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angelfish 07-27-2014 11:24 AM

what kind of catfish is this?
 
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:help: Hey guys, I recently set out a trotline and caught a few catfish, I came across one I am having troubling identifying. Could you tell me what kind of catfish this is? I was thinking possible mud cat?!?! Thanks in advance.

H2OFwlKlr 07-27-2014 11:26 AM

Definitely mud cat, aka yellow cat.

Goooh 07-27-2014 11:40 AM

^^ People love em, I think they taste like mud.

wed68 07-27-2014 11:41 AM

Looks like a small flathead or Op ...... Not yellow enough for a mud cat?


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Goooh 07-27-2014 11:47 AM

Yellow, Appaloosa, mud, flathead are all the same fosh

simplepeddler 07-27-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 709884)
Yellow, Appaloosa, mud, flathead are all the same fosh

really? had no idea............

Clampy 07-27-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 709884)
Yellow, Appaloosa, mud, flathead are all the same fosh

A mud cat is a bullhead catfish.
Which is what is pictured here.
Flat heads are a different genus.

Bluechip 07-27-2014 11:52 AM

Someone needs too figure this out. Y'all have me confused.

Goooh 07-27-2014 11:53 AM

what kind of catfish is this?
 
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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 709888)
A mud cat is a bullhead catfish.
Which is what is pictured here.
Flat heads are a different genus.


Touché

A yellow is still a mud, Opelousas, flathead, etc though (pylodictis)

Bullhead - Ameiurus

jchief 07-27-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 709888)
A mud cat is a bullhead catfish.
Which is what is pictured here.
Flat heads are a different genus.

Correct.

I think......:spineyes:

But it is definitely a mud or yellow cat.

1fastmerc 07-27-2014 11:55 AM

Not sure on type of catfish but I do know that mud and opps are not the same.

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Clampy 07-27-2014 11:55 AM

Yeah. Same thing to me.
Bullhead
Mud Cat
Yellow Cat
Coulee Cat

Clampy 07-27-2014 11:57 AM

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Goooh 07-27-2014 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 709892)
Not sure on type of catfish but I do know that mud and opps are not the same.

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They in fact are the same... Just to you they aren't. From Oklahoma to Florida the flathead cat is synonymous with having tons of other names, Mud Cat is one of them.

The bullhead is also called a mud cat

Clampy 07-27-2014 11:57 AM

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duckman1911 07-27-2014 12:04 PM

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Its a Bullhead and they taste just fine to me. To each his own.

duckman1911 07-27-2014 12:09 PM

Bullheads and Flatheads are indeed different fish. Bullheads do not get very big. A 3lb'r is a good sized one. Flatheads as everyone knows will get big. 52lbs is my biggest.

MathGeek 07-27-2014 12:23 PM

As y'all might have guessed, MathGeek is a fan of bullheads. We catch quite a few when targeting freshwater catfish. When I feel a 1-3 lb fish, I'd usually prefer to see a channel catfish when it reaches the top, but bullheads go straight in the box too. Taste is about the same. Channel cats yield a bit more meat for the same size fish, in my experience.

1fastmerc 07-27-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 709895)
They in fact are the same... Just to you they aren't. From Oklahoma to Florida the flathead cat is synonymous with having tons of other names, Mud Cat is one of them.

The bullhead is also called a mud cat

My family catches quite a few catfish every yr. I'm pretty sure a mudcat and a opp is not the same.

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Goooh 07-27-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 709900)
My family catches quite a few catfish every yr. I'm pretty sure a mudcat and a opp is not the same.

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Try google.

duckman1911 07-27-2014 12:39 PM

The lake we catch bullheads in we never catch them in areas with a mud bottom. We only catch them in places that have a good amount of grass on the bottom. The grass is growing out of the mud bottom so it may be a mute point.lol.

duckman1911 07-27-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MathGeek (Post 709899)
As y'all might have guessed, MathGeek is a fan of bullheads. We catch quite a few when targeting freshwater catfish. When I feel a 1-3 lb fish, I'd usually prefer to see a channel catfish when it reaches the top, but bullheads go straight in the box too. Taste is about the same. Channel cats yield a bit more meat for the same size fish, in my experience.

X2 on the meat yield.

1fastmerc 07-27-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 709901)
Try google.

I did. Do you catfish?

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MathGeek 07-27-2014 12:41 PM

There are a number of informal names and nicknames and regional names. Names like mud cat and yellow cat probably mean different things to different people.

The fish in the top picture looks a lot more like a bullhead than a flathead catfish.

jchief 07-27-2014 12:44 PM

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1fastmerc 07-27-2014 02:12 PM

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Jchief I can't see your attachment but this from the lwdf pamphlet.Attachment 72121Attachment 72121

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Goooh 07-27-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 1fastmerc (Post 709904)
I did. Do you catfish?

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I do, do you understand that mud cat is a slang term for a fish that can vary from parish to parish? Bulkheads and flatheads are MUDs - doesn't matter if your family only calls one of them a mud, the family down the road calls them both MUDs.

duckman1911 07-27-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 709951)
I do, do you understand that mud cat is a slang term for a fish that can vary from parish to parish? Bulkheads and flatheads are MUDs - doesn't matter if your family only calls one of them a mud, the family down the road calls them both MUDs.

Valid point Gooh. In Louisiana there certainly isn't a shortage of "well that's what my grandpa and my dad called it". I kinda like it that way. :).

SULPHITE 07-27-2014 03:59 PM

Mud cat are sometimes called polliwogs right??:spineyes:

Vermillionaire 07-27-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SULPHITE (Post 709959)
Mud cat are sometimes called polliwogs right??:spineyes:

That's correct

1fastmerc 07-27-2014 05:00 PM

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I do, do you understand that mud cat is a slang term for a fish that can vary from parish to parish? Bulkheads and flatheads are MUDs - doesn't matter if your family only calls one of them a mud, the family down the road calls them both MUDs.

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kibb 07-27-2014 06:21 PM

Mud cat and polliwog are the same.

Op, flathead, and yellow are the same.

Bullhead? I have no clue where they stand.

1fastmerc 07-27-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kibb (Post 709995)
Mud cat and polliwog are the same.

Op, flathead, and yellow are the same.

Bullhead? I have no clue where they stand.

I have heard a op/flathead called a yellow cat.

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Goooh 07-27-2014 06:48 PM

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If they are the same then why does even the Oklahoma wildlife and fisheries classify them different?Attachment 72137Attachment 72137Attachment 72137

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Genius! Read the frickin poster, it says they are both called mudcats.

Thanks for arguing though.

1fastmerc 07-27-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 710002)
Genius! Read the frickin poster, it says they are both called mudcats.

Thanks for arguing though.

Already resorted to name calling. If you feel like calling it a mud cat. Then knock yourself out. There is countless sites that will tell that they are different. Maybe called the same by some people who don't know the difference. You can eat a mudcat but I'll pass. Have a good day.

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T-TOP 07-27-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 710002)
Genius! Read the frickin poster, it says they are both called mudcats.

Thanks for arguing though.


But, they aren't the same fish at all. The original post is a yellow cat, or mudcat, not a flathead or Apalossa. You have to realize that???

redaddiction 07-27-2014 07:22 PM

How about everyone quit calling the fish by a nickname and call it by the scientific name so we can end this thread! :beathorse:

Goooh 07-27-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by T-TOP (Post 710005)
But, they aren't the same fish at all. The original post is a yellow cat, or mudcat, not a flathead or Apalossa. You have to realize that???


You have to realize we already covered that, read the damn thread.

I even agreed that bullhead (MUD) and Yellow/Flat/Opp/App/MUD were each from a different genus.

You have to realize that????????????????????

Bullhead is a MUD to some people.

Yellow is a MUD to some people

Both are different fish.

A tiger that ran through wet dirt is also a MUD CAT to some people, but is a totally different species - make sense?

Goooh 07-27-2014 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by redaddiction (Post 710012)
How about everyone quit calling the fish by a nickname and call it by the scientific name so we can end this thread! :beathorse:


Already did for the most part, problem is most of the folks on here don't read the threads. They'll ask for what bait someone caught fish on, and it's posted in the report 2 posts up!

Guess you missed it too?

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T-TOP 07-27-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 710013)
You have to realize we already covered that, read the damn thread.

I even agreed that bullhead (MUD) and Yellow/Flat/Opp/App/MUD were each from a different genus.

You have to realize that????????????????????

Bullhead is a MUD to some people.

Yellow is a MUD to some people

Both are different fish.

A tiger that ran through wet dirt is also a MUD CAT to some people, but is a totally different species - make sense?


Panties officially... in wad.....

PotLikinisAhabbit 07-27-2014 07:46 PM

Looks like a hybrid to me. Better call a mud cat expert for clarification

Top Dawg 07-27-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PotLikinisAhabbit (Post 710021)
Looks like a hybrid to me. Better call a mud cat expert for clarification

Or just a taxidermist

duckman1911 07-27-2014 11:10 PM

It's an eatdatcat. That's all you need to know.

silver_snipe 07-27-2014 11:29 PM

Throw you google experts a curveball it looks like a horned pout. Just a little bigger than what is typically caught up north. They have that kind of Catfish up north I found out when I was stationed way up north.

Goooh 07-28-2014 02:12 AM

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Throw you google experts a curveball it looks like a horned pout. Just a little bigger than what is typically caught up north. They have that kind of Catfish up north I found out when I was stationed way up north.


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Same thing, MUD CAT

Pull n Pray 07-28-2014 08:26 AM

Most coonass's call this a polliwog. I have no idea why probably french for something. We used to catch hundreds of these in stagnant bayous and farm ponds. The meat is a yellowish orange color. I can't taste the difference but I throw them back because they don't get very big unlike a flathead/OP.

Tjethro85 07-28-2014 09:17 AM

Please don't confuse a spotted cat/flathead for a mud cat. Spotted cat tastes great in a courtboullion, Mud cat doesn't

Goooh 07-28-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjethro85 (Post 710120)
Please don't confuse a spotted cat/flathead for a mud cat. Spotted cat tastes great in a courtboullion, Mud cat doesn't


Here goes another one

Tjethro85 07-28-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Goooh (Post 710122)
Here goes another one

Another one that grew up knowing the difference.

1fastmerc 07-28-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjethro85 (Post 710156)
Another one that grew up knowing the difference.

Lol. You want win. He'll argue till his phone dies or computer crashes.

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