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Finfeatherfur 03-31-2014 02:49 PM

Illegal Drug Sales
 
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Please use this tool to inform your kids as to another reason why it is not such a good idea to by drugs on the street!!! These people are only worried about making CASH and at $30/pill, they do not care about you. *MODS - please feel free to move to Gill Net if needed*

Yes- that is two bags of Roxy in his arse! and a dime bag of "dro".

fishfighter 03-31-2014 03:09 PM

aaahhh
 
what is seen can not be unseen, thanks fin, now i have to go and scratch my eyes out,


hahahaha, on another note, i thought them pills i took the other day tasted kind of Sh!#ty:rotfl::rotfl:


haha just joking that is nasty

Finfeatherfur 03-31-2014 03:16 PM

Yes it is! This stuff will never be shown in a DARE program, but if kids would see the "REAL" world, maybe they would think about this stuff.

mr crab 03-31-2014 03:26 PM

thats dirrrrrrrtttyyyy

Mako19 03-31-2014 03:26 PM

I have even heard that someone has gotten their hands on a press and is making fake Roxy.

Lord only knows what they are using to make the fake pills but like Fin said at $30-35/pill they are making a killing!

Whatever they use I doubt that it can be any more toxic than what the pharmacy's use to make the real pills.

"W" 03-31-2014 03:27 PM

Damn, I'm in wrong business

Finfeatherfur 03-31-2014 03:33 PM

Wait for it...............................................


With Medicaid, they are paying $2/pill! Now, don't you feel happy paying taxes today!

"W" 03-31-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 676667)
Wait for it...............................................


With Medicaid, they are paying $2/pill! Now, don't you feel happy paying taxes today!

When I got I'm my accident in 2005 they had to give my liquid pain meds because my jaw was wired shut

They gave me some liquid (don't know how to spell it but will try) deluded?

Dr said if a drug head. Knows you have that, they will tear your house down

Finfeatherfur 03-31-2014 03:38 PM

Dilaudid - synthetic morphine used in hospice care of cancer patients. Why do you think we have so many breakins for hsopice patients - and it is usually a family member that knows where it is kept.

"W" 03-31-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 676670)
Dilaudid - synthetic morphine used in hospice care of cancer patients. Why do you think we have so many breakins for hsopice patients - and it is usually a family member that knows where it is kept.

That is some bad stuff!! One drop of that and boom just lay back

Reggoh 03-31-2014 04:59 PM

"ROXY" and "DRO" don't really mean anything to me...
BUTT (no pun intended) that is a nice stack of Jacksons and Benjamins!!

Clampy 03-31-2014 05:10 PM

" Dro" slang for hydroponically grown weed.
No different than any other weed just grown in water and is typically taken good care of while it is grown unlike Mexican weed which is grown in huge fields and not taken care of and allowed to cross pollinate.
#themoreyouknow




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Mako19 03-31-2014 05:53 PM

"Roxy" slang for a very powerful opiat Roxycontin.
Took the place of oxycontin.

Most addictive drug on the market right now and the Doctors and Pharmacys just keep pumping them out knowing damn well there is no way that the amount they are prescribing and manufacturing are necessary!

Clampy 03-31-2014 06:02 PM

There is no "most addictive drug"
People get prescribed it and don't get hooked all though some of them do. There is no drug where you do it once and you are a junkie.
Unless you ask math geek and he will tell you it's obviously weed and dro is genetically modified weed with 160% THC and will make you see aliens and register as a democrat.


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Goooh 03-31-2014 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 676694)
"Roxy" slang for a very powerful opiat Roxycontin.
Took the place of oxycontin.

Most addictive drug on the market right now and the Doctors and Pharmacys just keep pumping them out knowing damn well there is no way that the amount they are prescribing and manufacturing are necessary!


Just ask Rush Limbaugh, he liked some oxy. Taking gorilla doses of basically heroin in a pill

Mako19 03-31-2014 06:30 PM

Haha! Yea, that dro is bad stuff!

I gotta disagree with you here.
I used to hang out with a lot of people who used pain killers for recreational use for 5-10 years and kept their life together.

It wasn't until Roxy's became popular that those same friends started getting strung out, lost their jobs, and end up in rehab.

I can't say exactly what it is but something about Roxy makes it wayyy worse than all of the traditional opiates such as Lortab, percasets, ect...

Clampy 03-31-2014 06:34 PM

Rush was on huge doses of opiates and did his job perfectly for years on herion every single day kinda breaks the stereotypical drug user mold. A great % of drug users use on weekends and some every day and do no harm to anyone pay taxes and have jobs.
Criminals :( ?


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Clampy 03-31-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako19 (Post 676700)
Haha! Yea, that dro is bad stuff!

I gotta disagree with you here.
I used to hang out with a lot of people who used pain killers for recreational use for 5-10 years and kept their life together.

It wasn't until Roxy's became popular that those same friends started getting strung out, lost their jobs, and end up in rehab.

I can't say exactly what it is but something about Roxy makes it wayyy worse than all of the traditional opiates such as Lortab, percasets, ect...


Listen to what you are saying.
They did opiates ( I'm assuming LTs ) for 5-10 years ( implying tolerance)
So once they stepped up the dose they became losers.
That's just the ebb and flow of addiction

Ex. I drank beer for 10 years and then started with jack and lost my job cuz I kept showing up late and I don't care anymore so I'm gonna get hammered everyday.

Same loser different drugs.


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Clampy 03-31-2014 06:42 PM

But I agree roxys are a problem. They are just smaller cheaper OCs so that is the problem when they didn't have to pay 80$-100$ a pill for OCs they got access to 15$ small ones they bought more and used more.
And I'm sure we know a lot of the same people this happened to.


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Mako19 03-31-2014 06:43 PM

Good point.
I definitely see what you are saying.

grizzon30s 03-31-2014 06:51 PM

Maybe if we would legalize weed...we would stop pushing people into the criminal element where lots of these other drugs are available.
Poison like roxy, oc's...really any opiates are readily available at these pain management clinics. They are hooking thousands of people on what equates to heroin and not thinking twice. The painkiller epidemic is just that, an epidemic. It's unbelievable that we continue to imprison people for pot yet we let these doctors slang synthetic heroin while making millions.

Clampy 03-31-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by grizzon30s (Post 676712)
Maybe if we would legalize weed...we would stop pushing people into the criminal element where lots of these other drugs are available.
Poison like roxy, oc's...really any opiates are readily available at these pain management clinics. They are hooking thousands of people on what equates to heroin and not thinking twice. The painkiller epidemic is just that, an epidemic. It's unbelievable that we continue to imprison people for pot yet we let these doctors slang synthetic heroin while making millions.


Work


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Goooh 03-31-2014 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grizzon30s (Post 676712)
Maybe if we would legalize weed...we would stop pushing people into the criminal element where lots of these other drugs are available.
Poison like roxy, oc's...really any opiates are readily available at these pain management clinics. They are hooking thousands of people on what equates to heroin and not thinking twice. The painkiller epidemic is just that, an epidemic. It's unbelievable that we continue to imprison people for pot yet we let these doctors slang synthetic heroin while making millions.


Logic is not welcome here

Montauk17 03-31-2014 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grizzon30s (Post 676712)
Maybe if we would legalize weed...we would stop pushing people into the criminal element where lots of these other drugs are available.
Poison like roxy, oc's...really any opiates are readily available at these pain management clinics. They are hooking thousands of people on what equates to heroin and not thinking twice. The painkiller epidemic is just that, an epidemic. It's unbelievable that we continue to imprison people for pot yet we let these doctors slang synthetic heroin while making millions.

:work:

Clampy 03-31-2014 07:04 PM

Saying someone ingesting a substance is a criminal act is ridiculous. Selling to kids yes. Execute them. I don't care.
If you look at it as there is no good or bad substance ( which the are not ) substances can't be good or bad they just are.
If you look at it that way police action on drug offenders is essentially a tax evasion offense.


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Mako19 03-31-2014 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grizzon30s (Post 676712)
The painkiller epidemic is just that, an epidemic. It's unbelievable that we continue to imprison people for pot yet we let these doctors slang synthetic heroin while making millions.

X 100000!!!

I don't know how those Dr.s sleep at night.

BassYakR 03-31-2014 07:08 PM

Very well in their million dollar houses I'd guess. Lol

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Clampy 03-31-2014 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BassYakR (Post 676722)
Very well in their million dollar houses I'd guess. Lol

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On ambien duh ;)


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SULPHITE 03-31-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clampy (Post 676719)
Saying someone ingesting a substance is a criminal act is ridiculous. Selling to kids yes. Execute them. I don't care.
If you look at it as there is no good or bad substance ( which the are not ) substances can't be good or bad they just are.
If you look at it that way police action on drug offenders is essentially a tax evasion offense.


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Clampy 03-31-2014 07:21 PM

Nice


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Ilovestohunt 03-31-2014 07:28 PM

This is all good conversation and all,but I can't get the pic of that dudes A&& off memory card,who had to reach down and dig the stuff out? They need a raise or a new job ASAP!

Clampy 03-31-2014 07:32 PM

Well if possessing a substance wasn't a crime he wouldn't have to put em there.


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Clampy 03-31-2014 07:33 PM

I only really speak for the herb diversion if prescription pills is a problem.


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Top Dawg 03-31-2014 08:30 PM

Wonder how much of that money was stolen out of my truck

southern151 03-31-2014 08:49 PM

$3560 in cash, if my counting is correct. I'm sure his 9-5 job paid that!

Sadly, he'll post bail and, be after it tomorrow morning, again.

Salty 04-01-2014 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grizzon30s (Post 676712)
Maybe if we would legalize weed...we would stop pushing people into the criminal element where lots of these other drugs are available.
Poison like roxy, oc's...really any opiates are readily available at these pain management clinics. They are hooking thousands of people on what equates to heroin and not thinking twice. The painkiller epidemic is just that, an epidemic. It's unbelievable that we continue to imprison people for pot yet we let these doctors slang synthetic heroin while making millions.

Pain management clinics aren't like they used to be. The FDA and FBI has shut down a vast percentage of the "shady" ones....the ones that you walked into with a handful of cash and come out with a handful of prescriptions. You don't do that anymore. I am a pain management patient at The Spine Center in Covington, LA (Dr. Scott Sondes). I'm not familiar with others, but, this one is legit. You don't become a patient without an MRI showing that you are truly in need of their services and MRI's are updated every 9-12 months to note any changes. Every visit begins with a drug test. I see the doctor every 8 weeks and anytime within that span I can be ordered to the office up to 3 times for a random drug screen.....that day. If any substance, including alcohol, is found in your system other than what is prescribed by Dr. Sondes.....you are toast!!! One chance....that's it!!! You are immediately dismissed and referred to drug rehab. I'm sure there are still some out there that don't play by the rules. There used to be several in this area of the state, but, like I said...they're gone. I understand your point and I agree totally, but, just know that there are legit ones that take a patient's well-being into consideration and are not just there to make a quick buck.

grizzon30s 04-01-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 676840)
Pain management clinics aren't like they used to be. The FDA and FBI has shut down a vast percentage of the "shady" ones....the ones that you walked into with a handful of cash and come out with a handful of prescriptions. You don't do that anymore. I am a pain management patient at The Spine Center in Covington, LA (Dr. Scott Sondes). I'm not familiar with others, but, this one is legit. You don't become a patient without an MRI showing that you are truly in need of their services and MRI's are updated every 9-12 months to note any changes. Every visit begins with a drug test. I see the doctor every 8 weeks and anytime within that span I can be ordered to the office up to 3 times for a random drug screen.....that day. If any substance, including alcohol, is found in your system other than what is prescribed by Dr. Sondes.....you are toast!!! One chance....that's it!!! You are immediately dismissed and referred to drug rehab. I'm sure there are still some out there that don't play by the rules. There used to be several in this area of the state, but, like I said...they're gone. I understand your point and I agree totally, but, just know that there are legit ones that take a patient's well-being into consideration and are not just there to make a quick buck.

This is how they should be run. Fact is, many of them are not.

Finfeatherfur 04-01-2014 09:49 AM

Salty- You need to come spend a day with me if you think pain management clinics are legit. Yours might well be, but I have set in the parking lot of some for 3 hours where 98% of the plates on vehicles had drug distribution histories. Watched a van of 7 people go to one, and in 22 minutes all 7 come out with scripts. Then after all 1120 Roxies were filled, they poured them into a gallon zip-loc bag and delivered them to our UC at $18/pill. If you think DEA and FBI are shutting them down, you are sadly mistaken. As soon as one doctor is revoked, his buddy takes up the slack.

Finfeatherfur 04-01-2014 09:56 AM

Clampy - if you think "Dro" and "weed" are the same you have been smoking it entirely too long!!!!! Hyrdoponic marijuana is much stronger that field grown weed and the THC will impair someone to a greater degree than regular weed. To the point they are a danger to themselves and those around them. It is the same as a college student drinking beer to get drunk one night - then going out and slamming shots of Patron. The level of impairment is different and faster.

I use this saying to people all the time - in the thousands of patients I have transported over the years, hundreds and hundreds of those were overdoses. Of those hundreds of overdoses, do you know how many were OD's of weed...........NONE, not a D$mn one of them - why, because you can't.

It will be - and needs to be legal. Not sure why it still isn't. - Even the DA's are for it. Problem is just like alcohol in prohibition - "how to make it legal" is the problem.

Salty 04-01-2014 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 676894)
Salty- You need to come spend a day with me if you think pain management clinics are legit. Yours might well be, but I have set in the parking lot of some for 3 hours where 98% of the plates on vehicles had drug distribution histories. Watched a van of 7 people go to one, and in 22 minutes all 7 come out with scripts. Then after all 1120 Roxies were filled, they poured them into a gallon zip-loc bag and delivered them to our UC at $18/pill. If you think DEA and FBI are shutting them down, you are sadly mistaken. As soon as one doctor is revoked, his buddy takes up the slack.

I said in this area.....meaning Washington/St. Tammany Parishes.

I think it's unfair to the people abiding by the law to lump all these establishments into one group, but, I guess one bad apple does spoil the whole bunch. I listed some of the requirements that are set by the legit ones and there's no way around 'em. If I were to go to the ER today, get a "script" for any type of pain med and get it filled......I'd be automatically dismissed from pain management before the sun went down. That's the way it ought to be.

Finfeatherfur 04-01-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 676897)
I said in this area.....meaning Washington/St. Tammany Parishes.

I think it's unfair to the people abiding by the law to lump all these establishments into one group, but, I guess one bad apple does spoil the whole bunch. I listed some of the requirements that are set by the legit ones and there's no way around 'em. If I were to go to the ER today, get a "script" for any type of pain med and get it filled......I'd be automatically dismissed from pain management before the sun went down. That's the way it ought to be.

I understand completely and was in no way coming down on you, or your clinic old friend. Just wanted to show the contrast of what I see. Unfortunately, we have a couple of big chain pharmacies that refuse to report to the system tracking narcotic Rx scripts as required, thus making it impossible to stop the abuse.

Clampy 04-01-2014 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 676895)
Clampy - if you think "Dro" and "weed" are the same you have been smoking it entirely too long!!!!! Hyrdoponic marijuana is much stronger that field grown weed and the THC will impair someone to a greater degree than regular weed. To the point they are a danger to themselves and those around them. It is the same as a college student drinking beer to get drunk one night - then going out and slamming shots of Patron. The level of impairment is different and faster.

I use this saying to people all the time - in the thousands of patients I have transported over the years, hundreds and hundreds of those were overdoses. Of those hundreds of overdoses, do you know how many were OD's of weed...........NONE, not a D$mn one of them - why, because you can't.

It will be - and needs to be legal. Not sure why it still isn't. - Even the DA's are for it. Problem is just like alcohol in prohibition - "how to make it legal" is the problem.


Look. Weed is weed there are 3 types
Cannabis Sativa
Cannabis Indica
Cannabis ruderalis

You can give people 3 seeds of same plant to 3 people one might be crap one might be ok one might awesome.
It all on how you grow and care for it.
It's not like this is dro seed and this is regular

Ditch weed is low in THC because it's not cared for well and is mass produced for big profit.
High THC means I take one hit instead of a blunt.
Dro is not a type of weed it's a growing technique.
It just became what the streets called good weed. It's marketing.


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MathGeek 04-01-2014 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 676894)
Salty- You need to come spend a day with me if you think pain management clinics are legit. Yours might well be, but I have set in the parking lot of some for 3 hours where 98% of the plates on vehicles had drug distribution histories. Watched a van of 7 people go to one, and in 22 minutes all 7 come out with scripts. Then after all 1120 Roxies were filled, they poured them into a gallon zip-loc bag and delivered them to our UC at $18/pill. If you think DEA and FBI are shutting them down, you are sadly mistaken. As soon as one doctor is revoked, his buddy takes up the slack.

Keep up the good work!

skeeter10 04-01-2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salty (Post 676840)
Pain management clinics aren't like they used to be. The FDA and FBI has shut down a vast percentage of the "shady" ones....the ones that you walked into with a handful of cash and come out with a handful of prescriptions. You don't do that anymore. I am a pain management patient at The Spine Center in Covington, LA (Dr. Scott Sondes). I'm not familiar with others, but, this one is legit. You don't become a patient without an MRI showing that you are truly in need of their services and MRI's are updated every 9-12 months to note any changes. Every visit begins with a drug test. I see the doctor every 8 weeks and anytime within that span I can be ordered to the office up to 3 times for a random drug screen.....that day. If any substance, including alcohol, is found in your system other than what is prescribed by Dr. Sondes.....you are toast!!! One chance....that's it!!! You are immediately dismissed and referred to drug rehab. I'm sure there are still some out there that don't play by the rules. There used to be several in this area of the state, but, like I said...they're gone. I understand your point and I agree totally, but, just know that there are legit ones that take a patient's well-being into consideration and are not just there to make a quick buck.

This is absolutely correct. My wife worked in one for a while and this is exactly how it was run. Not the same clinic as the one mentioned above but they had the same policies. Just like everything else there are some doctor's who choose not to play by the rules, but with the way pain management clinics are being targeted I believe the vast majority now color inside the lines.

Finfeatherfur 04-01-2014 11:05 AM

"Dro" is not pollenated nor grown with natural light - it is not the same!! It is genetically better than field weed and this will be a short argument. Yes, the growing technique causes the difference, that fact I will concide - but it is not the "same weed". If it was the same, the THC would be the same.

It's like saying a cow from the feed lot in Kansas will taste the same when butchered as a cow from an all natural farm in salt grass with no hormones. They are both beef, but the end result is scientifically different...........because of the way it was grown.

Finfeatherfur 04-01-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skeeter10 (Post 676905)
This is absolutely correct. My wife worked in one for a while and this is exactly how it was run. Not the same clinic as the one mentioned above but they had the same policies. Just like everything else there are some doctor's who choose not to play by the rules, but with the way pain management clinics are being targeted I believe the vast majority now color inside the lines.

^^^^EXACTLY^^^^

Salty 04-01-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 676902)
I understand completely and was in no way coming down on you, or your clinic old friend. Just wanted to show the contrast of what I see. Unfortunately, we have a couple of big chain pharmacies that refuse to report to the system tracking narcotic Rx scripts as required, thus making it impossible to stop the abuse.

Bryan, a few years ago (5-6), this area was overrun with this kinda stuff. I remember one place in particular right here in Bogalusa. I'd be headed to work at 6-6:30 in the morning and people would be lined up at this one door. I thought it was a food stamp office or the like. Turned out it was a pain clinic. Back then they were not called "pain management" because they provided no such service. There were a couple more here, but, they've all been dismantled. There are no "pain management" clinics...to my knowledge.

One other thing about the legit clinics.....most of them don't even accept cash/checks. If you were paying your own way (w/o insurance), I don't know how they do that, or, if they even do. I know mine doesn't.

This is not an attempt of mine to justify the fact that I take pain meds (almost) daily. Millions of people suffer from chronic back pain and, for them, pain management is (almost) a must. It's intended to help the patients cope with their pain...not to gain a continuous "buzz". :smokin:

skeeter10 04-01-2014 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 676907)
^^^^EXACTLY^^^^

Keep up the good work Finfeatherfur! I come from a family of doctors and I hate when a few unethical physicians give a bad name to the profession. Thanks for your hard work!

Clampy 04-01-2014 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finfeatherfur (Post 676906)
"Dro" is not pollenated nor grown with natural light - it is not the same!! It is genetically better than field weed and this will be a short argument. Yes, the growing technique causes the difference, that fact I will concide - but it is not the "same weed". If it was the same, the THC would be the same.

It's like saying a cow from the feed lot in Kansas will taste the same when butchered as a cow from an all natural farm in salt grass with no hormones. They are both beef, but the end result is scientifically different...........because of the way it was grown.


No no no.

The fact that it is grown better makes THC stronger.

Look when you keep a female plant away from males ( unlike Mexican field weed where they don't remove the males ) it makes more THC which is the resin which grabs onto male pollen. So in absence of males the plant thinks if it makes more THC it will get pollen that it is missing out on.
What would you call indoor grown cannabis in pots under a 1000 HPS light ?
I call that good weed. It's not grown hydroponically so it isn't dro.
The controlled environment is what makes the best or highest THC content plant.
Like I said " hypothetically" give me and you the same seed. I plant indoor and take care of it I might get THC in the 20 percentile. You grow outside and hardly water and not care for it your plant will be 5 percentile.
This is all 100% fact. Please look it up and quit making me pull over.



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Goooh 04-01-2014 11:39 AM

Good stuff


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