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Ed32 06-16-2014 07:33 AM

weed killer
 
what is effective in keeping grass and broad leaf down. i'm using some stuff from the feedstore for my ditches and it seems the grass is growing back in a couple of weeks. thanks

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 07:42 AM

weed killer
 
If you can get roundup and 2-4D that will kill almost everything but cocoa grass/sedge grass. Likely if it comes back in a couple weeks what you're spraying is just a burn down chemical and not an actual weed killer.


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meaux fishing 06-16-2014 07:43 AM

weed killer
 
Mixture of roundup/2-4-D will kill almost anything that grows in your yard. Mix it at about a 2% solution. Oh and get the generic roundup. I think I pay $40 for 2.5 gallons

Chip Landry 06-16-2014 07:56 AM

Been wanting to ask this cuz I use round up and it's only been keeping the weeds back for about 2-3 weeks.. How long does the 2-4D/round up mixture keep weeds down?

Matt G 06-16-2014 08:04 AM

Same problem here. I've been using Hi-Yield Killzall from True Value and it kills it quick. It just doesn't stay dead for long. I came across some ground clearer granules the other day at Lowes and thought about giving that a shot.

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 08:25 AM

We probably spray Roundup/2-4D once a month. And once you get your lines established it takes very little to keep it back.


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Chip Landry 06-16-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 699573)
Mixture of roundup/2-4-D will kill almost anything that grows in your yard. Mix it at about a 2% solution. Oh and get the generic roundup. I think I pay $40 for 2.5 gallons

Where can you get the generic roundup?

Riceland 06-16-2014 09:11 AM

2-4D/round up mix works the best. Most feed stores carry the generic stuff as well as home depot. The feed shop in duson has the generic roundup called cornerstone, works well.

krazykat 06-16-2014 09:25 AM

Eraser is another generic round up type product.

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Riceland (Post 699597)
2-4D/round up mix works the best. Most feed stores carry the generic stuff as well as home depot. The feed shop in duson has the generic roundup called cornerstone, works well.


Yeahh. We use cornerstone and weedar(generic 2-4D)


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meaux fishing 06-16-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chip Landry (Post 699596)
Where can you get the generic roundup?


I buy it at Premier in Kaplan, but most feed stores and ranch supplies will have it. The brand they carry is honcho I think. The chemical is called glyphosate

keakar 06-16-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 699572)
If you can get roundup and 2-4D that will kill almost everything but cocoa grass/sedge grass. Likely if it comes back in a couple weeks what you're spraying is just a burn down chemical and not an actual weed killer.


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how can you tell the difference and what gives you the best value for results with weed and grass killers?

im looking for killing both to control all growth in certain unaccessible areas to the lawn mower and I am not as much worried about weeds out in the lawn.

I want scorched earth dead zones you spray just once and its dead for the entire summer kind of stuff and if the neighbors cat dies I can dig a hole lol.

I was thinking about mixing a little gasoline with used motor oil but that's messy and stains concrete.

meaux fishing 06-16-2014 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 699602)
Yeahh. We use cornerstone and weedar(generic 2-4D)


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Yeah I get weedar too

meaux fishing 06-16-2014 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 699611)
how can you tell the difference and what gives you the best value for results with weed and grass killers?

im looking for both to control all growth in certain unaccessible areas to the lawn mower and I am not as much worried about weeds out in the lawn.


2-4-D is a broadleaf herbicide and glyphosate is more for grasses, although it does work on broadleaf weeds

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 10:04 AM

What he said. ^^

It all comes down to the active ingredient. Glyphosate is the active ingredient in roundup and I THINK amine is the active ingredient in 2-4D.


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Lake Chuck Duck 06-16-2014 10:07 AM

I used eraser from the feed store just recently and had a similar problem. The st. augustine grass at the fence lines is dead, but is now being replaced with some other kind of odd grass I am not familiar with.

Paulox86 06-16-2014 10:11 AM

Mix a little diesel and a surfactant in with your weed killer. It usually lasts a while but in prime growing season it's hard to only spray once and be done.

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 10:12 AM

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I used eraser from the feed store just recently and had a similar problem. The st. augustine grass at the fence lines is dead, but is now being replaced with some other kind of odd grass I am not familiar with.


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Does it look like this?


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Elbert Chamblee 06-16-2014 10:40 AM

weed killer
 
free shipping and priced right. Reviews on how products work and information on what to use. Just remember about spraying some of the strong chemicals around where young kids and animals will use. I buy the eraser form these people and have had good luck. The roundup used to be 41% but now some is 18%. http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com

Lake Chuck Duck 06-16-2014 10:46 AM

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Does it look like this?


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No, that looks more like some nutsedge.

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 10:48 AM

Yeahh. That's what we have the most trouble with.


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keakar 06-16-2014 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 699614)
2-4-D is a broadleaf herbicide and glyphosate is more for grasses, although it does work on broadleaf weeds

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 699616)
What he said. ^^

It all comes down to the active ingredient. Glyphosate is the active ingredient in roundup and I THINK amine is the active ingredient in 2-4D.


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thanks, I am looking for something like a total vegetation herbicide to completely sterilize the soil under my house.

its completely surrounded by concrete so if I can sterilize the soil it should stay grass and weed free for a very long time but I may at some point have to crawl under there so I don't want to soak the soil in oil or diesel.

the rest of the yard I can do with weed and grass killers and the occasional weedeating but I cant do weedeating under the house and its 4 ft off the ground so it gets plenty of sunlight to make stuff grow.

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 699638)
thanks, I am looking for something like a total vegetation herbicide to completely sterilize the soil under my house.

its completely surrounded by concrete so if I can sterilize the soil it should stay grass and weed free for a very long time but I may at some point have to crawl under there so I don't want to soak the soil in oil or diesel.

the rest of the yard I can do with weed and grass killers and the occasional weedeating but I cant do weedeating under the house and its 4 ft off the ground so it gets plenty of sunlight to make stuff grow.


I don't know any names off the too of my head but I know that they seek ground sterilizers like for driveways and stuff. Where are you located?


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keakar 06-16-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AubreyLaHaye458 (Post 699643)
I don't know any names off the too of my head but I know that they seek ground sterilizers like for driveways and stuff. Where are you located?


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im in laplace but the actual house location where it is needed is in golden meadow

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 699651)
im in laplace but the actual house location where it is needed is in golden meadow


Ahhh. That's a bit out of my range. But any lawn and garden store should have some kind of ground sterilizer.


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meaux fishing 06-16-2014 12:24 PM

You probably need a chemical application license to "sterilize" the ground

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by meaux fishing (Post 699654)
You probably need a chemical application license to "sterilize" the ground


Or need to know somebody with one.


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keakar 06-16-2014 01:12 PM

thanks guys, i'll ask around and see

rardoin 06-16-2014 01:13 PM

Pramitol is what I have used in the past to sterilize a limestone driveway to prevent grass/weeds from growing between the tire paths.
works very well. I got a gallon of concentrate from a friend who farms rice and uses it along right of ways. I don't know if you have to be licensed or not but I did see some at Chastant Bro's feed store in Lafayette a few weeks back. Definitely scorched earth policy for a year!

keakar 06-16-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rardoin (Post 699667)
Pramitol is what I have used in the past to sterilize a limestone driveway to prevent grass/weeds from growing between the tire paths.
works very well. I got a gallon of concentrate from a friend who farms rice and uses it along right of ways. I don't know if you have to be licensed or not but I did see some at Chastant Bro's feed store in Lafayette a few weeks back. Definitely scorched earth policy for a year!

thanks, that sounds like what I need

kibb 06-16-2014 02:16 PM

weed killer
 
Hyvar is a soil sterilizer that you can buy at the feed store. I wouldn't recommend it for ditches though. It can kill crops if contaminated water is used for irrigation.

keakar 06-16-2014 02:52 PM

what about all those home made alternatives to round-up using vinegar and salt as weed killers I see on youtube? some recipe are straight vinager but they are all mostly vinager and salt but with some they also use dish soap and some use citrus oils too

do those really work as well as chemical weed killers?

kb7722 06-16-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 699638)
thanks, I am looking for something like a total vegetation herbicide to completely sterilize the soil under my house.

its completely surrounded by concrete so if I can sterilize the soil it should stay grass and weed free for a very long time but I may at some point have to crawl under there so I don't want to soak the soil in oil or diesel.

the rest of the yard I can do with weed and grass killers and the occasional weedeating but I cant do weedeating under the house and its 4 ft off the ground so it gets plenty of sunlight to make stuff grow.

Arsenal and oustxtra but you are not going to want to pay the price. Glyphosate and 2-4D will kill about anything. Just mix it at 3% to 5%. There is a chart in the book that will tell you oz to gal of water to get the %.

Ed32 06-16-2014 03:19 PM

thanks for all of the replies. i'm using honcho plus and shredder amine 4 that a farmer friend recommended it knocks it down but in a month i need to spray again. i was just wondering if there was something else that was better. what is the name of the generic round up?

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed32 (Post 699702)
thanks for all of the replies. i'm using honcho plus and shredder amine 4 that a farmer friend recommended it knocks it down but in a month i need to spray again. i was just wondering if there was something else that was better. what is the name of the generic round up?


There's a lot of them and each chemical company has their own. We use cornerstone.


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speck-chaser 06-16-2014 08:59 PM

The generic round up and 2-4d is a a great combination. Its not that the combo is not killing the grass, its that during our hot moist summers, new weed seeds sprout like crazy. I sometimes add a product called pendemethilum. Its like a pre emergent herbicide, that you can mix with your round up and 2-4d. It helps kill the weeds and seeds before they sprout up. Just be careful with some of those ground inert products. Those dont dilute fast like round up and can get into the ground water and travel a good ways and end up killing things you dont want them too.

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by speck-chaser (Post 699774)
The generic round up and 2-4d is a a great combination. Its not that the combo is not killing the grass, its that during our hot moist summers, new weed seeds sprout like crazy. I sometimes add a product called pendemethilum. Its like a pre emergent herbicide, that you can mix with your round up and 2-4d. It helps kill the weeds and seeds before they sprout up. Just be careful with some of those ground inert products. Those dont dilute fast like round up and can get into the ground water and travel a good ways and end up killing things you dont want them too.


Pendimethilin turned your hands and all your clothes yellow?


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speck-chaser 06-16-2014 10:06 PM

It did when my line on my spray tank burst in my face.lol
There is another one that isnt colored, but its about twice the price to not have the yellow color.:D

AubreyLaHaye458 06-16-2014 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by speck-chaser (Post 699792)
It did when my line on my spray tank burst in my face.lol
There is another one that isnt colored, but its about twice the price to not have the yellow color.:D


lol. I still have some clothes that are stained from that stuff.


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Lil Silver 06-17-2014 06:35 AM

I have a buddy that used to get his crawfish pot and dump a sack of water softener salt and boil it til it dissolved. After it cooled off, he would spray his limestone areas with it. I'm thinking bout giving that a try. I'm having the same problems with weeds sprouting back after a few weeks. Correct me if I'm wrong but the roundup and 2-4D types are systemic herbicides. These just get the ones that are above the ground with the plant visible. The pre-emergence ones are aystemic or sumpin like dat.

swamp snorkler 06-17-2014 06:49 AM

Keakar the vinegar stuff that you seen doesn't work.

When you on your way from LaPlace to GM stop in Raceland and get with Mike or Mr. Toddy and they will fix you up. They know what works and what doesn't.

In a 4 gallon sprayer I use 4 1/2 oz Roundup, 4 1/2 oz 2-4d and 1 oz of dish soap. That seems to keep everything brown

yigodiver 06-17-2014 08:22 AM

Here is some stuff that I used to use in Rural Electrical Substations. At that time I was a certified applicator for right-of way kills everything.
If you can fine Spike, it will do the trick for minimum of Five Years
Arsenal works well
Krovar is another that works well, but need a mix of Diuron.
Those are the ones I am familiar with. and that is why you see substations and no vegetation growing.
Not sure of the cost, it was supplied to me.
I have mix rates at the house I used to use.
Lastly, any of the mentioned above may not be good around water, but that depends on what the label states.

Salty 06-17-2014 09:49 AM

One word...........

ERASER

elebouef 06-17-2014 10:09 AM

Two words:

Weed Eater :spineyes:

keakar 06-17-2014 04:37 PM

thanks for the help guys

just wondering if any of these will help keep things like ants, fleas, and ground termites away as well?

do they kill everything above and below ground? would be a nice bonus.

speck-chaser 06-17-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by keakar (Post 699935)
thanks for the help guys

just wondering if any of these will help keep things like ants, fleas, and ground termites away as well?

do they kill everything above and below ground? would be a nice bonus.


Dont think thats gonna help with the bugs, but Talstar is one of the best things on the market for ants and Termidor is awesome for termites. I sell both at my nursery. Termidor is what is used by most of ther termite guys. Very good on flea infestations too. Also same ingredient in it as whats in your frontline dog, flea and tick medication. I also have some new bait that kills the rasberry crazy ants. If you dont know what they are, just wait a lil while, they are coming.:(

kb7722 06-17-2014 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 699855)
One word...........

ERASER

which is the same as cornerstone, ranger pro, roundup, joe blows weed killer,... 41% glyphosate


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