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saltysully 10-21-2015 02:33 PM

question about fishing under the birds
 
I have a 20 foot sea hunt and have tried to catch the specs under the birds. However, each time i approach the birds and no matter how slow or fast I approach them, they take to the sky. I think it may be because either the boat is bright white or the center console is kind of high, or the whole boat itself sits pretty high off the water. any of you guys have any tips or suggestions?

"W" 10-21-2015 02:44 PM

Fish don't fly ... They still there

saltysully 10-21-2015 02:45 PM

good advice. I'll give it a try.

capt coonassty 10-21-2015 02:53 PM

These birds you speak of. Are they just sitting on the water?

elebouef 10-21-2015 03:32 PM

Maybe they get up in the air so they can crap on you because you want their place

jl8200 10-21-2015 03:36 PM

They probably don't like you potlicking them.

tboy 10-21-2015 04:05 PM

Stop waxing that thing. Maybe after it dulls a bit you'll have better luck.

bayouchub 10-21-2015 04:07 PM

You gotta run up on em faster preferably wide open if conditions allow.

Johnpius 10-21-2015 04:10 PM

Fish under diving birds. Birds just sitting on the water are not good. I ease up with my trolling motor if at all possible.

capt coonassty 10-21-2015 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnpius (Post 776442)
Fish under diving birds. Birds just sitting on the water are not good. I ease up with my trolling motor if at all possible.

I've been bringing duck decoys fishing with me for years. It all makes sense now.

DaPointIsDaBomb 10-21-2015 05:11 PM

The specks actually follow the birds. Get some seagull decoys and put them out with some bread. Gulls will come and so will the fish

"W" 10-21-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaPointIsDaBomb (Post 776450)
The specks actually follow the birds. Get some seagull decoys and put them out with some bread. Gulls will come and so will the fish

Dude really ? Giving all my secrets away on the World Wide Web ?

Renegade 10-21-2015 06:24 PM

Paint your boat blue to camouflage it from the birds and the fish.

alphaman 10-21-2015 06:39 PM

fish a few yards behind the birds sometimes they arent right under the birds.

mrex 10-21-2015 07:21 PM

If you want a record sail cat just throw a top water where you see a bunch of Pelicans sitting on the water.


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jl8200 10-21-2015 07:40 PM

There's so much great advice on this thread I can hardly believe it. I'm definitely going to try the bread and seagull decoy technique. I assume that I could pick some up at Academy...i'll bet they are expensive though since they work so well.

mrex 10-21-2015 07:49 PM

Puff Cheetos's will bring in the birds.


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B-Stealth 10-21-2015 08:02 PM

I would get that console cut down; the higher profile boats spook the birds much more. The birds in S. Texas and Florida spook easily for some reason, and that's what they use low profile flats boats.

Sometimes I take my Banded Gear Max4D camo sneak boat out and hammer the specks under the birds.

saltysully 10-21-2015 09:52 PM

wow! so much advice. not sure which one to use first.

saltysully 10-21-2015 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by capt coonassty (Post 776434)
These birds you speak of. Are they just sitting on the water?

they're diving

saltysully 10-21-2015 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by B-Stealth (Post 776472)
I would get that console cut down; the higher profile boats spook the birds much more. The birds in S. Texas and Florida spook easily for some reason, and that's what they use low profile flats boats.

Sometimes I take my Banded Gear Max4D camo sneak boat out and hammer the specks under the birds.

figured that was the problem..

C-Bass2mouth 10-22-2015 10:25 AM

You guys are a-holes...

redchaserron 10-22-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by saltysully (Post 776483)
they're diving

Good, the birds that are diving and hitting the water hard are the ones you want to fish under. You never want to waste your time fishing under birds that are swooping down and just pecking at the surface.

wishin i was fishin 10-22-2015 11:54 AM

http://www.lafishblog.com/?s=birds

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blackmamba 10-22-2015 12:12 PM

The best way to sneak up on em and not spook em is by kayak. Now it gets tricky if the flock starts to move. The trick is to find a flock with big Pelicans and when they start to fly away you cast and hook a pelican and then hope it drags you right behind the flock. Put that rod in one of the many rod holders (I like back left rod holder because it's of the way of my cast) and fish with another one. Thank me later!

B-Stealth 10-22-2015 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Bass2mouth (Post 776517)
You guys are a-holes...

I was assuming he was joking; but I could be wrong.



Sully does your boat have a trolling motor?

AcadianaProp 10-22-2015 01:03 PM

Entertainment at it's finest

meaux fishing 10-22-2015 03:32 PM

LMAO!!!

If you dont have a trolling motor set up a drift upcurrent or upwind of the birds and drift through them with your motor off once you quit catching start the motor go back upwind and repeat

B-Stealth 10-22-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 776544)
LMAO!!!

If you dont have a trolling motor set up a drift upcurrent or upwind of the birds and drift through them with your motor off once you quit catching start the motor go back upwind and repeat

Or if you have a 2-Stroke outboard you can install an aftermarket muffler that works well and won't spook the fish. Not needed for the 4-stroke, but keep the RPM's low and the prop submerged.

jpeff31787 10-22-2015 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmamba (Post 776527)
The best way to sneak up on em and not spook em is by kayak. Now it gets tricky if the flock starts to move. The trick is to find a flock with big Pelicans and when they start to fly away you cast and hook a pelican and then hope it drags you right behind the flock. Put that rod in one of the many rod holders (I like back left rod holder because it's of the way of my cast) and fish with another one. Thank me later!


This guy ^^^ LMAO


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Andy C 10-22-2015 07:35 PM

I have been doing it wrong all these years!!!

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specknation 10-22-2015 08:35 PM

Always put on your best real tree camo when fishing birds,and don't forget to put scent block on your camos them trout can smell you from a long ways off.

Duck Butter 10-22-2015 08:58 PM

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Don't listen to these guys about using camo. You need to make the birds feel comfortable so they wont spook. Wear this and they will accept you as one of their own

Marque 10-23-2015 01:12 AM

I find fishing birds to be a losing proposition 75% of the time. This time of year they are mostly on gaff tops and sand trout. I find the groups of 5 to 10 birds in a tight formation the most productive. A group of 20 spread out and hovering is going to be small fish and will most likely be moving to fast to keep up with on the trolling motor. I try to get in behind them because I think that the feeding fish are basically facing the same way as the feeding birds. I like to throw tsunami type swim baits and work them with the current. Birds and fish usual feed facing into the current. I have approached them from upwind/current before and not had a bite until I drifted down current enough to present the bait with the current. I find the bigger fish corral the school of bait a lot tighter than the little ones. If you get on a school of decent trout under birds you can almost anchor because the birds won't move far.

Trout rivers 10-23-2015 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marque (Post 776582)
I find fishing birds to be a losing proposition 75% of the time. This time of year they are mostly on gaff tops and sand trout. I find the groups of 5 to 10 birds in a tight formation the most productive. A group of 20 spread out and hovering is going to be small fish and will most likely be moving to fast to keep up with on the trolling motor. I try to get in behind them because I think that the feeding fish are basically facing the same way as the feeding birds. I like to throw tsunami type swim baits and work them with the current. Birds and fish usual feed facing into the current. I have approached them from upwind/current before and not had a bite until I drifted down current enough to present the bait with the current. I find the bigger fish corral the school of bait a lot tighter than the little ones. If you get on a school of decent trout under birds you can almost anchor because the birds won't move far.

Salty sully ......this so far is the only true post and a good one too Marque can catch..... I knew the guys where going to bust you hard when I seen your post lol

Scankdog 10-23-2015 09:58 AM

run a 5 ft fishing line with a cork on the first speck you catch and put him back into the water lolol...he will follow the school......:)...screw the birds hahaha

fishfighter 10-23-2015 10:17 AM

hahaha
 
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Originally Posted by Scankdog (Post 776613)
run a 5 ft fishing line with a cork on the first speck you catch and put him back into the water lolol...he will follow the school......:)...screw the birds hahaha

you better put three on him, there is no way he can go down with three

Marque 10-23-2015 06:59 PM

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Salty sully ......this so far is the only true post and a good one too Marque can catch..... I knew the guys where going to bust you hard when I seen your post lol

I didn't read all the threads but I should have. Anything mentioning birds or the weirs on this site gets sideways quick. I freely admit to be a first rate snob when it comes to fishing, but I can't hold a candle to the Salty Cajun elite. You guys are my heroes.

Trout rivers 10-23-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marque (Post 776687)
I didn't read all the threads but I should have. Anything mentioning birds or the weirs on this site gets sideways quick. I freely admit to be a first rate snob when it comes to fishing, but I can't hold a candle to the Salty Cajun elite. You guys are my heroes.

haha exactly! definitely breaks the monotony

pricecb 10-25-2015 01:06 PM

cheetos and bread is for rookies. I have invented a gull feed that floats just below the surface so the gull dive in the water the splash is what really bring in the trout.

450$ for a 50 pound sack. 875 for 2.

Cjleger337 10-26-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by saltysully (Post 776429)
I have a 20 foot sea hunt and have tried to catch the specs under the birds. However, each time i approach the birds and no matter how slow or fast I approach them, they take to the sky. I think it may be because either the boat is bright white or the center console is kind of high, or the whole boat itself sits pretty high off the water. any of you guys have any tips or suggestions?

They could be liar gulls. Not every group of birds that is diving is diving on shrimp. The laughing seagull is the bird youre looking for, and there are usually a bunch of them when the bite is on under birds. If you cant see shrimp popping the surface, then its also probably not worth your time because there arent any fish below driving them to the surface. There may still be fish there but you might just have to fish slower to hook up with them.

Also keep an eye out for gulls who are just sitting on the surface and picking at the water, these spots can be productive too.


All in all I think the most important part of fishing birds is to make sure they are diving on shrimp or else youll just most likely catch gaftops and bull reds if youre lucky.

jl8200 10-26-2015 09:36 AM

One thing's for sure you don't know till you try.

huntin fool 10-26-2015 12:28 PM

Have you tried fishing the birds behind the shrimp boat? I never have a problem with them leaving. Usually some solid trout under them

Rippinlips55 10-26-2015 12:33 PM

Shrimp boats an ships seem to have the most solid amount of birds that seem comfortable enough to not leave, you can usually run on step right up to them.

meaux fishing 10-26-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 776890)
Have you tried fishing the birds behind the shrimp boat? I never have a problem with them leaving. Usually some solid trout under them

lmao!!! I remember when yall told Jordan to do that

huntin fool 10-26-2015 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 776902)
lmao!!! I remember when yall told Jordan to do that

And look what happen. Dude caught a 4 ft Sailfish 20 miles out of Cameron, 60 trout, a limit of ling all 60+, and his red snapper.

B-Stealth 10-26-2015 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 776940)
And look what happen. Dude caught a 4 ft Sailfish 20 miles out of Cameron, 60 trout, a limit of ling all 60+, and his red snapper.

Lol, dude you gotta bring that thread back, I missed that.

tonyjohn 10-27-2015 01:17 AM

try robo gull ............awesome

Scankdog 10-27-2015 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pricecb (Post 776798)
cheetos and bread is for rookies. I have invented a gull feed that floats just below the surface so the gull dive in the water the splash is what really bring in the trout.

450$ for a 50 pound sack. 875 for 2.

lololol,,,,


bird splashing attracting the fish? lolol.....u gotta be kiddin


could of swore it was the bait both are chasing from on top and underneath haha...

pricecb 10-27-2015 03:36 PM

They made a cork that is claiming to attract fish by making feeding sounds. Why not birds diving to attract the fish.


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