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Broke Down 07-11-2016 07:21 PM

New to me boat!
 
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My brother-in-law has been watching me work on my little Alumacraft and I think he's been feeling sorry for me. I get a text to call him and he tells me about this 2003 Sea Fox 195 his customer wants to sell. I show up and look at it because the engine had a mild fire and has some blisters on the foot and a small portion of the gel coat. It has a Mercury 115 hp four stroke. Long story short, I bought it for a really good deal today. I need to paint a few things on the engine and get some gel coat repaired. Any suggestions on paint repair on the engine? Rattle can is cheap but I don't want it to peel.

smooth move 07-11-2016 09:04 PM

if you prep it good and use the manufacturers rattle can paint, it will not peel and it will look stock.

Broke Down 07-11-2016 10:55 PM

I hope so. I have a friend that is going to do it all for me. He may have some left over paint he said. Now for the gel coat, I wish it was that easy, just rattle can it on....lol.

CajunChristian 07-12-2016 08:40 AM

You might want to take the rig to a reputable dealer to check the engine. Years ago, I had a 19' ProCraft with a 200 Mariner. I took that boat 40 miles offshore. Never had a single issue. Even breaking down in Big Lake is a dangerous experience. Personally, I would take it to Lake Area Marine. Kyle or Gerald will not lie to you, it is what it is. If they tell you 4 weeks, it will be 4 weeks. The old saying about an ounce of prevention, means even more when it comes to marine stuff.
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swamp snorkler 07-12-2016 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Broke Down (Post 800868)
I hope so. I have a friend that is going to do it all for me. He may have some left over paint he said. Now for the gel coat, I wish it was that easy, just rattle can it on....lol.

Id get a brand new can of paint if I was you. It's not that much and will do a better job.

latravcha 07-12-2016 11:58 AM

If you spend some time and compound and wax that hull it will look brand new.

Broke Down 07-12-2016 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CajunChristian (Post 800882)
You might want to take the rig to a reputable dealer to check the engine. Years ago, I had a 19' ProCraft with a 200 Mariner. I took that boat 40 miles offshore. Never had a single issue. Even breaking down in Big Lake is a dangerous experience. Personally, I would take it to Lake Area Marine. Kyle or Gerald will not lie to you, it is what it is. If they tell you 4 weeks, it will be 4 weeks. The old saying about an ounce of prevention, means even more when it comes to marine stuff.
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My brother-in-law has been a marine mechanic for 20 years now, luckily he checked it all before he called me. I know what you mean, that would be my luck. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by swamp snorkler (Post 800912)
Id get a brand new can of paint if I was you. It's not that much and will do a better job.

My friend is supposed to spray it with a gun instead of a can at the body shop.
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Originally Posted by latravcha (Post 800914)
If you spend some time and compound and wax that hull it will look brand new.

That is the plan! I found someone local that is trustworthy to fix the rear. I have some really good friends.

Thanks for the advice and concern guys. I am a sponge, I want to keep my family safe.

Broke Down 07-13-2016 11:31 PM

I ran into an issue, I moved the boat back on the trailer where it is supposed to be and I can't put a transom saver on it, what can I do?

Gerald 07-14-2016 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Broke Down (Post 801090)
I ran into an issue, I moved the boat back on the trailer where it is supposed to be and I can't put a transom saver on it, what can I do?


Can you post a picture?

Most transom saver are adjustable and can be lengthen. Is it hitting the bottom of the boat?

If so, might have to raise the bunk boards to lift the boat.

perchman 07-14-2016 01:44 PM

Might have to weld a roller on the back end of trailer. Not touching the boat while on the trailer. Use it to put transom saver on it. Basically you are extending the trailer back four or five inches.

meaux fishing 07-14-2016 02:50 PM

I use motor stix and stabilizer clips. Never had a problem since I started using them. my motor would break the transom savers on bumpy roads before. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d446578577.jpg
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redaddiction 07-14-2016 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 801149)
I use motor stix and stabilizer clips. Never had a problem since I started using them. my motor would break the transom savers on bumpy roads before. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...d446578577.jpg
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Those don't do anything to protect the transom. The motor still bounces and torque's on the transom. You have to move that energy to somewheres else. Hence the transom saver.

With those sticks you're just carrying the load back to the same place when the motor bounces. All it really protects is your tilt/trim system maybe.

meaux fishing 07-14-2016 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 801153)
Those don't do anything to protect the transom. The motor still bounces and torque's on the transom. You have to move that energy to somewheres else. Hence the transom saver.



With those sticks you're just carrying the load back to the same place when the motor bounces. All it really protects is your tilt/trim system maybe.



Transoms don't get torqued when you are running and hitting big waves?

redaddiction 07-14-2016 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 801171)
Transoms don't get torqued when you are running and hitting big waves?


Yeah, good point. I'm sure they do to some extent. But you don't have your lower unit sticking out like a pendulum acting as leverage like you do when hitting a pothole in the road. Or when going over that darn overpass in Franklin on Hwy 90. LOL

meaux fishing 07-14-2016 07:39 PM

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meaux fishing 07-14-2016 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 801172)
Yeah, good point. I'm sure they do to some extent. But you don't have your lower unit sticking out like a pendulum acting as leverage like you do when hitting a pothole in the road. Or when going over that darn overpass in Franklin on Hwy 90. LOL



Yeah that road broke 2 transom savers on my boat lol. That's why I switched to the motor stix.

redaddiction 07-14-2016 08:08 PM

Most motor manufacturers recommend trailering your boat with the motor trimmed completely down and vertical. This has the least amount of stress on the transom if not using a saver. Because of the absence of the torque effect. But that only works if you have enough ground clearance. Which most boat/motors do not. Those big offshore boats being pulled around on triple axle trailers don't need to stinking transom saver!! lol

B-Stealth 07-14-2016 11:21 PM

It makes me cringe when I see people trailering boats with the engine locked out all the way up.

clay67 07-15-2016 01:50 AM

When I would tilt my motor up it looked like the powerhead would tilt over the pivot point therefore transferring weight to the boat side. Have you ever tilted up a 25hp and it is easier to hold up at full tilt than a slight tilt? After awhile I decided to quit using the transom saver because I felt the tilt system was more prone to damage. Unfortunately for me I didn't keep my bay boat long enough to see if transom would have issues.

alphaman 07-15-2016 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by B-Stealth (Post 801185)
It makes me cringe when I see people trailering boats with the engine locked out all the way up.

Yes that crazy watching the transom torque BC the motor bouncing[emoji15]

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Broke Down 07-15-2016 03:40 PM

Well that got the topic going...lol. I don't have a current picture right now but the motor trimmed all the way down almost hits the ground. The trailer frame stops right behind the rear axle and some huge bunk boards support the rest of the load. It is a magic tilt trailer. So when the boat is loaded the rear frame and/or roller is under neath the boat about 2 feet or so. When I get back home I'll post some pictures.

Broke Down 07-18-2016 06:37 PM

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I have some pictures today. Where should my boat be on the trailer?

Broke Down 07-18-2016 06:40 PM

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Broke Down 07-18-2016 06:42 PM

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redaddiction 07-18-2016 06:53 PM

Boat looks right. But the bunks need to be moved forward on the trailer it looks like.

Broke Down 07-18-2016 07:23 PM

That is exactly what I was thinking. I have never owned a trailer like this. Should I run them up even with the back of the boat?

redaddiction 07-18-2016 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Broke Down (Post 801505)
That is exactly what I was thinking. I have never owned a trailer like this. Should I run them up even with the back of the boat?


I would do that. That trailer might not be the original one for that boat.

Broke Down 07-18-2016 09:57 PM

I don't think it is. I believe the original was a single axle. I just noticed the rear axle is welded 1 inch off center, I need to grind the saddles back off and weld them back on. I changed the lights out to led a few minutes ago and got the engine to turn over. Hopefully tomorrow I'll mount some brackets on the rear boards to tie down to. Now I need to see what to do about the transom saver.

redaddiction 07-18-2016 10:35 PM

They make an offset transom saver. It has an angle to it. For your situation.

Broke Down 07-18-2016 10:36 PM

Thanks! I'll try looking some more.

Gerald 07-18-2016 11:07 PM

That trailer looks like it is made for a 22' or 24' boat.

How much weight is on the tongue of the trailer? If it is too much, then the boat needs to be moved back.

If the tongue weight is good, I would cut off the bulk board even with or a couple inches shorter than the back of the boat.

If you move the boat back some..... then it looks like the front of the trailer is longer than what is needed. I cut off about 15" off the front tongue on my new trailer when I bought the boat.

Another option would be to move the trailer axils up some, but this might be difficult..... can't tell from your pictures.

Something to consider is......for your size boat and it's weight, do you need 2 axils to support the weight? I don't know the answer to that.

IMO.... the most important thing is to have the correct weight on the trailer hitch.

Broke Down 07-18-2016 11:33 PM

I can barely pick it up and swing it around, I know it is a couple of hundred for sure. If I move it back I have too much tail weight. I think it is fine where it is as far as weight goes. I might look for another trailer down the road. I will make this one work for now.

Gerald 07-19-2016 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Broke Down (Post 801532)
I can barely pick it up and swing it around, I know it is a couple of hundred for sure. If I move it back I have too much tail weight. I think it is fine where it is as far as weight goes. I might look for another trailer down the road. I will make this one work for now.

I would move the boat back to get some of the weight off of your truck boat hitch. Too much weight on the bumper, takes weight off your front tires, and therefore you have lost some control of your driving.

Broke Down 07-19-2016 03:45 PM

Thanks.

I picked up a motor to transom brace today. Plus I got the wiring harness ordered. Hopefully within a week I'll be running it.

meaux fishing 07-20-2016 07:42 AM

You aren't supposed to be able to pick up the front of a bay boat. It looks to me like that is right where the boat is supposed to sit on the trailer.

perchman 07-20-2016 01:44 PM

yep you should not b able to pick it up. Leave it where it is. If you move it back, it will b hard to pull around 50 mph or above. Wreck waiting to happen.

Broke Down 07-21-2016 02:20 PM

That is why I left it where it is, when I slid it back I grabbed the hitch to make sure I wasn't light on the tongue. Once I load it up and ever put too much in the back I don't want to have to worry about it slinging me around. I am pulling this with a 3/4 ton diesel but y'all know as well as I do you can lose one quick. I might build two braces for the front of the boat to take the stress off the roller, I am worried about busting the gel coat there. Thanks guys.

Broke Down 07-22-2016 09:28 PM

Finally got some part numbers today and found a wiring harness and some other parts on fleabay for pretty cheap. Hopefully I'll have it running next weekend. My momentum got slowed down when I noticed a spider bite on my leg. Back on track now!

la_suthrn_soldier 07-24-2016 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by B-Stealth (Post 801185)
It makes me cringe when I see people trailering boats with the engine locked out all the way up.

I don't know.... the factory motor locks are in the almost upright position.... unless those locks are for something else..... but I assumed they were to lock the motor in place during trailering, AND they seem to center the weight of the motor over the transom..... maybe I'm way off, can anyone clarify??

specknation 07-26-2016 09:22 PM

Actually the Yamaha Wedge condom style saver is warrantied by all major brands of motors. They say is distributes the weight of the motor better, and is actually better than the old style transom saver. I have been using one for 8 years plus no problems.

Broke Down 07-26-2016 11:07 PM

I'll have to look that up, thanks!

I got my injectors in today, harness should be here tomorrow.

Broke Down 07-28-2016 12:31 AM

Got all my parts in today, installed them and fired it up for the first time! I can't wait, I might be able to take it out on the water for the first time by tomorrow afternoon.

Broke Down 07-28-2016 07:56 PM

Finally got all the parts changes, news hoses, and everything tested. Took the boat for an hour joy ride today, I really like the boat! On a side note, the trailer sucked. It really isn't the trailer for the boat. I might sell this one and find a single axle trailer.

Broke Down 08-01-2016 05:35 PM

Got a 17 pitch prop on it now and it flies, all I need now is a trolling motor. I'm looking for a 70lb thrust if anyone has one they want to let go.

B-Stealth 08-01-2016 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Broke Down (Post 802837)
Got a 17 pitch prop on it now and it flies, all I need now is a trolling motor. I'm looking for a 70lb thrust if anyone has one they want to let go.

You should be able to find a 70lb pretty easy for a good price, lots of people upgrade from 70lb to a 36Volt motor.

perchman 08-02-2016 03:06 PM

Mercury says if you tilt the motor all the way over and then lower the motor support the weight is on the boat side and does not need and transom saver.

Broke Down 08-05-2016 10:19 PM

Thanks guys.

Broke Down 08-05-2016 10:20 PM

Going to finish painting the motor this weekend. I will just need to order stickers next.

Broke Down 08-07-2016 09:15 PM

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Got some paint laid down this afternoon.

iron man 08-08-2016 08:00 AM

Lookin good so far!


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