mstulb 05-31-2017 09:12 AM

Please take time to email each just copy and paste your response to each to make sure they all hear it. They need to hear our support for this bill even if we can't make it in person.

jchief 05-31-2017 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 821117)
I'm glad that I'm wrong..... but keep sending your chain emails and don't pack the house on Thursday and I may be right.....

Jeremy, myself and Blue have been there. I guarantee you, if there is not a crowd there supporting this Thurs, it will NOT get out of committee.

"W" 05-31-2017 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchief (Post 821237)
Jeremy, myself and Blue have been there. I guarantee you, if there is not a crowd there supporting this Thurs, it will NOT get out of committee.

We are going
We have a crew
About 20 or more guides coming in our group
I'm sure more will be going
But I know 1st hand the committee has been flooded with over 8k emails in support of bill and counting
This was last week

This committee knows at 9:30am on a Thurs 99% of people can not miss work or make meeting

They have 50 guides tomorrow who would love to come but are booked and cant make it
I was able to move my guys to afternoon but most can't move people

jchief 06-01-2017 06:59 AM

I hope you are right. But look at it this way, the oyster guys made sure they can be there because it's their livelihood.

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Sightwindow 06-01-2017 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 821241)
We are going
We have a crew
About 20 or more guides coming in our group
I'm sure more will be going
But I know 1st hand the committee has been flooded with over 8k emails in support of bill and counting
This was last week

This committee knows at 9:30am on a Thurs 99% of people can not miss work or make meeting

They have 50 guides tomorrow who would love to come but are booked and cant make it
I was able to move my guys to afternoon but most can't move people

Nice going, W. Honestly, this should have been a priority for all guides on the lake, especially with a rainy forecast at the beginning of this week.

Hope it works out well.

eman 06-01-2017 08:59 AM

[QUOTE="W";821119]Committee has nothing to support allowing oyster dredging to continue !

Not 1 small ounce of evidence supports dredging to keep moving foward !

If they are that stupid to over look the abundance of science and evidence than you can fill Baton Rouge up with Anti dredging people and it will not matter !

That's a fact !

Even local oyster fisherman have said it's in bad shape

What more can one do ?
We have data
We have evidence
We have numbers
We have proof
We have assistsments

Damn. Sounds just like the argument on reducing the trout limit ???
All that talk and paperwork did absolutely nothing.

eman 06-01-2017 09:04 AM

Hopefully the pro bill folks will get to speak 1st. If not be prepared to be there a while.

Gerald 06-01-2017 09:58 AM

Looks like the Senate schedule changed some. Senate convened at 9:49 AM.


Don't know when the NR committee will start.


http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/home.aspx

"W" 06-01-2017 10:01 AM

We are on same level now

Find it funny Raymond is not here ?

On the most important vote of all

Gerald 06-01-2017 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 821264)
We are on same level now

Find it funny Raymond is not here ?

On the most important vote of all



Raymond had a big add in today's paper..... he must be answering the phone.


When will the NR committee meeting start? I see there are 8 bills on the schedule and HB 156 is # 6 to be heard. I wonder if it will be moved up to be heard first because of the large number of people there?

"W" 06-01-2017 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 821266)
Raymond had a big add in today's paper..... he must be answering the phone.


When will the NR committee meeting start? I see there are 8 bills on the schedule and HB 156 is # 6 to be heard. I wonder if it will be moved up to be heard first because of the large number of people there?

They have a bill
With about 100 ladies here all dressed in Red
They on a mission

I'm sure they 1st

Gerald 06-01-2017 10:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by "W" (Post 821267)
They have a bill
With about 100 ladies here all dressed in Red
They on a mission

I'm sure they 1st



Just looked at the bills......


Not sure what the ladies are there for/against??? Maybe HCR 62..... concerning LDWF evaluations of feral hog toxicants.


I try to do my part.

Gerald 06-01-2017 10:31 AM

The Senate session just ended......until 3 PM today, and it will meet again.

"W" 06-01-2017 10:49 AM

We are in Room
Right now
About to start

jchief 06-01-2017 10:52 AM

Keep us updated

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Gerald 06-01-2017 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchief (Post 821272)
Keep us updated

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Here is a link to watch the meeting.


http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/home.aspx


It does not show that the meeting is "In Progress" yet. But when it does, click on the "TV" icon on the right side of the screen for the Senate NR committee meeting.


You might get to see "W" talking????

Gerald 06-01-2017 11:00 AM

Meeting just started.

Gerald 06-01-2017 11:10 AM

"W" are you sitting behind the big guy in a green shirt?

jchief 06-01-2017 11:17 AM

Running errands and can't watch

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"W" 06-01-2017 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 821276)
"W" are you sitting behind the big guy in a green shirt?

Yea

I would be come an alcoholic if I had to do this **** everyday

Gerald 06-01-2017 11:19 AM

Meeting is in a delay..... waiting on some other people to get there.


Can hear some people talking about Oysters!

"W" 06-01-2017 11:52 AM

Should of brought a tent
My god

"W" 06-01-2017 01:10 PM

These oyster fisherman
Lmao
Wow
No words to explain it
If your watching it you know

jchief 06-01-2017 01:39 PM

Not looking good from the questions the Committee members are asking.

jchief 06-01-2017 01:50 PM

Made it out of committee.

"W" 06-01-2017 01:59 PM

To the floor now

Gerald 06-01-2017 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchief;821285[B
]Not looking good[/B] from the questions the Committee members are asking.



I agree, the "pro" Oyster people made some good points and I was not sure how the vote would go.


I wish the LDWF would/could have presented a better assessment of there data and sampling of Oyster stock.

Gerald 06-01-2017 02:04 PM

The "Pro" people sure twisted some of there information [incorrect information] to support the Oyster fishermen/women.

Bluechip 06-01-2017 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerald (Post 821288)
I agree, the "pro" Oyster people made some good points and I was not sure how the vote would go.


I wish the LDWF would/could have presented a better assessment of there data and sampling of Oyster stock.

With all the evidence against the oyster fishermen it was a slam dunk. Or that's what I heard. Congratulations on getting it moved out of committee.

Raymond 06-01-2017 02:47 PM

Passed 5-2, on to full senate for the vote on Monday. Hoping that the support in the House translates over to the Senate on Monday.
Might want to drop Stephen Dwight a line thanking him for his support on 156.
See ya in a couple years Waltrip:D

jabert 06-01-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluechip (Post 821292)
With all the evidence against the oyster fishermen it was a slam dunk. Or that's what I heard. Congratulations on getting it moved out of committee.

X2! Glad to hear they listened to the evidence. So next stop is the floor tomorrow?

"W" 06-01-2017 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 821293)
Passed 5-2, on to full senate for the vote on Monday. Hoping that the support in the House translates over to the Senate on Monday.
Might want to drop Stephen Dwight a line thanking him for his support on 156.
See ya in a couple years Waltrip:D

Raymond where were you Mr CCA
We bring the thunder and you a no show for most important vote ?

redchaserron 06-01-2017 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 821293)
Passed 5-2, on to full senate for the vote on Monday. Hoping that the support in the House translates over to the Senate on Monday.
Might want to drop Stephen Dwight a line thanking him for his support on 156.
See ya in a couple years Waltrip:D

Who were the 2 on the committee that opposed it?

"W" 06-01-2017 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redchaserron (Post 821296)
Who were the 2 on the committee that opposed it?

Chairman Chabert and Lambert


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