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"W" 11-22-2009 09:31 PM
Haynie Z21 Break in
 
YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

Nasty 11-22-2009 09:42 PM
How fast you were going when you hammered the beast?

Fishmaster 11-22-2009 09:53 PM
No video of fishing in it??

blackmamba 11-22-2009 09:56 PM
sweeett

yak'em-n-stack'em 11-22-2009 09:57 PM
2 questions

what made you decide on a merc.

was it broken in when you got it

all star rod 11-22-2009 09:58 PM
Nice....I see your were armed with your chart. color clip on cork....:*****::rotfl:

Do you have an hour meter?

"W" 11-22-2009 10:01 PM
That was barley over 3/4 open......... I was running at 4000rpm and went to 5000rpms.... we were going about 52-55mph right there.... you have to break it in between 3000rpms -5000rpms.....moving them around.....Chris that made the boat also put a lot of break in time already on the motor.... I haven't got it full throttle yet

fishinpox 11-22-2009 10:19 PM
i will never buy another boat unless the dealer does the first 5-10 hrs in the tank talk about nisarable with a yammy 4 stroke the first 2 hrs not above like 2000rmp!!

flounder_smacker 11-22-2009 10:29 PM
max rpm is 5750. you were past 3/4

"W" 11-22-2009 10:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 80753)
max rpm is 5750. you were past 3/4

Wrong:shaking::shaking::shaking::shaking::shaking:

flounder_smacker 11-22-2009 10:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by "W" (Post 80756)
Wrong:shaking::shaking::shaking::shaking::shaking:
http://www.mercurymarine.com/engines...pecs.php?ID=57

read it on mercs website. keep this in mind. the rev limiter on the optimax wont tap untill about 6200. recommended wot on that motor is 5750. the ecm or the computer on the motor will record every time you go over 5750 and can not be erased. when you blow your motor cause you run it over recommended rpm when you bring it in to have the power head swaped out because its still under warranty merc request a print out of the motor history off of the ecm. if they see you have been running over recommended rpm range they wont warranty any thing on the motor....EVER... i know this from personal experience.

"W" 11-22-2009 10:53 PM
Max RPM (WOT) 5500-6000

flounder_smacker 11-22-2009 11:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by "W" (Post 80766)
And this if coming for someone who had been fishing and running boats how long???? Thanks but No thanks!!! Dude I forgot more about boats and running boats than you have spent time on the water tying to learn about boats!!! I'm sure I know what I'm doing and also read the breaking Manuel from top to bottom 3 times before I purchased the boat on top of the time Chris put on it already!!! I'm sure we know more about it than you ! This engine and boat is made for speed!! you can push 6200rmps trimmed out wide open!!!
not trying to knock your boat but obviously your to ignorant to see im trying to give you advice. READ on mercs website the link i posted im not lying. and this is coming from someone who has worked on outboards for 7 years including merc yamaha honda evinrude. you just upgraded and you are excited but im just trying to give you a little advice but go head and burn your motor up and be stuck with a 2000 bill to fix it tard. and next time you think you know more about running boats than i do think again cause i can tear that merc down and put it back together before you can say optimax.

fishinpox 11-22-2009 11:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by "W" (Post 80774)
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:p:p:p
I dont know but I got Gilbert's Water Hose:p:p:p
:shaking::shaking::shaking::eek:

Salty 11-22-2009 11:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 80777)
not trying to knock your boat but obviously your to ignorant to see im trying to give you advice. READ on mercs website the link i posted im not lying. and this is coming from someone who has worked on outboards for 7 years including merc yamaha honda evinrude. you just upgraded and you are excited but im just trying to give you a little advice but go head and burn your motor up and be stuck with a 2000 bill to fix it tard. and next time you think you know more about running boats than i do think again cause i can tear that merc down and put it back together before you can say optimax.

Bet I can do it faster than he can spell "Optimax". :smokin:

fishinpox 11-22-2009 11:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty (Post 80780)
Bet I can do it faster than he can spell "Optimax". :smokin:


:spineyes::spineyes::*****::spineyes::spineyes:

"W" 11-22-2009 11:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 80777)
not trying to knock your boat but obviously your to ignorant to see im trying to give you advice. READ on mercs website the link i posted im not lying. and this is coming from someone who has worked on outboards for 7 years including merc yamaha honda evinrude. you just upgraded and you are excited but im just trying to give you a little advice but go head and burn your motor up and be stuck with a 2000 bill to fix it tard. and next time you think you know more about running boats than i do think again cause i can tear that merc down and put it back together before you can say optimax.

Good I have a 7 year warranty..........SO you can fix it for FREE:p

huntin fool 11-22-2009 11:14 PM
peeing contest time
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reel Bender (Post 80770)
Hey Fool where's that Bucket?


last i seen waltrip was using it....



My boat is bigger than all of yalls!

flounder_smacker 11-22-2009 11:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 80777)
not trying to knock your boat but obviously your to ignorant to see im trying to give you advice. READ on mercs website the link i posted im not lying. and this is coming from someone who has worked on outboards for 7 years including merc yamaha honda evinrude. you just upgraded and you are excited but im just trying to give you a little advice but go head and burn your motor up and be stuck with a 2000 bill to fix it tard. and next time you think you know more about running boats than i do think again cause i can tear that merc down and put it back together before you can say optimax.
dont work on them anymore. have moved to bigger better things. own a small workboat rental business. so again when you want to know something about boats....let me know, or you can rent one when that optipop goes in the shop.:smokin:

LaAngler 11-23-2009 09:24 AM
I feel like deleting a few comments and getting to the bottom of this. IF you over REV a mercury opti over 5750 the warranty is VOID? Yet the Rev limiter is set at 6200??? Hmmmmmm

W get off your high horse, your boat handling skills dont match your claim :p I had to stop the boat twice pulling up to the dock instead of you bumping her into reverse.

Red Devil 11-23-2009 10:07 AM
I belive the rev limiter is to keep you from blowing the engine to pieces. Probably has nothing to do with Mercs warranty as to recommended RPMs. Just my .02.

LaAngler 11-23-2009 10:16 AM
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But it would be easy to have the prop blow out with the jack plate or trim too high, then warranty void???

:*****:

Ray 11-23-2009 10:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishinpox (Post 80749)
i will never buy another boat unless the dealer does the first 5-10 hrs in the tank talk about nisarable with a yammy 4 stroke the first 2 hrs not above like 2000rmp!!
My dealer did run ours for almost an hour to check out commission everything on the boat, check for leaks and make sure there were no issues with the engine.
I have a Yamaha 150 4 stroke.
I had to run her at different rpm's for 5 minutes each, for the first 10 hours. I made 2 different 5 hour trips to get it out of the way before fishing. I didn't want to have to worry about that while fishing.
According to the manual and the dealer, I had to run her at WFO for 5 minutes intervals.
I ran for 500, 1000, 1500, 2500, 3000, 3500, 4000, 4500, 5000, 5500 and 6000 for 5 minutes at a time. I would ramp her up 500 at a time, then ramp her down 500 at a time. The dealer checked on how long I ran at each RPM in the computer. He did gripe cause I only ran her at 6000 for like 2 minutes in stead of longer. I felt it was not good to run her that hard, new.
I could not run her at 2000 rmps. The boat was plowing and it felt like she was straining way too hard. Again, I didn't want to screw up my new motor too early.
After the 10 hr. break in, the dealer said I could run her how ever I wanted. It was under warranty. I didn't do anything to void it.
He gave me a print out of what they got out of the ECM too.

flounder_smacker 11-23-2009 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LaAngler (Post 80817)
I feel like deleting a few comments and getting to the bottom of this. IF you over REV a mercury opti over 5750 the warranty is VOID? Yet the Rev limiter is set at 6200??? Hmmmmmm

W get off your high horse, your boat handling skills dont match your claim :p I had to stop the boat twice pulling up to the dock instead of you bumping her into reverse.
its over a certian percentage of run time over 5750. say if you have 5 hours of run time at 6000 then they wont warranty a burnt power head.

Hopedale Hustler 11-23-2009 01:51 PM
man W that thing is fine....she hauls azz too

"W" 11-23-2009 05:20 PM
put about 4 hours run time today...... tomorrow after I catch my limit..... Im putting her to the test!! wide azz open!!! ........... shake N bake

fishinpox 11-23-2009 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray (Post 80841)
My dealer did run ours for almost an hour to check out commission everything on the boat, check for leaks and make sure there were no issues with the engine.
I have a Yamaha 150 4 stroke.
I had to run her at different rpm's for 5 minutes each, for the first 10 hours. I made 2 different 5 hour trips to get it out of the way before fishing. I didn't want to have to worry about that while fishing.
According to the manual and the dealer, I had to run her at WFO for 5 minutes intervals.
I ran for 500, 1000, 1500, 2500, 3000, 3500, 4000, 4500, 5000, 5500 and 6000 for 5 minutes at a time. I would ramp her up 500 at a time, then ramp her down 500 at a time. The dealer checked on how long I ran at each RPM in the computer. He did gripe cause I only ran her at 6000 for like 2 minutes in stead of longer. I felt it was not good to run her that hard, new.


I could not run her at 2000 rmps. The boat was plowing and it felt like she was straining way too hard. Again, I didn't want to screw up my new motor too early.
After the 10 hr. break in, the dealer said I could run her how ever I wanted. It was under warranty. I didn't do anything to void it.
He gave me a print out of what they got out of the ECM too.
i forget what i had to do to break mine in all i member is that it was a pain in the ace!! i think i do recall not being able to run it a any certian rpm for longer than 5 min.... it was so difficult for me not to run it wot!!!

ROOSTER 11-27-2009 06:15 PM
Nice boat.Little too deep for me.

mikedatiger 11-29-2009 12:13 PM
Hey "W" will he put a real motor on those things, like a Yammy or Suzuki? I went and looked at the Frontier and wasn't too impressed. If I pull the trigger it will be on a Haynie...

"W" 11-29-2009 12:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikethetiger55 (Post 83057)
Hey "W" will he put a real motor on those things, like a Yammy or Suzuki? I went and looked at the Frontier and wasn't too impressed. If I pull the trigger it will be on a Haynie...
He will put a Yammy on it for sure....Dont know about Suzuki but your best preformance will be with a Merc

MERCURY OUTBOARD MAN 11-30-2009 10:38 PM
very wrong
 
Your rev limiter is set @ 6200 and if you run that motor and hit the limiter they will not void your warranty.you know how many times merc wants the print out zero and thats coming from the bigest merc dealer in texas the rev limiter is to warn you and let you know your prop is worn are you have a prop issue that boat will top out right @5700 and thats perfect i can see why you dont work on motors anymore.tunnel boats hit there rev limiter 90 % of the time get the boat on plane.
Quote:
Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 80777)
not trying to knock your boat but obviously your to ignorant to see im trying to give you advice. READ on mercs website the link i posted im not lying. and this is coming from someone who has worked on outboards for 7 years including merc yamaha honda evinrude. you just upgraded and you are excited but im just trying to give you a little advice but go head and burn your motor up and be stuck with a 2000 bill to fix it tard. and next time you think you know more about running boats than i do think again cause i can tear that merc down and put it back together before you can say optimax.

mikedatiger 11-30-2009 10:42 PM
I hate you "W". All I can think about is that dang Haynie. Anybody want a NauticStar????

Big Flounder 11-30-2009 10:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikethetiger55 (Post 84048)
I hate you "W". All I can think about is that dang Haynie. Anybody want a NauticStar????
I got one already for another 5 years any way

jlincecum 11-30-2009 10:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikethetiger55 (Post 84048)
I hate you "W". All I can think about is that dang Haynie. Anybody want a NauticStar????
thats exactly what you need. with a big geaux outdoors decal down the side

huntin fool 11-30-2009 10:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MERCURY OUTBOARD MAN (Post 84043)
Your rev limiter is set @ 6200 and if you run that motor and hit the limiter they will not void your warranty.you know how many times merc wants the print out zero and thats coming from the bigest merc dealer in texas the rev limiter is to warn you and let you know your prop is worn are you have a prop issue that boat will top out right @5700 and thats perfect i can see why you dont work on motors anymore.tunnel boats hit there rev limiter 90 % of the time get the boat on plane.

Now when you say, that about tunnel boats...

Kinda like when the prop doesn't catch? And it basically Revs up big time?

Deadly D 11-30-2009 10:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by huntin fool (Post 84059)
Now when you say, that about tunnel boats...

Kinda like when the prop doesn't catch? And it basically Revs up big time?
Kinda like mine does all the time. Call it bypass

mikedatiger 11-30-2009 10:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlincecum (Post 84052)
thats exactly what you need. with a big geaux outdoors decal down the side
Don't encourage me - that's like throwing gasoline on the fire!!! Having said that, I am calling Chris tomorrow :p:p:p

jlincecum 11-30-2009 11:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikethetiger55 (Post 84070)
Don't encourage me - that's like throwing gasoline on the fire!!! Having said that, I am calling Chris tomorrow :p:p:p

you spot birds wat too easy to be fishin out of that slow NS!!!! need to be able to beat the yoyos to the set.:D

"W" 12-01-2009 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MERCURY OUTBOARD MAN (Post 84043)
Your rev limiter is set @ 6200 and if you run that motor and hit the limiter they will not void your warranty.you know how many times merc wants the print out zero and thats coming from the bigest merc dealer in texas the rev limiter is to warn you and let you know your prop is worn are you have a prop issue that boat will top out right @5700 and thats perfect i can see why you dont work on motors anymore.tunnel boats hit there rev limiter 90 % of the time get the boat on plane.



:*****::*****::*****: Tell em Chris...
All these drug store Wannabe Mechanics

flounder_smacker 12-01-2009 11:46 AM
lol you got the dude to come on here to back you up. what a putz. the dude just made money off you. you think hes going to say oh by the way...... just run your merc and when it blows then you can go back to blue. and the day you think you know more about boats than i do just remember you still have a 21 footer.

flounder_smacker 12-01-2009 11:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MERCURY OUTBOARD MAN (Post 84043)
Your rev limiter is set @ 6200 and if you run that motor and hit the limiter they will not void your warranty.you know how many times merc wants the print out zero and thats coming from the bigest merc dealer in texas the rev limiter is to warn you and let you know your prop is worn are you have a prop issue that boat will top out right @5700 and thats perfect i can see why you dont work on motors anymore.tunnel boats hit there rev limiter 90 % of the time get the boat on plane.
real classy. makes you look weak to talk trash to someone you dont even know because a lil man told you to. but hey business must be great!!

huntin fool 12-01-2009 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by "W" (Post 84266)
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:*****::*****::*****: Tell em Chris...
All these drug store Wannabe Mechanics

Your the one to talk...:rolleyes:

ROOSTER 12-02-2009 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 84292)
real classy. makes you look weak to talk trash to someone you dont even know because a lil man told you to. but hey business must be great!!
:*****:

mikedatiger 12-17-2009 12:15 PM
"W" do you have a CAD drawing or layout drawing for your boat that you can send me? I got the green light from Mrs. Claus and want to start working on design.

Cynoscion33 12-17-2009 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikethetiger55 (Post 92424)
"W" do you have a CAD drawing or layout drawing for your boat that you can send me? I got the green light from Mrs. Claus and want to start working on design.
http://www.saltycajun.com/forum/atta...1&d=1255638347

I think this is the CAD drawing he used.

jlincecum 12-17-2009 05:06 PM
that must must be CAD2.0. its the newest version

all star rod 12-17-2009 06:23 PM
No, CAD Release -2.0.....:*****:

Wag 12-17-2009 09:58 PM
looks like version Cad K1

MERCURY OUTBOARD MAN 12-20-2009 09:07 PM
It is real good and going to better when we open in lake charles in january maybe i will have the plesure of meeting you
Quote:
Originally Posted by flounder_smacker (Post 84292)
real classy. makes you look weak to talk trash to someone you dont even know because a lil man told you to. but hey business must be great!!

bay_slayer 12-20-2009 09:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MERCURY OUTBOARD MAN (Post 93425)
It is real good and going to better when we open in lake charles in january maybe i will have the plesure of meeting you
:eek:


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