Originally Posted by Insidiator (Post 710119)

Called Gougeon (sp?) by many older Cajuns. Pronounced "Goo-Jean" with silent n, rhymes with cochon, French for pig. Don't ask what it means.

Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 710196)

It's a slang term used by people that don't know it's actually called a Bullhead. I have never heard anyone refer to a Flathead as a mudcat. Not saying it doesn't happen I've just never heard it.

Originally Posted by Insidiator (Post 710119)

Called Gougeon (sp?) by many older Cajuns. Pronounced "Goo-Jean" with silent n, rhymes with cochon, French for pig. Don't ask what it means.

Originally Posted by Tjethro85 (Post 710219)

The last part jean or jonne i believe is French for orange or yellow. The gou jonne is usually followed by a cai for cat. My stepdad from mamou has always called then that. He also said that any mullet that calls a fine tasting catfish such as a flathead a mud cat is not very bright.

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 710204)

Common names can get confusing especially down here, everybody calls something by a different name referring to the same species.


a white perch in Louisiana isn't the same as a white perch in the north

what people call a 'pin oak' here isn't a true pin oak, we don't have true pin oaks in La

every brown snake in Louisiana is a 'ground rattler'

Heard several times of people calling moles that dig in the yard 'salamanders'. They would ask how to get rid of salamanders and to me a salamander is an amphibian but they kept calling them that. Well it was just a bastardization of the phrase 'soil mounder'.





(not sure what that last paragraph has to do with the subject or anything but anyway)

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 710222)

I've always know Em as goujon also. Caille means spotted.

Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 710229)

Can't tell you how many times I've had the "pin oak" argument with people. It's been a long time since high school ag class but its a water oak if I remember right. Help me out DB

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 710222)

I've always know Em as goujon also. Caille means spotted.

Originally Posted by Top Dawg (Post 710235)

Lol yea. Goujon for the mud cats/bullhead.

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 710236)

only a couyon eat a goujon














#awaitsanMGthreadaboutbullheadsecrets

Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 710239)

Back home(Oklahoma), a mud cat was typically found in ponds and slow moving creeks, rivers. They were very yellow in color, especially on their bellies. A BIG mud cat may make 3 lbs. and, in my opinion, isn't a single one worth eating. To me, they are the hard head of fresh water.

Outside of that, there was a channel cat, blue cat and, a flat head. And, for the love of God, they're friggin' crappie, not white perch or sacalait!

Ok, I feel better now.

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 710232)

my family calls willow oaks pin oaks but have also heard water oaks called pin oaks as well. Basically any oak flat that floods, you are hunting in a 'pin oak flat'

heard two sides of the argument for willow oaks as to why they are referred to as 'pin oaks', one is that the the leaf is long and pointed like a pin, the other is that these were the oaks that were found in the bottoms nearest the river, and the shipbuilders used this wood as the pins holding it together:confused:

Originally Posted by southern151 (Post 710239)

Back home(Oklahoma), a mud cat was typically found in ponds and slow moving creeks, rivers. They were very yellow in color, especially on their bellies. A BIG mud cat may make 3 lbs. and, in my opinion, isn't a single one worth eating. To me, they are the hard head of fresh water.

Outside of that, there was a channel cat, blue cat and, a flat head. And, for the love of God, they're friggin' crappie, not white perch or sacalait!

Ok, I feel better now.

Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 710251)

you mean there arent any pin oaks on hwy 15? :eek::eek: mind blown

Originally Posted by Duck Butter (Post 710256)

'the best damn duck club in Louisiana':rotfl:


they kilt most their 'pin oaks'

Originally Posted by lil bubba (Post 710281)

Never saw no white perch or none smell lika a pile of crappy.....SAC-A-LAIT.....They ain't white and don't stink.....Guess ya'll got another name for them green trouts too....And it make no difference what you call'm , the mudcat and flathead is two different fish....Ya'll done hijack goooh thread.....

Originally Posted by PotLikinisAhabbit (Post 710325)

So what you're sayin is if a mouse goes outside it becomes a rat and if a rat goes inside it becomes a mouse?

Originally Posted by Tjethro85 (Post 710219)

The last part jean or jonne i believe is French for orange or yellow. The gou jonne is usually followed by a cai for cat. My stepdad from mamou has always called then that. He also said that any mullet that calls a fine tasting catfish such as a flathead a mud cat is not very bright.

Originally Posted by cajunduck man (Post 710333)

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

Originally Posted by cajunduck man (Post 710333)

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

Originally Posted by cajunduck man (Post 710333)

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 710342)

Goujon is actually a French automobile.

Originally Posted by cajunduck man (Post 710333)

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after
WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

Originally Posted by cajunduck man (Post 710333)

I agree with your step-dad about confusing a mud cat with a flathead. Actually in French, or in this case the Cajun French dialect a mudcat is called goujon in most areas. In the area around Mamou that your step-dad is from they did add the word jaune which is French for yellow; hence goujon-jaune (yellow catfish). The Opealousas catfish was referred to as a goujon-caille (spotted catfish, caille pronounced "ky" is French for spot or spotted). Other areas of Cajun country referred to a mudcat just goujon. My dad and his friends (Acadia and St. Landry Parish) often referred to an Opealousas cat by it's slang name in French "manche-ouaouaron" which translated literally means bullfrog eater. Blue cats and channel cats were called "barbue" (bar-boo). The word for cat is "chat" pronounced "shah" so if that was put on the end of the word in French around that area I'm glad that I was able to learn another name for that catfish. I'm sure that there were other names for these fish as many of these communities were pretty much isolated until after WWII and there were many dialects and slangs among the Cajun French. One of my favorites was the French word "caouanne" pronounced ka-wan. (short a and don't pronounce the n) which means logger-head or snapping turtle. In some areas, I guess it was because of snapping turtle the word was slang for something that women had and men wanted.

Originally Posted by duckman1911 (Post 710247)

White perch.lmao :grinpimp:

Originally Posted by Tjethro85 (Post 710254)

Sac a lait. People that say crappie are a dead give away for being from out of state(Yankees)

Originally Posted by Tjethro85 (Post 710255)

Okie=Yankee