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duckman1911 04-29-2015 08:58 PM

Straightforward or Rude?
 
Our shop is right across the road from a flea market. The market is set up in rows of metal buildings much like a storage unit. For the past few weeks there has been a truck with trailor pulling onto our lot and backing into the flea market almost daily. Today I caught him and knocked on his window.
Me. This is private property not a public turn around.
Him. Am I blocking your lot?
Me. No, but you do not have permission to use our property for your personal driveway.
Him. You're just being a hardazz.
Me. I just walked off as he left.
Later I was at the flea market and just happened to hear him talking to someone else about how much of a rude person I was. I walked right up to his drivers window and greeted him. It was rather funny. He said I was rude for telling him he had no permission to use our property for his personal driveway. I explained to him that I was not being rude I was being straightforward. I never raised my voice or used any profanity. I just explained to him that he was using private property without permission.
Best part. He was an off duty cop........*****

simplepeddler 04-29-2015 09:00 PM

my ex mother in law always said she was straight forward too..........LOL

T-Bone 04-29-2015 09:17 PM

Roll out the roofing nails next time you see him coming.

AubreyLaHaye458 04-29-2015 09:30 PM

If he's just pulling in to get straight to back in I don't see the big deal.


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redaddiction 04-29-2015 09:35 PM

Would you let him use your property if he asks permission?

duckman1911 04-29-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 751795)
If he's just pulling in to get straight to back in I don't see the big deal.


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True to a certain point. If he bumps into one of my customers cars and dents it but no one saw it and he backs away it becomes a big deal. A big deal I have to pay to fix.

AubreyLaHaye458 04-29-2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 751800)
True to a certain point. If he bumps into one of my customers cars and dents it but no one saw it and he backs away it becomes a big deal. A big deal I have to pay to fix.


This is true. And me having no idea what your place looks like would lead to this situation. lol


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duckman1911 04-29-2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 751797)
Would you let him use your property if he asks permission?

Yes. We discussed this later and I told him he could use the employee driveway but not our customer parking lot. I can't risk him denting a customers car.
If you saw the layout you would realize this guy should not be pulling or backing a trailor.

marty f 04-30-2015 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 751786)
Best part. He was an off duty cop........*****

Theres most of the problem:rolleyes::rolleyes:



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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 751795)
If he's just pulling in to get straight to back in I don't see the big deal.

At first I thought the same thing, but its his property, if he doesn't want this guy doing that he has the right to say STOP IT, cop or not.

MathGeek 04-30-2015 08:15 AM

Your property, your rules.

A property owner being assertive about how others are using his property without permission is not rude.

fishfighter 04-30-2015 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 751786)
Best part. He was an off duty cop........*****

get ready for extra patrols in your area, he will and he will have his people keep an extra scrutinizing eye on your area, and will probably be giving you trouble for any little thing hahahaha, better be on point cause the eyes of justice are up on you now :p:p

duckman1911 04-30-2015 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fishfighter (Post 751838)
get ready for extra patrols in your area, he will and he will have his people keep an extra scrutinizing eye on your area, and will probably be giving you trouble for any little thing hahahaha, better be on point cause the eyes of justice are up on you now :p:p

Not really worried about that since he's a sheriff's deputy and I happen to be friends with the sheriff. Always have an ace in the hole ;)

duckman1911 04-30-2015 02:19 PM

I do find it funny how cops are so quick to inform you that they are a cop. Does that make you special in some way? Not to me it doesn't.

Speck Attack 04-30-2015 03:15 PM

[QUOTE=AubreyLaHaye458;751795]If he's just pulling in to get straight to back in I don't see the big deal.

X2.....human kindness goes a long way...

Pull n Pray 04-30-2015 03:27 PM

It is your property, your rules.

But what is it hurting? Is he making ruts? Is he blocking your customers from entering and exiting. If he hits a car he will be liable for it. He just trying to make a living like everyone else. I'm sure most of here have a boat to pull and have used private property to turn around or make a wide turn.

duckman1911 04-30-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pull n Pray (Post 751940)
It is your property, your rules.

But what is it hurting? Is he making ruts? Is he blocking your customers from entering and exiting. If he hits a car he will be liable for it. He just trying to make a living like everyone else. I'm sure most of here have a boat to pull and have used private property to turn around or make a wide turn.

Can't disagree with you or speck to some extent. He will be liable for it if you assume it was witnessed or he is honest about hitting a customers vehicle and confesses. I hold no faith in the latter I assure you. Have had issues in the past with that place and their people. Swung by the shop one Saturday to pick up something and a guy had a full blown vending rig set up on our lot and was plugged into our electrical outlet. Needless to say he did not find me to be a very friendly person that day.

duckman1911 04-30-2015 03:47 PM

Had he asked there would be no issue. This is not an every now and then thing. It's almost daily.

Pull n Pray 04-30-2015 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 751944)
C. Have had issues in the past with that place and their people. Swung by the shop one Saturday to pick up something and a guy had a full blown vending rig set up on our lot and was plugged into our electrical outlet. Needless to say he did not find me to be a very friendly person that day.

I can't blame you for that. But don't let one bad apple ruin it for good people trying to make an honest buck.

Andy C 04-30-2015 04:32 PM

Get wireless cameras!! I know what your going tho, trying to make a living and not rape your customers ... as a "small business ower too it's well worth the money. Plus they got cheap in the last few years.. know it sucks but it is what it is in this day and time..

duckman1911 04-30-2015 04:34 PM

My point was (perhaps I should have explained better) that we live in such a watered down wussified world that if you tell it like it is you are considered to be rude. A grown man shouldn't have to have stuff sugar coated. Tell me how it is wheteher I'm wrong or right. If I'm wrong I'll apologize but I don't need it sugar coated.

swampman46 04-30-2015 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 751795)
If he's just pulling in to get straight to back in I don't see the big deal.


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That is the wrong answer on so many levels. Instead of the driver appologizing for the intrusion, like a real man should...he cops an attitude with the property owner for bringing it up. Yeah...no big deal there.

AubreyLaHaye458 04-30-2015 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 751963)
That is the wrong answer on so many levels. Instead of the driver appologizing for the intrusion, like a real man should...he cops an attitude with the property owner for bringing it up. Yeah...no big deal there.


I must have misread my original statement. Because I don't see anywhere in there where I said it was okay for him to catch an attitude.


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tojoe 04-30-2015 05:05 PM

So true!!!

swampman46 04-30-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 751966)
I must have misread my original statement. Because I don't see anywhere in there where I said it was okay for him to catch an attitude.


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Cmon man, forget the play on words...you know what I'm talking about. The attitude was part of the whole encounter.

AubreyLaHaye458 04-30-2015 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by swampman46 (Post 751969)
Cmon man, forget the play on words...you know what I'm talking about. The attitude was part of the whole encounter.


No you c'mon. If you'd pay attention to what I wrote you'd be able to see that I was talking about the situation as a whole and not about the one encounter. Because in no way is it okay for anyone to catch an attitude with a landowner in any situation. And until I understood the situation about there being customers cars parked in the area the other guy was using I didn't see what the big deal was.


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duckman1911 04-30-2015 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 751971)
No you c'mon. If you'd pay attention to what I wrote you'd be able to see that I was talking about the situation as a whole and not about the one encounter. Because in no way is it okay for anyone to catch an attitude with a landowner in any situation. And until I understood the situation about there being customers cars parked in the area the other guy was using I didn't see what the big deal was.


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Justifiably so A. Perhaps I should have been a little more thorough in my original post. He is posibly causing an issue with our business or one of our customers. My biggest thing was that a grown man couldn't handle another man just telling it like it was. If I wrong you then tell me. I don't need you to say please or thank you. Just shoot it to me straight. We live in a world of puzzies.

jl8200 04-30-2015 07:49 PM

Dude u didn't do anything wrong. You just said what the deal was. I don't know how else to say "hey I noticed that you have been using my drive way and it is an issue for me and I would appreciate it if you would not use my drive way". Well I guess you could have said "please stay the f u ck off my drive way" but that just might have been a little rough. If someone is doing something wrong its not always easy to point it out. He basically put you in a bad position making you have to bring it up.



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Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 751975)
Justifiably so A. Perhaps I should have been a little more thorough in my original post. He is posibly causing an issue with our business or one of our customers. My biggest thing was that a grown man couldn't handle another man just telling it like it was. If I wrong you then tell me. I don't need you to say please or thank you. Just shoot it to me straight. We live in a world of puzzies.


Matt G 04-30-2015 08:14 PM

We've had similar issues at our shop. Our yard is connected to the parking lot of one of my grandpas rental building, which just so happens to be a bar. We'll have people drive through our yard to get to the bar, drive through our yard DRUNK leaving the bar, and use our yard as overflow when the bar parking lot is full. We mentioned it to the owner of the bar and to my grandpa. Being its a business, it puts a lot at stake. They could mess up our equipment, customers equipment, or worse, hurt themselves on our property and sue for being drunk idiots. It's not the fact of being an a-hole. It's protecting what you worked for. It's a sue happy world and someone is always looking to get something for nothing........ And people are just pu$$ies. Everybody gets a trophy and God forbid you tell somebody something they don't like, regardless of if they were in the wrong to begin with. All you can do is bring it to their attention in a polite and professional manner and hope they aren't the "entitled" type.

yigodiver 04-30-2015 08:53 PM

Man all you all are too politically correct! When someone is so polite, for example when their dog poops in my yard just off my patio, and I mention it to the neighbor, he said well, "it is because I have a small dog" same guy did back flips when my lab got away and unloaded in his yard. Not to mention we have a leash law which is non-existant in his mind.
Needless to say if you are polite idoits still dont get the point.
SO, a house was built across the street, and my drive was a common turn around, I let it go for some time, then after all the mud on my driveway (not from me) and ruts from non-backers, I let loose on some and my problem went away, but now I am not the 'neighborhood good guy'.
Good job for speaking up for what you believe in!!!

Goooh 04-30-2015 09:50 PM

Dude, he's a cop!

http://youtu.be/pKMbYx_b5x0

Doing the job you can't do. Who made that famous quote a few days ago?

fishfighter 05-01-2015 06:23 AM

Lol
 
Cheese burger

http://youtu.be/_MIQ8No2WZs

BuckingFastard 05-01-2015 06:38 AM

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Best part. He was an off duty cop........*****[/QUOTE]

well this is why he didnt just say, "sorry, i wont do it again" :shaking:

i would have told him the same thing the first time and quite a bit more the second time. damage to your cement will be on you, not him.

marty f 05-01-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 752008)
Dude, he's a cop!

http://youtu.be/pKMbYx_b5x0

Doing the job you can't do. Who made that famous quote a few days ago?


yeah I laughed my ars off when I read that the other day:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by PEACEKEEPER (Post 748905)
. Because i stepped forward to do the job you could not do!.

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Originally Posted by marty f (Post 748926)
WOW................... easy there big fella :shaking:


Loneshark 05-01-2015 09:24 AM

A straight forward conversation would have been "I don't want you using my driveway."
Your statement, "Me. This is private property not a public turn around" could have come across as little sarcastic and rude. But I think he had thin skin.


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